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Video - So when can I go on Saturday Night Live?



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Published Date: 10 October 2008
IT'S ONE of the outstanding comedy turns of this year's US elections. Impersonator Tina Fey has captured Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin perfectly, from the accent to the wink to the grin – and the sometimes garbled logic.Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin perfectly, from the accent to the wink to the grin – and the sometimes garbled logic.
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And now the Alaskan governor wants to join her lookalike on NBC's Saturday Night Live show.

"I love her, she's a hoot and she's so talented," Mrs Palin said. "It would be fun to meet her, imitate her and keep on giving her new material."

During her first impersonation on SNL, Fey got laughs simply by nailing Mrs Palin's accent. She described global warming as "just God hugging us closer".

Then came the candidate's interviews with CBS news anchor Katie Couric, in which she could not say what news media she read, or cite an interesting Supreme Court case other than the Roe vs Wade abortion ruling. It was an irresistible target for the SNL sketch writers.

In one answer to a question by Couric, played by Amy Poehler, Fey gives a circular response of campaign clichés that reaches a dead end.

Asked for specifics on how a McCain administration would spread democracy, Fey's Mrs Palin said, "Katie, I'd like to use one of my lifelines."

Before her debate with her Democratic counterpart, Senator Joseph Biden, earlier this month, David Letterman's Late Show ran a skit featuring a Top 10 list of "Things Overheard at Palin Debate Camp".

Number One: "Any way we can just get Tina Fey to do it?"

Fey is not by herself. Impersonating Mrs Palin is a popular pastime. A quick internet search reveals scores of amateur attempts at capturing her unique style, most of them less than complimentary.

From the moment Mrs Palin was selected as John McCain's running mate, SNL producer Lorne Michaels said he barely had time to consider the idea of Fey impersonating her. Others did it for him.

He said: "The next day the doorman in my building said: 'What a gift, you're going to have so much fun with Tina Fey'."

Fey needed some convincing, primarily because she was busy with her Emmy Award-winning role as harried late-night show producer on 30 Rock.

"There are certainly people here who could have played her and played her well," Michaels said. "But the audience would have been disappointed if it had not been Tina. They cast her," said Lorne Michaels, longtime executive producer of the show.

Through the first three weeks of the current season, Saturday Night Live has averaged 8.3 million viewers, or 49 per cent more than last year, according to Nielsen Media Research. The skits have also drawn tremendous web traffic, with 9.3 million people watching an online clip of the "Clinton-Palin" segment. The "Couric interview" has been seen by nearly seven million people, NBC said.

Fey has revealed her own probable political leanings with regards to Mrs Palin.

In a recent interview, she said: "I want to be done playing this lady 5 November (the day after the election]. So if anyone could help me be done playing this lady 5 November, that would be good for me."

But, importantly, while the comic impersonation is tough, Fey's Palin character is likeable, much like Will Ferrell was in his days talking about "strategery" as George W Bush, Mr Michaels said.

Richard Greene, a public speaking coach and author of Words That Shook the World: 100 Years of Unforgettable Speeches and Events, said if he were a Democratic official, he'd be pulling any favour he could to keep her off Saturday Night Live.

"She is so charming and so media savvy," Greene said. "When she has a script, she will completely seduce America."

Michaels is enjoying the ride, letting Fey know that she only has to impersonate Palin through to 4 November.

But what if she is elected as vice-president?

"I think we'll find somebody else to play Sarah Palin," he said. "I don't think she's going to be playing Sarah Palin for the rest of her life."

There are three more first-run Saturday Night Live episodes before the election. Starting Thursday, NBC is also airing three prime-time editions of the show at 9:30pm.

The show they all want to appear on
DESPITE its persistent lampooning of politicians, Saturday Night Live has proved a strange draw for presidential hopefuls during this campaign.

Desperate to court the youth vote and be seen to be "with it", adding warmth to their image, they risk rendering themselves wooden and humourless.

Hillary Clinton took the plunge and appeared in a sketch on a show alongside her impersonator Amy Poehler, wearing matching outfits, during which she mocked her own campaign.

Rudy Giuliani, who failed to be picked as a Republican candidate, also appeared, as did another one-time Republican hopeful Mike Huckabee.

Barrack Obama has also made a brief, but effective appearance on the show, in which he attends a Halloween party wearing an Obama mask.

He was due to appear again last month, but cancelled when storms ravaged Texas.

John McCain, a stalwart of the comedy chat show circuit, also embraced the show's satirical edge, though perhaps to less effect, with a prolonged wooden performance in which he mocked his own age and political achievements.


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1

Guga II,

Rockall 10/10/2008 00:48:00
Garbled logic? Listening to the real thing, i.e. Palin herself, sounds more like a comedy than the Tina Fey version.
2

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 10/10/2008 01:24:43

I could see me, ..'Falling' For "Tina Fey" she is not a bad looker!

Love the Hair!

Mind you she is a tad older than my DYW! :))
3

D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

10/10/2008 01:25:24

I honestly find Sarah extremely entertaining, but I'm terrified at the prospect of having her in high office.

It's such a shame that this had to be the woman who came closest to the vice presidency, as she confirms all of the worst fears regarding women in government.

The depth of her ignorance and her attempts to cover it are the stuff of high comedy.

4

SCULLION1,

Canada 10/10/2008 01:28:38
SCULLION1
(I was told to do the above to catch trolls. We'll see)
In the Western democracies, you'd better be able to laugh at yourself or you're in trouble. This is what keeps us ahead of the totalitarian states. Imagine Kim Il Jong mocking himself, or Putin or Ahmadinejad
However, check this link to The Onion's (the best satirical site on the web)take on the latter.
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/world_leaders_gather_to_roast
5

thatscottishman,

10/10/2008 01:44:48
4 SCULLION1

Just put a net over your head.
6

Jock MacSprog,

10/10/2008 02:30:25
so the European press has abandoned any pretense of objectivity (what little they ever tried) now and are jumping firmly and happily onto the Obama bandwagon ? Reading articles like this its clear these Obama cheerleaders can hardly contain their stary eyed teenage girl like enthusiasm.
7

Virginian,

USA 10/10/2008 02:35:31
It would be fair to have Sarah Palin interview Katie Couric and to have the "equal opportunity" to ask all the questions.

Be good to see Couric squirm for a change since it's easy to be the inquisitor and not the inquisitee!!

Since Palin is fairly busy being the Governor of Alaska, campaigning for VP of the US and being a wife and mother, she can be forgiven for not keeping up with the latest news media palaver.

Katie Couric didn't do herself any favor by this disgraceful display no matter how many people saw the interview. Many viewers saw Couric as arrogant and rude.

8

Guga II,

Rockall 10/10/2008 02:46:29
#7 Virginian.

Why don't you check out this site:

http://www.Rednecks4obama.com

9

baffies away,

The Rockies 10/10/2008 02:50:14
7- ummmm the difference is Katie Couric isnt standing for political office! What a daft justification for one of the most hilarious interviews ever.
10

weeknocky,

Clarence 10/10/2008 03:27:23
The sad part of all this is that some voters in the US view SNL as a news program.

And all of you Obama folks, would you please tell me what qualifications the man has to be the president of the US besides being able to speak. He has never held a job that requires work. He apparently has had a free ride all of his life and thinks that is the way everyone should live. But wait, someone has to pay for it. Damn it's me.
11

Neil Waugh,

10/10/2008 03:33:57
From the New York Daily News yesterday morning.

"I love her, she's a hoot and she's so talented," Palin said. "It would be fun to meet her, imitate her and keep on giving her new material."

From the moment Palin was selected as John McCain's running mate, Michaels said he barely had time to consider the idea of Fey impersonating her. Others did it for him.

"The next day the doorman in my building said, ‘What a gift, you're going to have so much fun with Tina Fey,"' he said.

Fey needed some convincing, primarily because she was busy with her Emmy Award-winning role as harried late-night show producer on "30 Rock." The day of "SNL's" season premiere, she was shooting an episode of "30 Rock" with Oprah Winfrey as guest.

"There are certainly people here who could have played her and played her well," Michaels said. "But the audience would have been disappointed if it had not been Tina. They cast her."

From this morning Scotsman'

From the moment Mrs Palin was selected as John McCain's running mate, SNL producer Lorne Michaels said he barely had time to consider the idea of Fey impersonating her. Others did it for him.

He said: "The next day the doorman in my building said: 'What a gift, you're going to have so much fun with Tina Fey'."

Fey needed some convincing, primarily because she was busy with her Emmy Award-winning role as harried late-night show producer on 30 Rock.

"There are certainly people here who could have played her and played her well," Michaels said. "But the audience would have been disappointed if it had not been Tina. They cast her," said Lorne Michaels, longtime executive producer of the show.

Isn't it amazing what those pesky Amerks will do to lift stuff from those highly motivated and ethical Scotsman journos.
Even if it means time travelling 24 hours in advance.
12

Virginian,

USA 10/10/2008 04:38:12
#9 baffies away, The Rockies
Quote: "7-ummmm the difference is Katie Couric isnt (sic) standing for political office! what a daft justification for one of the most hilarious interviews ever."

Answer:
baffies away, what difference does it make what news journals Governor Palin reads?

If Katie Couric wanted to inform the US electorate concerning Palin's position on various issues why didn't Couric ask sensible questions?

Governor Palin was actively dealing with the day-to-day issues of Alaska. What a daft notion that she had to keep herself up to date by reading or listening to a "talking head" like Katie Couric.

You are correct that Katie Couric is not running for public office. She is ostentibly a news reporter who interviews candidates.

In this instance, what useful information was Couric able to obtain by her absurd questions? She wasted an interview and preferred to attempt to portray Palin as too ignorant to name a news journal or Supreme Court decision.

Common sense would suggest if Palin was elected mayor of a town and Governor of Alaska she is more intelligent than Katie Couric who can only ask questions of those who are able to hold public office.

Furthermore, it is you who are daft if you thought that it was "one of the most hilarious interviews ever." You must be easily amused by sheer nonsense.
13

Over Here,

North America 10/10/2008 04:39:27
How can this article be a headline when there are such serious financial problems occurring daily. I can see it tucked away in the entertainment section but not one of the headlines.(I don't object to the article)

Perhaps you Brits should sort out your banking system before you become pre occupied by what's going on across the Atlantic.............
14

jj veritas,

10/10/2008 05:12:38
Prescott, Darling and the rest...Why do we need to laugh at foreign politicians?
15

Rob Bennett,

Point Piper Australia IMF Ranking 4th 10/10/2008 05:20:49
Impersonator Tina Fey would obviously make a far better VP than Sarah Bimbo Palin who has no qualifications whatsoever. Palin knows full well that this is the last throw of the dice. The republicans are doomed and Palin is mostly responsible. She's turned out to be a miserable failure.

There's no prize for second place

The McCain/Palin ship has hit the Obama iceberg and is on the way down.

How good is that?
16

Drum Major,

Brisbane, Australia 10/10/2008 05:43:58
"Barrack Obama has also made a brief, but effective appearance on the show,.." Did he bring the whole camp or just one barrack block? Maybe you meant 'Barack'.
17

Let's have the truth,

Queensland 10/10/2008 06:09:37
Here's a video of Palin palling around with Alaskan secessionists:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eniG9l_7its

It should put paid to her claims that Obama was an 8 year old terrorist.
18

Travis,

Chciago 10/10/2008 07:09:27
I know my location is going to murder me .....but I would like to remind the McCain camp that Obama did work as a paid Lawyer and worked to improve the commuity and city lives in.......

Sarah Palin... I cringe that we share the same name.....went from beauty queen, to mother , to mayor, to govenor...what has she done for alaska...oh yea...slept with the oil cartell and told us all that wiidlife is expendalbe and global warming is a hoax.
I will never understand how pro lifers can pick up a gun and shoot an animal and still call themselves prolife.
Wow that felt gooooood
19

El Sabio,

Sibbertoft 10/10/2008 07:15:47
Why on earth did McCain choose Saral Palin as his running mate?

Surely he could have found a more knowledgeable running mate?

What was Sarah Palin's background before she became governor of Alaska?

Who is really running the show and the master puppeteer?
20

MacMerrynoon,

Torino 10/10/2008 07:22:14
Why did people of Alaska vote Palin?
Were they brain freezed?
21

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 10/10/2008 08:22:38
Bush had plenty of experience and a presidential father, yet look at the mess he made of the US.

There're two types of experience, and one of them is best done without.

Palin may yet rise above a Dead Parrot Sketch.
22

Boy Wonder,

10/10/2008 08:22:48
Looks like the Republicans just might have tipped the election in the Democrat's favour with having Scary Palin as McCain's running mate!!!
23

Anton,

Porto Sant'Elpidio 10/10/2008 08:46:45
#6, McSprog, and since when has the US press been objective? ROFLMAO!

#7, Virginian: If you can't keep up with the game, don't play it. As simple as that. Or do you think that IF she gets elected she'll have more time?

#18 and #19, dead on the spot!
It's easy to see that the master puppeteers are the same who had GW elected, and Palin's actions as Alaska's Governor prove that they had a plan on her from the begining... who do you think pushed her up? Not just Victoria's Secrets... These days a barrel of crude has more sex appeal than a plunging neckline...
24

W Smith,

Middle East 10/10/2008 09:25:20
So this story is headline news then, eh Mr Editor?

To her credit, Sarah Palin chose not to abort her Downs Syndrome baby.

Something many daft left wing Scots can't connect with!

BTW
The snivelling socialists who work for this newspaper (yes, I'm talking to you Kenny) should note the following:

1) Loony leftie, Clare Short, while married, gave up a healthy child for adoption to get a university degree. Her son is now grown up and votes Conservative.

I DON'T BLAME HIM.

2) Loony leftie, Ken Livingstone has 5 kids to 3 different mothers and doesn't look after any of his kids.

SOCIALISM AT ITS BEST!
25

Number 6,

Germany 10/10/2008 09:30:19
If the US had ridiculed such stupid candidates as Palin 8 years ago then maybe we would not have seen the nightmare that is a Bush Presidency.
26

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10/10/2008 10:10:15
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27

sonofhamish,

edinburgh 10/10/2008 10:21:27
Sometimes garbled logic? I think thats being generous, she makes Bush look like a Mensa candidate.
28

Mikey,

10/10/2008 10:35:03
The problem is that 'dumbness' appeals to a lot of Americans. They see themselves in her.
29

D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

10/10/2008 11:23:11

Life is increasingly more difficult for the unrepentant J.Sidney McToad. Princess Sarah teases, but will never kiss him, as she is faithfully wedded to the greatest of Scots, Sir Palin of Wasilla.

McToad's facial geography continues to reveal his amphibian nature, while he continually slithers on stage in search of flies, to no avail.
Oh, poor toad !
Dismal Toad ! When will they see ? Will those ruby pig lips ever touch my warted face and turn me back into the the Warlord Price that I was ?

Please feel free to continue this story -
30

Rob Bennett,

Point Piper Australia IMF Ranking #4 10/10/2008 12:29:40
#28 Mikey
"The problem is that 'dumbness' appeals to a lot of Americans. They see themselves in her"

Were you referring to Carolyn?

Todd & Sarah Palin: secessionist Alaska Independence Party VIDEO
"My hatred for the American government"
"I've got no use for America"
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=SnEO4eIp2eQ
31

Dylan fan,

Planet earth 10/10/2008 12:37:23

Katie Couric, my very fav., seemed uncharacteristically mean and accusatory in her questioning of Mrs. Palin. Her eyes looked dark and piercing. Where is the neutral newsperson we love?
As for Mrs Palin, lots of women disarm men and move up in their world by charming them.. This does not mean she is stupid. She may very well be a complicated individual while seeming very simple and predictable.
But then who knows?!
32

Jock MacSprog,

Edinburgh 10/10/2008 12:47:40
28, Ah yes, and we have some brilliant politicians and voters over here ? Lets not forget that the majority in modern Britain are track suit wearing inbreds, swilling lager, eating chips and kebabs everynight for dinner and only interested in football and trash tv. So much for our superior intelligence levels. Its always hilarious when us Brits try to look down at the redneck rural Americans considering what inhabits great swathes of this country. Look at places like Rotherham, Glasgow, Birmingham, Essex, etc etc. The citizens here would make your average redneck look like Einstein.
33

Osama Bin Liner,

Edinburgh 10/10/2008 13:14:00
Ah #13, the true voice of little town America.
34

Silence of the Yams,

10/10/2008 13:17:29
Liberal media attacks Palin, but they won't touch the Muslim community organsier!
35

Finnharp,

10/10/2008 13:23:19
As soon as McCain mentioned to the world his running mate was Sarah Palin it was the beginning of the end. Seeing Russia from your house is not exactly foreign policy material.

I think McCain knew where the economy was going and just through the towel in, otherwise why would he pick someone with such little knowlage of issues concerning us today, she cannot even tell you what paper she reads.

But to be fair SNL has made a great come back after years of garbage.
36

D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

10/10/2008 13:59:45

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/election08/102300/

"McCain's associations continue to be increasingly interesting as well. We've known for a while that McCain has befriended a convicted felon who advised his supporters on how best to shoot federal officials, used the money of a convicted criminal to help buy a house, befriended a radical anti-Catholic televangelist, befriended a radical anti-American televangelist, was a long-time associate of Charles Keating, and hired for his campaign the publisher of a Confederate nostalgia magazine who has described Nelson Mandela as a "terrorist." This week, we also learned about McCain serving on the board of the extremist U.S. Council for World Freedom, where he worked alongside Iran-Contra figures, and a eugenics researcher studying "white superiority."

"Last night, MSNBC's Keith Olbermann had a very interesting report on McCain's associations, including the McCain campaign touting an endorsement from Leonore Annenberg, who helped created the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, where, wouldn't you know it, Obama and Ayers met. Olbermann also noted McCain having hooked up with a right-wing hate group called the Oregon Citizens' Alliance, despite warnings McCain received from then-Sen. Mark Hatfield, an Oregon Republican, about the radical nature of the organization.

While hanging out with the group, McCain heard speakers praise -- you guessed it -- domestic terrorists. McCain could have gotten up and left, but didn't."

37

D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

10/10/2008 14:08:00

Now Cindy McCain reaches all the way down to the bottom of the toilet bowl-

These people are pure EVIL !

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/johnmccain/3166877/Cindy-McCain-accuses-Barack-Obama-of-endangering-her-son-in-Iraq.html
38

georgia,

somewhere outside chicago 10/10/2008 14:50:00
Oh well, here goes my blood pressure again, but I just couldn't let some things rest unanswered....

#24 The fact that Sarah Palin submitted to a potentially life-threatening fetal procedure almost surely proves she is not pro-life in the purest sense. Recently, a friend of mine became pregnant, and ultrasounds showed what may have been problems, but she did not elect to have the amnio because 1)her doctor said it was potentially hazardous to the fetus, and 2)she and her husband had decided to keep the pregnancy going, come what may. So I think there's a real difference between being pro-life in the strictest sense (Sarah says she is...hm) and being pro-life if it suits your purposes.

Not only that, but the circumstances under which Mrs. Palin says she notified her husband were rather odd. She said she had the test, then when Mr. Palin (the First Dude, as he is known in Alaska) came home, she said, "We have some complications" (or words to that effect). What? He wasn't with her when she had her amnio? She waited until he got home (after a snow-mobiling session, one can surmise), and then she sprang it on him....Why do they operate like an unmarried couple? In a magazine article, he said his wife often doesn't make it to sleep until 10:30, and then he knows it's snowmobile time for him....I really don't think Todd Palin, at that point, is using a euphemism for snuggling up with the wifey, is he????

As for Tina Fey's impersonation of Mrs. Palin, it is spot-on, but I don't think Mrs. Palin should show up on Saturday Night Live and be given a chance to, in effect, negate the satire. Later on, when she is sitting by the fire in Alaska, maybe she could be given a brief spot, but right now, it is wholly inappropriate. Barack appeared briefly - Mrs. Palin would undoubtedly want to appear throughout the show, saying her signature, very-orchestrated things about ol' Joe Six-Pack and Susie Soccer Mom. A far cry, I think, from what the Founding Fathers (so
39

Leftie,

UK 10/10/2008 14:50:44
What a piece of useless garbage Sarah Palin turned out to be

Hillary Clinton is a genius compared to Palin

Wee willie winky the alaskan reprobate
40

georgia,

outside chicago 10/10/2008 14:54:08
A far cry from what the Founding Fathers of the US had in mind. They didn't want our lives to be trivialized by outrageous candidates whose experience consists of being well-coached by the likes of Karl Rove and Dick (also known as the First Rifle Dude) Cheney...
41

D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

10/10/2008 14:57:59

The following link is one of MANY reasons that I support Obama. This is the action of a responsible politician, who expected to be dealing with Bush's quagmire legacy within a new administration.

"Undermining the President?" HELL, YES !
Desperate times - desperate measures.

We should ALL have been watching more carefully now, shouldn't we ? We should ALL have undermined Bush's
insane plans all along, but did not. Look what he has done to our world.

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/10/obama-sought-to-sway-iraqis-on-bush-deal/
42

georgia,

outside of chicago 10/10/2008 15:02:31
We never know to what depths the slippery eels and "Barracuda" Heath-Palin will dive - but for Cindy McCain (the girlfriend to John McCain while still married to his wife) to blame Barack Obama for deaths in Iraq and to say that her husband never suffered post-traumatic stress syndrome after supposedly being tortured by the Viet Cong just passes all imagination. I cannot fathom how a person so cruelly treated could escape without some form of anxiety/mental problems.

By the way, MRs. Palin, what do you call the stress/anxiety caused by a girl getting raped by her father and then being forced to carry the baby to term? Or the stress/anxiety caused by a girl getting sexually attacked outside her home by a stranger, and then having to carry that child for nine months????? What do you call that???? Maybe there is an officer training program for women who have to face that possibility in your New World Order, where women have no choice (and men have never biologically been forced to make one).
43

Rob Bennett,

Point Piper Australia IMF Ranking #4 10/10/2008 15:04:00
#37 D. Feste - Illyria, OH
"Now Cindy McCain reaches all the way down to the bottom of the toilet bowl"

AND, pulls out Sarah Bimbo Palin...LOL



44

D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

10/10/2008 15:05:26
NOW I Get it !

When Sarah Palin said that she wanted to be appealing to "Joe Sixpack," she was referring to all the young dudes out there with the TIGHT ABDOMINALS, not the average working-guy !

I have realize that what she says - she means, which is the most frightening thing of all !

#37 Right on !
45

D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

10/10/2008 16:00:53

Infamous John Sidney McToad better have his running shoes handy, as angry crowds frequently turn on those who goad them -

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/09/AR2008100903169_pf.html


46

Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 10/10/2008 17:08:39
here's a story about how Obama has an 8 point lead in Florida.

http://www.tallahassee.com/article/20081010/CAPITOLNEWS/81010012

Florida is 3'rd in population behind Texas & California. California will definitely go for Obama. Florida is a southern state, supposed to be republican.

Here's a story about how Obama is leading by 16 points in Michigan.

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081009/POLITICS01/810090479/1409/METRO

Michigan is a big state too, it was considered a battle-ground state, but McCain stopped campaigning there.

Here's a story about how McCain is losing ground among working class whites.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081010/ap_on_el_pr/working_class_voters

Here's a story about Todd Palin testifying as to just why it was that his wife fired 20-year veteran Monnegan as the state's top policeman. It wasn't because Monnegan wouldn't fire brother-in-law police officer. It is because he told Sarah Palin to put a seat belt on the newborn child Trig.

http://wonkette.com/403404/todd-palin-testifies-in-troopergate-is-basically-responsible-for-everything#more-403404

here's a story about how Alaska Independence Party leader Joe Vogler was going to speak at the United Nations under Iranian sponsorship, but was killed before he could do so.

http://www.jedreport.com/2008/10/alaskan-independence-party-spo.html

Vogler was a friend of the Palin family. Sarah herself attended party meetings where they pledged to secede from the US by any means necessary. I dare say that Vogler is more of a fringe person than Bill Ayers. and Palin's connection to him is much stronger than Obama to Ayers.

The Republican party, the same party that went ballistic in 1861 starting a war that killed 650,000 Americans to stop states from secedeing has chosen a nominee that associated with secessionists. their hyporisy knows no bound.
47

Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 10/10/2008 17:26:30
Virginian in #12: I marvel at the compromises that a conservative like yourself makes in supporting someone like Palin. Palin as mayor distinguished herself by getting a huge amount of money from washington for her city. Less than 1% of city mayors from towns that size hire a consultant to get federal money. Thats what Palin did. and Palin left a lot of debt to the citizens of Wasilla also. As governor Palin supported heavy subsidies from Washington. She favored that bridge to nowhere until Congress made it clear they wouldn't pay for it. You want someone that is a big government republican in the White House? There was a controversy in Alaska over state subsidies for dairy farmers. The entire legislature of Alaska was against them, but Palin was steadfast in support of taking the state's money and subsidizing dairy farmers. Her whole track record is for big-government type spending programs. and you call yourself a conservative. Ron Paul doesn't vote for government largesse and earmarks and subsidies. but you do.
48

Virginian,

USA 10/10/2008 20:52:55
#47 Wally

Wally, good to see that you are still out there attempting to educate the ignorant masses!

Do not say that you are going to write in your vote for Ron Paul and risk splitting the vote and having Obama win by default.

My comment about the Palin-Couric interview was in reference to the rabid bias of the news media for Obama and against McCain and Palin.

The yellow journalism that is taking place is a disgrace and does not win any friends for the guilty parties.

Freedom of the Press is part of the Bill of Rights so that the people can obtain the truth about candidates rather than to provide a means for the interviewer to discredit and smear those they oppose.

Katie Couric should have conducted an impartial interview. If she was a good reporter she would have been able to draw out useful information from Governor Palin. Instead, Couric has lost her credibility and will not be trusted by other public figures she might hope to interview.

Obama is a complete mystery with a host of disturbing questions about who he truly is as a person.

A snake oil salesman can speak convincingly and tell bald-faced lies while looking straight into your eyes.

Katie Couric could have performed a public service to the electorate if she and other reporters had insisted on the whole truth about Obama and his dubious background and associates.

McCain and Palin will get my vote because they are the only sensible choice.



49

Rosie's Opinion,

USA 10/10/2008 23:32:26
Is the USA better off now than it was prior to Jan 4th 2007 when Nancy Pelosi and the Dems took over Congress? No! Things were great before the corrupt Dems took control of America's checkbook.
50

Let's have the truth,

Queensland 11/10/2008 00:36:30
#49 Rosie's Questionable Opinion

If you believe the USSA economy has been wrecked since Jan 2007 someone's done a good brainwash job on you.

Are you blind to the crass stupidity of the Bush administration?
51

D-945,

11/10/2008 02:06:25
50 Let's tell lies

Uhhh... the facts speak for themselves. Rosie is correct. The stock market was at at all time high before Nancy took control of the check book and consumer confidence was also extremely high, close to an all time high. You narrow minded Bush haters will blame him for everything but our economy was in great shape before the democrats took over congress.
52

Rob Bennett,

Point Piper Australia IMF Ranking 4th 11/10/2008 03:19:11
"Palin abused power, probe finds" - latest news

Well it certainly doesn't look too good now for Sarah Palin and the republicans. Things just seem to be going from bad to worse.

"Alaska Governor Sarah Palin is guilty of abuse of power, according to a probe by the state legislature. The Republican vice-presidential candidate was accused of sacking a senior state official, Walter Monegan, in connection with a family feud. The report could have a significant effect on Republican hopes of winning next month's US presidential election."
"I find that Governor Sarah Palin abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 39.52.110 (a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act," investigator Steve Branchflower concluded in the panel's 263-page report.
Speaking after a bipartisan investigating panel reached its decision on what has become known as Troopergate, Mr Monegan said he felt "vindicated".
"It sounds like they've validated my belief and opinions," he said. "And that tells me I'm not totally out in left field." - read the full article on BBC news
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7662820.stm

McCain, Palin and the rest of the warmonger republican losers are about to bite the dust. How good is that?
53

Lloyd,

Nashville 11/10/2008 03:44:07
Hey, D-945:

It took the USA 224 YEARS to build up a deficit of around 5 trillion dollars.

In only 8 years, the administration of George W. has DOUBLED that debt to just over 10 trillion dollars.

Yes, Congress did their part -- but you didn't see W vetoing very much, did you? And for most of that 8 years, it was a REPUBLICAN Congress.

In the meantime, W's banker, mortgage, and CEO buddies have given themselves bonuses that would probably add up to a significant percentage of that additional 5 trillion dollar debt.

Guess who I think should pay the piper now that the party's over?

And weeknocky @ #10: Obama has no qualifications to hold the office of President except that he can speak? Isn't that ONE MORE QUALIFICATION than the present office-holder has?
54

baffies away,

11/10/2008 03:53:54
Virginian...classic...not a clue, really, you dont have a clue. Its not even worth the effort playing with your stupidity.
55

AIan Reid,

nz 11/10/2008 03:58:44
53 Lloyd

50 Let's have the truth

Bush kept the economy up, it even went back up after the devastating effects of 9-11. It's a fact it was fine until the new congress took over, why can't you people face facts?

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11/10/2008 05:02:59
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Let's have the truth,

Queensland 11/10/2008 06:14:04
#55 Alan Reid

The irresponsible lending and the next to no regulation of its financial systems are what has caused the meltdown in the USSA and a large part of the rest of the world.

To claim these irresponsible practices only existed during the last 2 years is total rubbish.

And to go on to claim that Bush "kept the economy up after 9/11 is also rubbish. Maybe the economy was up but it was not by virtue of anything Bush did.

Furthermore, you imply that Bush is able to have an influence on the economy and you conveniently forget that he is and has been (the operative expression) the president of the USSA for the past 8 years.

The truth is that he and his cronies have taken their eyes off the ball when they should have been overseeing the economy.

The fault lies squarely in Bush's lap.

58

Rob Bennett,

Point Piper Australia 11/10/2008 09:52:49
#58 Cutty Sark,Scotland

"That Sara Palin would abuse privilege (for personal reasons) at the state level must surely set alarms bells ringing for the supporters of this woman"

I'm now wondering if McCain will replace Palin?

Can McCain replace Palin so close to the election?

Perhaps he has no choice
59

britfreee,

camelon 11/10/2008 11:16:43
Hanging Out with Radical 60s Bomber

Bill Ayers, the son of a rich utility executive, calls himself a "small-C communist." In 1969, he and his wife Bernadette Dohrn helped found the Weathermen (aka the Weather Underground), a radical group that bombed several buildings, killing a police officer and three of their own members. In 1981, an armed robbery of a Brinks truck by Weather Underground members killed two police and a security guard.

By then Ayers and Dohrn has morphed into reasonably respectable radical professors in Chicago, and weren't involved. But Ayers has no regrets; in 2001 he even wrote "I don't regret settings bombs. I feel we didn't do enough." Ayers and Dohrn were never convicted because of illegal wiretaps and other prosecutorial misconduct that got their charges thrown out.

Great scandal, huh? Only problem is that Ayers' links to Obama are not that clear because the press never pursued the links and still want the Obama coronation in November.

Ayers & Obama live 3 blocks apart in Chicago's wealthy Hyde Park neighborhood, and their kids go to the same school. In 1995, they were both on the board of a charity founded by Walter Annenberg, the billionaire founder of Reader's Digest. From 2000 to 2002 they were on another board together (the Woods Foundation). Obama praised one of Ayers' many books, in a 1997 newspaper interview. Ayers donated $200 to Obama's 2001 campaign. The biggest link was in 1995, when Ayers and Dohrn hosted a coffee fundraiser, at which State Senator Alice Palmer introduced Obama as her chosen successor as state senator. Obama certainly had no problem with that hosting in the home of the terrorist Ayers.
60

Let's have the truth,

Queensland 11/10/2008 11:20:01
How long will it be before people are showing up to McCaine/Palin rallies carrying nooses and burning crosses on the town hall lawns.........
61

Jock MacSprog,

Edinburgh 11/10/2008 14:05:54
To all the Aussies commenting on this board:

Is life really that boring and irrelevent down under that you have to spend your time commenting about American Politics on a Scottish newspapers site ? What has your nation contributed to the world ?....Steve Irwin and Crocodile Dundee ?
62

Let's have the truth,

11/10/2008 14:46:14
#64 MacSprog

It seems Scotland has contributed to the world an insular, narrow- minded bigot.



63

Finnqueen,

Lempäälä 11/10/2008 15:27:56
64 Jock MacSprog

Haters like "Lets spew lies & hate" have nothing better to do.
64

Rob Bennett,

Point Piper Australia 11/10/2008 16:36:14
#64 Jock MacSprog,Edinburgh
"Is life really that boring and irrelevent down under that you have to spend your time commenting about American Politics on a Scottish newspapers site ?

I believe this thread you just posted on is listed under the 'international' tab and therefore relates to American politics

Why are YOU posting on a Sarah Palin thread?

Why not click on the 'Scotland' tab (top left) and post there you fool.
65

Whitecaps,

Vancouver, Cda 11/10/2008 19:39:46
67 Rob Bennett - Troll

Pipe down!

 

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