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Harry at war



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Prince Harry at war: An interview with the Prince as he carries out his day to day duties in Helmand province, Afghanistan
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Published Date: 29 February 2008
Read a full interview with Harry here

THE Ministry of Defence was considering last night whether to pull Prince Harry out of Afghanistan after news that he has been fighting the Taleban for the past ten weeks appeared on a website.
The revelation immediately sparked fears that Harry, nicknamed "the bullet magnet" by fellow soldiers, would be targeted by Taleban forces in the war-ravaged Helmand province, where he has been based.

The deployment had been cloaked in secrecy under a news black-out deal agreed across UK and selected international media to prevent details reaching enemy troops and endangering the prince – third in line to the throne – and his comrades.

But news of the deployment appeared yesterday on a well-known US website, the Drudge Report. Bizarrely, however, it has emerged that the Australian women's magazine New Idea actually broke the story on 15 January. It was subsequently reported in a German women's magazine, Frau im Spiegel, and picked up by the Germany daily newspaper Bild before it appeared on Drudge.

As part of the secrecy deal, a group of journalists visited the prince in Helmand on condition details would be published only once he was safely back in the UK. The deal was arranged after Harry's planned tour of duty to Iraq last year had to be cancelled after publicity created a security risk.

Sir Richard Dannatt, Chief of the General Staff and head of the army, said: "I am very disappointed that foreign websites have decided to run this story without consulting us.

"This is in stark contrast to the highly responsible attitude of the whole of the UK print and broadcast media, along with a small number overseas, who entered into an understanding with us over the coverage of Prince Harry on operations.

"After a lengthy period of discussion between the MoD and the editors of regional, national and international media, the editors took the commendable attitude to restrain their coverage. I would like to thank them for that, and I do appreciate that once the story was in the public domain they had no choice but to follow suit."

Defending the decision to send the prince to Afghanistan in the first place, Gen Dannatt said the past two months had shown it was "perfectly possible" for Harry to be employed just the same as other army officers of his rank and experience.

"His conduct on operations in Afghanistan has been exemplary. He has been fully involved in operations and has run the same risks as everyone else in his battlegroup," the general said.

"In common with all of his generation in the army today, he is a credit to the nation.

"In deciding to deploy him to Afghanistan, it was my judgment that, with an understanding with the media not to broadcast his whereabouts, the risk in doing so was manageable. Now the story is in the public domain, the Chief of Defence Staff and I will take advice from operational commanders about whether his deployment can continue."

He also appealed to the media not to report Prince Harry's "every move".

Speaking before his deployment was revealed, Harry said he could be a "top target" for terrorists in the UK after fighting the Taleban in Afghanistan. "Once this… comes out, every single person that supports them will be trying to slot me," he said. "Now that you come to think about it, it's quite worrying."

After the disappointment over Iraq, when Harry was prevented from serving as a Scimitar light tank troop leader, he retrained as a battlefield air con-troller, known as a joint terminal attack controller (JTAC), with a view to going to Afghanistan. He flew out on 14 December, two months into 52 Brigade's current winter tour.

He spent several weeks in Garmsir, in the far south of Helmand, only 500 metres from front-line Taleban positions.

Harry was part of a two-man tactical air control party, working with Corporal of Horse David Baxter, from Coleraine, Northern Ireland. The pair's role was to liaise with artillery and mortar teams to co-ordinate fire on the Taleban under the command of battery commander Major Andrew Dimmock.

Before any air strike on the Taleban, targets had to be positively identified – meaning the prince and senior officers above him had to be satisfied not only that they were enemy fighters being targeted, but that they presented a clear threat.

The process involved carrying out regular "pattern of life" studies of areas under enemy control – both to ensure there was no risk to civilians and to build up a picture of Taleban movements.

He has since left Garmsir to work in another part of Helmand, details of which cannot be reported for security reasons.

The prince had been due to complete a four-month tour without the standard two-week R&R break other soldiers enjoy.

There was no steer last night from the MoD on the future of his deployment. A spokesman said: "The operational chain of command is now looking at a variety of options."

The prince admitted just last week, in a media interview due to be reported on his safe return, that he could be a target for Taleban-supporting extremists in the UK on his return.

"Once this film comes out, there'll probably be every single person, every single person that supports them, will be trying to slot me," he said.

"Now that you come to think about it, it's quite worrying."

He added: "I think there's a lot of guys here who hopefully won't be targeted, but, as I say, now that this film has been made and now… people will know I'm out here, no doubt I'll be a top target."

Gordon Brown, the Prime Minister, said Prince Harry has been an "exemplary" soldier, adding: "The whole of Britain will be proud of the outstanding service he is giving."

There were also tributes to Harry from the other political parties. David Cameron, the Conservative leader, said: "Like all the troops currently fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, Harry has been incredibly brave. He has pursued his desire to get on the front line and serve his country with huge determination and courage."

He added: "I applaud the British press for not breaking the story and risking his life and others around him."

FEAR DIVIDES THE COUNTRY

WHILE Prince Harry has been in action in the front line against the Taleban, it's been claimed military action has failed to unite the region.

On Wednesday, the US Director of National Intelligence, Michael McConnell, informed the Senate Armed Services Committee that the government of Afghan President Hamid Karzai controls just under one-third of the country.

He said that most of Afghanistan is under local tribal control, the rest under Taleban rule.


The full article contains 1133 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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1

AJ fae Fife,

29/02/2008 00:29:20
After being fed the latest contrived p*sh from the BBC, I have my doubts on the authenticity of the story. Harry might believe he's been doing a job of work, but it all looks suspiciously orchestrated for the media by the government. Using the Royal Family in this way is no new tactic, but the general public are a bit more sophisticated than Westminster give them credit for. The blue rinsed, shortbread eating Royal fanclub are either senile or deid and the rest of us, won't swallow this latest sugary sweet hero b*llocks!

Such is my scepticism, it wouldn't surprise me if the whole thing was filmed in Morocco!

Some time in the future, Harry will wake up and realise how he's been used by an evil and morally corrupt government! He may, however, already realise it!
2

J J MAROONER,

Ex WO1 29/02/2008 00:29:59
Was bored to death listening to Sky slavering over this earlier this evening, fair play to him though.

Sky made much of the fact that his Uncle Andrew and his Grandfather both saw active service, they forgot to mention Captain Mark Philips who was excused going to Northern Ireland, rumour in the Army was it was done saw he could compete in some posh horsey event, they then wanted us all to contribute toward a wedding present for them. Any oldish Soldiers remember that?
3

J J MAROONER,

29/02/2008 00:31:38
1#

Good morning AJ.
4

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29/02/2008 00:33:39
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Jock MacSprog,

29/02/2008 00:35:06
your a bunch of bitter little lefties arent you ? Obviously none of those above ever risked their skin for anything.
6

J J MAROONER,

KIRKCALDY 29/02/2008 00:38:00
5#

I did.
7

AJ fae Fife,

29/02/2008 00:49:21
Morning Warrant Office JJ,

It's actually jist aboot beddybys time, but I thought it important to make the cyber public aware, and get a post in early!
8

J J MAROONER,

Ex WO1 29/02/2008 00:57:25
#9

No he is not - he is just a f***** idiot.
9

J J MAROONER,

Ex WO1 29/02/2008 01:13:23
Harry is what we use to call an FAC - hope he is using the coloured side of the map - always worth checking with junior Subalterns.
10

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29/02/2008 01:28:43
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J J MAROONER,

29/02/2008 01:30:22
#12

Priceless!
12

subrosa,

29/02/2008 02:00:24
Now this is in the media, bring this young man back here to his true lifestyle. The BBC have been with him out there I understand making a documentary. He has also had bodyguards 24 hours a day.

Bring him back right now. His presence there is a complete and utter liability to the life of my son and his men along with the rest of the military in operations there.
13

indune1,

Canada 29/02/2008 02:14:19
4 - Once again you demonstrate your gutless, myopic idiocy.

To wish the death of a person who has not caused nor called for the death of another, clearly demonstrates how shallow a human being you are.

Whether you are a traitor is debatable to some. But you sir, do your cause no honour or service. You are a petty, myopic waste of rations.

In my day, you wouldn't qualify as a barrack-room lawyer - the type we always ran into. No, you are the type when challenged would try to talk himself out of the situation or deny the views expressed.

You are a disgusting coward. A 40-mile sniper. Stay downwind from the human race for you are not part of it.
14

Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 29/02/2008 02:35:19
Behold the future King of Scotland. When he was out in Alberta training at Suffield his raid on Cowboys did us proud.
The lad's got an eye for the pneumatic breast. Those rapacious Calgary shooter girls were clearly good training for the Taliban.
Up the Stewarts. He is a Stewart, isn't he?
15

indune1,

Canada 29/02/2008 02:49:45

So, black-hatter (aka zipper-head): did any of his shenanigans betray the everyday desires of the average soldier?

So often we hear the Royals are divorced from "normal" society - whatever that is - and the first sign that that the Princes are are full-blooded and normal - then we get your perverse doggerel.

Good thing you are a former Strath and probably not a former "Royal Canadian".
16

Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 29/02/2008 03:00:45
I meant all this to be a complement. I think Harry is doing a great job. Just for the record, I'm not a Strath. I live there. Whyte Avenue, the Strathcona Hotel, the Black Dog, Go Oilers Go. The Lord Strathcona Horse is the finest horse regiment in the world. Although I have a buddy who is a major in the South Alberta Light Horse. Who might disagree.
17

Dboy,

Japan 29/02/2008 03:13:14
#15 'To wish the death of a person who has not caused nor called for the death of another, clearly demonstrates how shallow a human being you are.'

So he won't be shooting at anyone while on the front line then? While I don't wish the lad any harm while he is out there, the irony of such a high profile figure being injured or killed would go a long way to making the public realise that the 'war on terror' is a huge sham.
The Afghanis do not want foreign soldiers in their country and have been trying to kick them out for around two hundred years. What makes you think that we will have any more success than the last lot?
This recent excursion into the region is another folly and the sooner we all realise this the better for everyone involved.
18

williamx,

Canada 29/02/2008 03:33:50
Who gives a damn. At any rate, if he is out there and stops one at least it is not a Scot who has departed early. Other than that, who other than the Monarchist League and the BBC gives a damn.
19

W Smith,

Middle East 29/02/2008 05:11:14
Only three nations 'recognised' the Taleban:

1) Pakistan

2) United Arab Emirates (which includes Dubai)

3) Saudi Arabia

The view held by these nations is that the Taleban government was 'legal'.

It also meant that drug money could be laundered in banks of those nations that 'recognised' the Taleban government.

It also meant weapons could be legally shipped throught these countries to Afghanistan.

That kind of puts the SNP's Osama Saeeds view into perspective when he says the war in Afghanistan is 'illegal'.

Now we know what this little numpty calls 'legal' and 'illegal' he should consider himself fortunate not to be booted out of the UK.

Bottom line is Prince Harry isnn't upsetting Scots like myself and for those of you who think that the invasion of Afhganistan is 'illegal' kindly stop expressing your views as if you're speaking on behalf of all Scots - because you'r not!

The British Army did a good job in the Malayan Emergency and the Korean War and now they're doing a great job fighting the so-called 'legal' Taleban.

Get right in a about them Harry!

BTW
So Moira Salmond would have a better lifestyle in Afghanistan living under the Taleban than if she stays in Scotland under Westminster rule then, eh Alex?

Absolute bull****!
20

Black & White Triumph,

Greenhill Road.....soon 29/02/2008 05:21:18
He's a serving soldier, but he is high profile, on balnce if he is endangering those around more than they normally would be in the circumstances then he should be brought out.
21

dave A,

nz 29/02/2008 05:44:05
A taliban slotter' I love it.In an earlier life I had to do the same job.
22

MR.CYNICAL,

a happy place 29/02/2008 06:06:50
harry should get an oscar for pretending to be in the army
23

Cappo Del Monte,

29/02/2008 06:18:16
I dont know whats worse, the inane comment like #4
Or people biting to the clowns comments.
As for the article, well done Harry
And its good to see you can trust the yanks to put peoples lives at risk by breaking stories like this.
Its little wonder with blue on blue and killing innocents and putting other peoples lives at risk, the world luves u ( NOT )
24

NemarketNDPer,

Taipei, Taiwan 29/02/2008 06:49:52
Had Diana lived she would never have allowed Harry-the-Brat to become such a baby killer. I was never anti-Royal until they began supporting this evil bloody crusade.

Meanwhile, shame on you Harry. Think what your mom would have wanted.
25

paul o,

Wodonga 29/02/2008 06:55:21
I'm not suprised that the story originally appeared in an Australian publication. Ever since the Indonesians shot five Australian journalists in Timor during the 70's all Aust media sources have been virilantly anti-military (any nation) and seem to take perverse joy in undermining the Defence Forces at every opportunity.
If the five unfortunates killed in Timor in the 70's were a couple of plumbers and three carpenters on humantaniarian service they would have been forgotten about in less than a week. Being 'journalists', the news "media" have never forgotten and take every opportunity to deride the Defence Forces (any nation) that help ensure they can 'file a story'.
26

cleaning the bathroom,

in bed with cold 29/02/2008 07:12:38
A royal member of the family actually doing his duty and protecting his mates? - good on him!! we watch them all the time in the media ( reluctantly) so hats off to Harry for looking after him - Get behind the lad - well done.
27

TREV,

Poland 29/02/2008 07:33:04
Typical, some hack with a desire to break the story does so without considering the lives of the ordinary soldiers who'll now be targetted. I wonder if they'd have behaved differently if it was US soldiers in the firing line.
28

DGR,

Coolangatta 29/02/2008 07:42:28
Bin Ladin's chief information provider, Richard Murdoch, certainly let him down
29

Gordon A.,

Vancouver, BC 29/02/2008 07:43:47
Time to bring the young Prince Home and
for #4 I guess Edinburgh has some form of parasite with the likes of you.
You probably are the most pathetic breath of foul hot air in all of Scotland. Do us all a favor and don't ever travel out of your ghetto.
30

steve 1511,

aberdeen 29/02/2008 07:51:01
harry gets more coverage playing at soldiers by the bbc sky etc in one day,than the thousands of brave men who fight on a daily basis get in a month,good job the there was a gurkha present to advice him on how to aim a heavy machine gun
31

Trade-wind,

USA 29/02/2008 07:59:09
Sound as if some have it right, while others are more romantic about the lad. All the military has to do is not advertise him. Put him in a uniform and ship him out to hinterland. Don't take pictures, don't make a fuss, just go about business as you would if it were anybody else. How is it that anybody would know where one lone soldier was. Hell you could lose anybody in the military, but no it seem to many besides his mate's and his commander knows his whereabouts. Easy to get him out when it gets to hot.
32

danielrober,

29/02/2008 08:00:39
I'm glad this young man had a chance to fullfill his training and serve with his 'mates'. It was a cruel act to train any young man for this type of profession and then say no you can't go, but y palls can.

I'm glad he had his chance.
33

Silence of the Yams,

29/02/2008 08:07:10
Get right into those terrorist ragheads my son!
34

Gusto,

29/02/2008 08:12:26
No matter how you twist this, or slaver over it, or whatever you do with it, he is a prince, and always will be - he will never be an enlisted soldier - he will always be protected. No harm will come to this "soldier", except perhaps by accident.
He got what he wanted - he's living his dream - let him sleep.
35

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 29/02/2008 08:13:50
#4 is well out-of-step (as usual). Sometimes we are too tolerant and allow such vile to be spewed by persons clearly in need of psychological care. Just how PH is responsible for the morals and beliefs of his ancestors, or for his genetic make up, is not explained by #4.

Afghanistan and Iraq are wars too far, but brave people fight there on both sides. Much better if such things didn't happen. That doesn't demean our soldiers, or theirs.
36

voltaire's janny,

29/02/2008 08:28:17
Not only a Stewart but the great, great, great....x27 grandson of Robert the Bruce. Ginger will out.

But seriously. You either want monarchy or not. If you want it then all the sycophancy and toadying go hand in hand. If you want it abolished then campaign & vote. Either camp should allow Harry to soldier as appears to be his calling. He didn't choose to be conceived in the most famous womb in history, whether by Chazz or not. Good luck son, but you'd better get a cyanide pill in case of capture, otherwise you'll be getting your head hewn off on t'internet.

Despite the fair play argument and 10 weeks of deployment, I am a bit dubious that the Government and the fourh estate can collude so successfully for so long. Even breaking the news yesterday prompts one to wonder what is being hidden behind the hotspur story.
37

Geoff,

sa 29/02/2008 08:30:56
26 and 38-both fair comment. No matter whether one is a monarchist or not, he is a British soldier worthy of our support. As to his special protection, well the son of a President would probably get the same-covert or overt. Whether these wars are justified-that is for another forum.
38

somerferg,

oz 29/02/2008 08:33:28

Oh goodness it would bring a tear to a glass eye thinking about that poor wee lad all alone fighting (and no doubt) beating the Taliban single handedly. All said to the strains of "Rule Brittania" no doubt
39

Kate,

Zurich 29/02/2008 08:38:43
Brilliant and brave of Prince Harry to follow his duty and take a posting to Afghanistan. It was super that the British and "selected" foreign press kept quiet about it.

Did the Australian, German and American tabloids stop to consider the consequences of their actions when they broke the very honourable and praiseworthy silence? No, they most certainly did not and now, not only is Prince Harry in more danger but also all the soldiers and civilians in Afghanistan, with whom he comes into contac.

SHAME ON THE STUPID ATTENTION SEEKING FOREIGN PRESS FOR BREAKING THIS STORY!
40

jdships,

29/02/2008 08:38:58
4 Ard Righ,The Rock Of Edinburgh
"Lets hope the usurping german nazi gets shot dead."

What a sad person you must be I genuinly feel sorry for you !
The "Rock of Edinburgh " I take it is your brain ?
I have no great love for the "Royal " set up but the lad is of Royal blood by accident of birth : he is his mother's son and entitled to the good wishes as are given to all young men and women who are serving abroad.

You talk of Nazi's - have you researched your family and know who you are related to ? - Atilla the Hun , possibly
Remember there is no such thing as a "pure bred Scot "
41

J J MAROONER,

ex WO1 29/02/2008 08:45:31
41#

The media no doubt have hyped this, as what used to be known as an FAC Harry will possibly never have to "fix bayonets", however he is at the sharp end, and credit to him for standing his ground - he did not have to go, and I suspect General Dannatt would rather he stayed at home.
42

Helmut Smegma,

Edinburgh. 29/02/2008 08:47:37
Don`t be fooled by Harry`s war "heroics".He`ll be guarded round the clock by the SAS,disguised as fellow soldiers.
43

Evan Owen,

Snowdonia 29/02/2008 08:55:01
I wouldn't want to be within 300 miles of that idiot, he threatens the lives of decent squaddies paid less in a year than he spends on wild nights out in a week.

I could swear but it wouldn't solve anything.

Get our boys out of that lousy country ASAP.
44

Amani_Bunduki,

Canberra 29/02/2008 08:58:51
#45 Helmut -a MoD leak has revealed that several SAS close-protection specialists were in careful training around the Hereford area disguised as small copses of Opium poppies which were later to be liberally dispersed around Harry's F.O.B., a further team will be disguised as innocuous bright red telephone booths to themselves also be liberally scattered around the desert F.O.B.

lighten up folks... this bird has flown the coop... everyone knows... he had his 'fun' and now out of regard for the safety of the rest of the troops he should get his ass back home again... he's proved his manhood...

http://emeraldsandash.blogspot.com
45

Jock ex 45Cdo RM,

THORNHILL 29/02/2008 08:59:52
Arry, come back to the UK soonest before we have a 'Saving Private Ryan' type of scene where other lives could be endangered.
46

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K McDonald,

Paranoid Glasgoid 29/02/2008 09:08:01
>>>Despite the fair play argument and 10 weeks of deployment, I am a bit dubious that the Government and the fourh estate can collude so successfully for so long. Even breaking the news yesterday prompts one to wonder what is being hidden.....<<<


The meeja blackout is all a big conspiracy, they are also hiding the fact that the moon landings were faked, Harry's mother was murdered by MI6, 9/11 was an inside job aided by the Jews, 7/7 was an inside job, MMR jab causes autism, there was another shooter on the grassy knoll....


Thanks to our agenda driven journalists, who would just love our mi8litary to be defeated by the Taliban, lots of young men will today face even greater danger than they did yesterday. I wish we could send them to live in the kind of society Harry and his comrades are trying to ensure never returns to Afghanistan.

48

Gothic Rose,

29/02/2008 09:11:36
37# Gusto, says it as it is.
49

Royalty,

29/02/2008 09:11:51
We salute you Prince Harry.



50

Gothic Rose,

29/02/2008 09:13:26
Indune 1 canada.
Any relation to TimW1234?
51

Rob7,

England 29/02/2008 09:16:26
I am very Proud of the Princes commitment to the Army etc. The negative point I have is the fact that the Americans broardcast this story. I thought the Americans were on our side. Maybe we should change sides and fight with the Teliban to oust the American
52

Watson,

Irvine 29/02/2008 09:18:00
So we are all to believe that The Chocolate Box Soldier is doing a soldier's job in a war zone? Don't make me laugh. He wont be suffering from any equipment shortage, he will have his bodyguard which will be real soldiers, he won't see and angry bullet and he'll never get to within sight of a Taliban cave.
53

Amani_Bunduki,

Canberra 29/02/2008 09:18:48
Hey - apparently it was the fault of a magazine here in Australia "New Idea" - which is a piece of crap rag... we should send the entire editorial staff to negotiate peace with the taliban wearing nothing but some solar-powered electric nipple clamps...

*lol*

54

Helmut Smegma,

Edinburgh. 29/02/2008 09:24:37
#47 - LOL.
55

commonsense,

Fife 29/02/2008 09:28:11


And to think,like Germany and Yugoslavia, we will all be going there for our holidays soon.
56

Morgan-LynnGriggs Lamberth[skeptic griggsy],

Blythe,Ga. 29/02/2008 09:36:11
Would he become a general! He is doing as he wants: all the power to him and the other fine lads and lassies!
The House of Windsor isn't all ceremony!
57

Clive Hamblin,

Sussex 29/02/2008 09:37:52
Why are republicans so rude? Has no one explaind that civilised arguments are won by reason and debate?

Perhaps the suggestion could be made that they're not civilised-or don't they like payment in their own coin?

As far as the Prince is concerned, as one of his ancestors said, 'let the lad win his spurs.'




58

Jackie Priest,

29/02/2008 09:42:41
Well, this has been a very effective propaganda exercise.

Trust our beloved media to swallow it whole.
59

Linda,

Edinburgh 29/02/2008 09:47:28
Did Des Browne leak this story yesterday to bury the good news that the SNP Scottish Government has abolished student tuition fees.
60

Richard Lionheart,

29/02/2008 09:59:28
The question is, if we had our current media and current politicians in Westminster during the Second World War, would our main language be German?
61

K McDonald,

29/02/2008 10:05:42
#62 Linda,Edinburgh
>>>Did Des Browne leak this story yesterday to bury the good news that the SNP Scottish Government has abolished student tuition fees.<<<<

Of coarse he did. In fact the SNP and their humanity-saving brand of nationalist socialism are so well known worldwide that the only way to truly bury the news was to farm out the scoop to Drudge.
62

Pax Vobiscum,

29/02/2008 10:10:33
Linda, 62: did he?
63

Pax Vobiscum,

29/02/2008 10:12:21
Good to see one of the Saxe Coburg Gotha's doing something useful and making a contribution to society.

Looks like we've found one who's unwilling to be a parasite. Good luck to him.
64

McMillar,

Fife 29/02/2008 10:23:42
ZZZzzz. As if there were not enough distractions in Afghanistan without dealing with the bureaucracy that goes with this nonsense.
65

Joe M.,

Edinburgh 29/02/2008 10:24:36
So Harry's a great British hero for Ten Weeks on the frontline, yet people are coming back from this conflict in body bags every day.

This is the job he signed up for when he joined the Army. Unlike most soldiers though he is no danger of ever being killed.

Harry is already a multi-millionaire, maybe he could just play cowboys and indians at home in his big house rather than pretending to be a soldier in insulting propaganda efforts like this.
66

Jock ex 45Cdo RM,

THORNHILL 29/02/2008 10:26:27
#s 65 & 66
Peace be with you.
Get to the nub. UK sevicemen should not be there, and the 3rd in line should ge at home.
67

Pax Vobiscum,

29/02/2008 10:30:57
Jock, 69

I'd like to see them get home too, but we need to withdraw the right way. War war & abandon is wrong.
68

Yane,

29/02/2008 10:34:08
#28 Undermine the military? Only by accident I reckon. New Idea is a silly, trivial magazine they would have had that story because Harry is a Prince & Now he's Even Hotter cos he's in a Uniform.
It was six weeks ago they had that story. I guess in future the Defence Ministry will have tae trawl through all the celebrity pages & ads for diets & makeup to get to the bits about where their troops are - quicker.
69

an interested party,

29/02/2008 10:50:41
good to see our media being fair and reporting the news impartially, i wonder what else they have agreed behind close door to keep out of the public domain.

on the main thread of the story

'soldier sent to war shocker'
so f***en what
70

Red Tower,

Dunoon 29/02/2008 10:52:08
Now that the Queen has shown the way by supporting Harry's visit to Afghanistan perhaps Tony Blair will follow suit and have a son don khaki and do a stint in Basra. After all since he was the who invented the crusade in Iraq it seems that he would be jumping at the opportunity.
71

Deeno,

Edinburgh 29/02/2008 11:05:57
I am not an anti-Royal but why was Prince Harry, or Prince William for that matter, allowed to join any of the Forces when the Government/MOD knew they would be kept away from "danger zones" in case they were injured/killed. In some respects I feel very sorry for the way thier lives are led for them by simpering, lettuce-handed, desk Johnnies.
Prince Harry put his foot down and got what he wanted. Lets hope he manages to bag a few skins before he is flown home to Blighty before the lives of his colleagues are put in any more danger than they already are.
72

Boab,

Glasgow 29/02/2008 11:12:08
These are essentially media wars that we're fighting in the middle east. They're supposed to be for freedom and democracy, but are actually to do with the control of oil supplies, in Afghanistan as much as Iraq.

If HRH gets captured it will be a PR disaster; at the end of the day, one white western casualty (especially a Royal) carries way more weight than the millions of dead Muslims in both these countries.
73

Royalty,

29/02/2008 11:13:05
#73 I wouldnt hold your breath. Perhaps the MOD could drop photos of Sheree B on the unsuspecting taliban.
That would surely have them running for the hills.




74

Ayegudyin,

29/02/2008 11:21:40
wow, so harry is out defending our country? wait... no... thats not right, he's out fighting for peace! ...no... no... he's killing terrorists! hmmm...I dont think thats really true either, is it?

so how is this potential king doing a service for Great Britain? in fact, how are any of the army doing a service for Great Britain? they are stuck in a country where they should never have been, exchanging bullets with an unidentifiable enemy (its not a country, or a state, but a group of civilians enraged by our presence in their land... I would be if a bunch of oil hungry megalomaniacs came and started killing my friends and family in the name of peace and freedom for a country 10,000 miles away).

the only service harry is doing is draining billions from our pockets and presenting himself as another statistic. well... we dont really need a Royal family anyway, one less doesnt really matter, does it?
75

kimba,

29/02/2008 11:24:51
AJ. You really are a synical son of a bi-ch, dont be so stupid, the government don`t want him there, the royal's have said they don't want him there in case any harm comes to him or people around him. He has fought every inch of the way to be treated like all the other soldier, and now finally he is. don't take away his accomplishments because of your anti english crap!
76

Joanna,

Cambs, England 29/02/2008 11:27:42
Red Tower @ 73

If we had conscription in this country you can guarantee that Tony Blair and the rest of his ilk would find a way to get their kids excused. Failing that, they'd find them some nice, safe job in the MOD, the chances of any of them seeing active service are zero.

77

Ayegudyin,

29/02/2008 11:29:57
oh, and I agree with AJ fae fife, he's probably done f-all in terms of contribution to the 'war', but we want our Royal to be a hero so the media feeds us this garbage, so eat up my little royalist right wing fools, there is plenty more where that came from...
78

AS Well,

Oxford 29/02/2008 11:36:26
#56 "The negative point I have is the fact that the Americans broardcast this story. I thought the Americans were on our side. Maybe we should change sides and fight with the Teliban to oust the America".

The Drudge is not American broadcast news. It is a right wing opinion weblog.
The first in-print publication of Harry's whereabouts came from the Royal Commonwealth nation, Australia. And then again from Germany. The Brits exposed it first, if Australia is still British?
Any reason you are not swatting them down as well?

Wonder how a limited circulation women's magazine in Australia first got the story? There's some investigative reporting going on...

I agree with Harry's view that the military life may have saved his own life by giving him a sense of purpose and normalcy. For even a brief time it has gotten him out of that artificial world that was doing more to destroy him... more than any war zone could.
I hope he can continue to pursue a military career and stop being the nation's Bad Boy for their own entertainment.


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AJ Fife,

29/02/2008 11:44:44
Kimba#78,

My "anti-English cr*p"???? Where have you read any attacks on English people as race?

I do however, like to attack the following -

British Govt
Scottish Unionists
AM2
Royal Family (mainly Charlie Big Lugs)
Labour Party (mainly wee wendy and foulkes)
Tory Party
Ranger FC
Celtic FC
Westminster/Whitehouse Foreign Policy

and so on!

But I must emphasise, I never attack the English public. There are some individuals who deserve a caning, but it's nothing to do with their nationality!


80

Joanna,

Cambs, England 29/02/2008 11:53:37
Kimba

AJ... is not anti-English at all, I think you misunderstand him sometimes.

He has a wry sense of humour and is a realist. He is correct about the Prince Harry and the media story. It is being over publicised and intelligent people are bound to wonder what they are hiding. Lets face it, this government will not go down in history for being truthful, will it?
81

K McDonald,

Glasgow 29/02/2008 11:57:36
82 AJ Fife,

I do however, like to attack the following -
British Govt
Scottish Unionists
AM2
Royal Family (mainly Charlie Big Lugs)
Labour Party (mainly wee wendy and foulkes)
Tory Party
Ranger FC
Celtic FC
Westminster/Whitehouse Foreign Policy<<<<<<

AJ could you please add me to your hate list. I am a republican, Celtic supporting unionist son of a Rangers supporting died in the wool royalist mother who votes tory. I also support the young men and women who volunteer to put their asses on the line for my benefit - i.e. they do the job parliament sends them to do. I do not and will never see the English Welsh and Northern Irish as foreigners. I particularly loathe nationalist socialists who cuddle up to, and sympathise with, Islamists, such as Osama Saeed, and other such "progressives".
82

kimba,

29/02/2008 11:57:43
AJ. Must be a coincidence that all your attacks are English based,apart from scottish football;you are one of these scots who when England are playing football would support ANYONE rather than England
83

AJ Fife,

29/02/2008 12:02:38
#84,

I'd suggest you get some counselling, you're aw f*cked up! :D

Kimba,

Correct, I forgot about all English international sport teams! Thanks for that!:D
84

Allan(handofgod137),

29/02/2008 12:03:13
Well done to the boy, and to all the whining leftist out there with their snide comments, STFU, the country is sick of you cowardly whining parasites. Harry's done more for his country in 10 weeks than you've done collectively in your lifetimes.
85

kimba,

29/02/2008 12:03:37
joanna, Excuse me, you may think AJ is gods gift to women,but please, he is so anti english infact anti GB it beggers belief. This guy may be a royal but he just wants to be treated as "one of the lada"
86

kimba,

29/02/2008 12:04:36
87. Well said.
87

AJ Fife,

29/02/2008 12:04:47
Joanna#83,

Thanks for the support :) Sometimes that Kimba can be a right bully! :DD
88

kimba,

29/02/2008 12:06:02
AJ. seems you are in the minority,LOL.
89

AJ Fife,

29/02/2008 12:06:56
#88,

What? He wants to be treated like a "lada"???

Does the poor boy breakdown a lot?
90

kimba,

29/02/2008 12:08:52
92,Don't start!
91

AJ Fife,

29/02/2008 12:09:20
Kimba#91,

Read the rest of the thread and come back with the results of who's in the minority. You might be surprised!
92

AJ Fife,

29/02/2008 12:09:50
#93,

Did you mean that? :DDD
93

kimba,

29/02/2008 12:12:31
AJ. Read 84&87,that says what people think of your bilious cr-p.
94

AJ Fife,

29/02/2008 12:19:47
OK Kimba, that's two objectors and one isn't entirely serious. Add your efforts, and we have a score of 89 -7!

Another victory for true Scots!
95

Red Tower,

Dunoon 29/02/2008 12:20:48
#87
The history books don't record many Royals fighting in Spain against Franco. Whereas the "Lefties" were there in their thousands.

Fascism was subsequently to pose a greater threat to the peace of the World than the Taleban does today.

96

Ratman,

29/02/2008 12:23:11
Lets place that tallish, ginger haired fellow amongst the Gurkas. No one will notice him.
Who assigned hime, Harrod's Human Resources Dept.?
97

kimba,

29/02/2008 12:25:03
AJ. maybe we should let the taliban loose on scotland,you are a disgrace to scotland and the scottish soldiers who protect your liberty.
98

kimba,

29/02/2008 12:26:58
98. If you believe that you are a prize numpty!
99

Red Tower,

Dunoon 29/02/2008 12:34:12
#101

If you are capable of serious argument please try and come up with it. Calling folk names doesn't really advance any discussion.

100

kimba,

29/02/2008 12:41:47
102. ok,if you think the taliban is not putting the free world in the utmost danger you must be in denial!
101

Pax Vobiscum,

29/02/2008 12:41:48
Just wonderin....

If he was a footballer, which country would harry play for?
102

John south of Soutra,

29/02/2008 12:44:51
I think that Harry has been used as pawn by this Goverment, if this was so secret was their a BCC reporter and cameras with him in the desert, anyone with half a brain would realise there was something up when a camera crew are following his squad.
103

indune1,

29/02/2008 12:48:24
53 - once again you infer incorrectly!!
104

kimba,

29/02/2008 12:49:59
104. As he was born in England and supports the English footy team big time,have a guess!