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The day that small town US stormed world stage



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Published Date: 05 September 2008
SARAH Palin was midway through her electrifying speech to the Republican convention on Wednesday night when she abruptly wandered off script.
"I love those hockey mums," she said, smiling. "You know, they say the difference between a hockey mum and a pit-bull: Lipstick."

The ad lib brought the house down, as well it might. For the party faithful it was confirmation that Mrs Palin, until a week ago almost unknown, not only shared their values but had charisma to boot.

She didn't stop there. Mentioning Barack Obama only once by name, she nevertheless tore in to the Democrats' candidate.

"Victory in Iraq is finally in sight ... he wants to forfeit. Terrorist states are seeking nuclear weapons without delay ... he wants to meet them without preconditions.

"Al-Qaeda terrorists still plot to inflict catastrophic harm on America ... he's worried that someone won't read them their rights?"

Attempting to underline a reputation for down-home values, speaking of taking power as governor of Alaska, she said: "I got rid of a few things in the governor's office that I didn't believe our citizens should have to pay for. That luxury jet was over the top. I put it on eBay. I also drive myself to work."

And with fuel prices at the top of most Americans' worry list, she was unapologetic about renewed drilling in the US.

"To confront the threat that Iran might seek to cut off nearly a fifth of world energy supplies ... or that terrorists might strike again in Saudi Arabia ... or that Venezuela might shut off its oil ... we Americans need to produce more of our own oil and gas.

And take it from a gal who knows the North Slope of Alaska: we've got lots of both."

Sarah Palin's public persona is rooted in Small Town America, a place she took time to praise by quoting president Harry Truman: "We grow good people in our small towns, with honesty, sincerity, and dignity,'" she said, then added: "I know just the kind of people that writer had in mind."

So do the Republicans: Those are the people that John McCain is now banking on to get him elected.

Small Town America seems a remote place to Europeans weaned on a diet of film and TV emanating from either coast.

Small Town America is derided by the inhabitants of New York or California as the "flyover" states because they are best observed from 40,000 feet.

For its fans, Small Town America is the heart of the country. It is the rose-tinted paintings of Norman Rockwell, neighbour helping neighbour, the farmer working hard by day and relaxing by night on his porch with family around him and Jesus at his shoulder. It is also the original article: Small towns were the first settlements, and, in the minds of millions, they resemble, more than the corrupted cities, the solid values of the first settlers.

Mrs Palin encapsulated that image brilliantly. "She did it with a forceful smile, she did it in a way that was humanising," said radio talk show host Robert Traynham. "If I'm the Obama camp, I'm thinking I've got a problem."

In a single speech, more than Mr McCain, more than Mr Obama, she has defined the coming election.

"I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a 'community organiser'" she said, with a dig at Mr Obama's previous occupation. "Except that you have actual responsibilities."

Beyond talk of the economy, of health care, Iraq or global warming, this election is now set to be a replay of the Clinton-Obama primary battle earlier this year: Mr Obama representing the city dwellers, Mr McCain – egged on by Mrs Palin – the God-fearing, duck-hunting, hard-working countryside.

Mrs Palin herself drew the line in the sand, pouncing on an unguarded Obama comment from earlier this year that small town Americans "cling" to guns and God.

"I might add that in small towns, we don't quite know what to make of a candidate who lavishes praise on working people when they are listening, and then talks about how bitterly they cling to their religion and guns when those people aren't listening," she said.

Her own persona is the perfect Republican photo-fit: Her husband rides snowmobiles, she enjoys hunting moose and church activities, has raised five children and refuses talk of abortion even when carrying a Downs syndrome child.

Mrs Palin has given what was a demoralised party a narrative they can run with: It is a narrative that says troubled times are the best times to return to the honest and simple values of hunting, fishing, hard work and Jesus.

Mrs Palin is Christian, not in the sense of having tea with the vicar, but a bible thumper. She was baptised in the same Pentecostal Assemblies of God church of which the former Attorney General, John Ashcroft, was a member. It was he who said the Iraq invasion was doing God's work.

And Mrs Palin sees the hand of the Almighty all around her, even in her desire to push a pipeline though Alaskan land now reserved as a polar bear habitat. Her job as governor, she explained, was reaching out to the people so that "We can work together to make sure God's will be done."

For the Republican top brass, a candidate who is both Small Town and Big Oil is a dream come true, ensuring funding will continue to roll in.

The first casualty in all this is Mr McCain himself: He hoped to win the election by offering himself as a social liberal to a country tired of the failures of a right-wing Bush administration.

Instead, bullied by conservatives, Mr McCain has himself swung right, coming as near as he can to agreeing that abortion should be scrapped, gay marriage banned and creationism taught in schools.

But while Republicans are invigorated by Mrs Palin, Mr McCain's task of reaching out to the middle ground just got harder.

Put on the spot, most Americans tell pollsters they support the right to abortion; and parents in most states object to the idea of teaching creationism.

Mr McCain's move to the right may leave the middle ground clear for Mr Obama.

Mr Obama has already criticised the Palin speech, for failing to mention the economy, regarded by voters as the single biggest failing of the Bush administration. Mrs Palin, and Mr McCain, will need to put flesh on the bones, struggling, as Mr Obama is, to translate soaring rhetoric into concrete ideas.

Ideology the big issue for Christian candidate delivering electoral shock

PROFILE


PEOPLE in the small Alaskan town of Wasilla remember how they got their first Christian mayor.

The traditional turning points that had decided municipal elections in the town of fewer than 7,000 people – Should we pave the dirt roads? Put in sewers? Which candidate is your hunting buddy? – seemed all but obsolete the year Sarah Palin, then 32, challenged the three-term incumbent, John C Stein.

Anti-abortion flyers circulated. Mrs Palin played up her church work and her membership in the National Rifle Association. The state Republican Party, never involved in the past because city elections are non-partisan, ran advertisements on Mrs Palin's behalf.

"Sarah comes in with all this ideological stuff, and I was like, 'Whoa'," said Mr Stein, who lost the election. "But that got her elected: abortion, gun rights, term limits and the religious born-again thing. I'm not a church-going guy and that was another issue: 'We will have our first Christian mayor'."

Shortly after becoming mayor, Mrs Palin approached the town librarian about the possibility of banning some books.

Ann Kilkenny, a Democrat who said she attended every city council meeting in Mrs Palin's first year in office, said Mrs Palin brought up the idea of banning some books at a council meeting. "They were somehow morally or socially objectionable to her," Ms Kilkenny said.

The librarian, Mary Ellen Emmons, pledged to "resist all efforts at censorship," Ms Kilkenny recalled. The mayor fired Ms Emmons shortly after taking office but rescinded the sacking after residents made a strong show of support. In 1996, Mrs Palin suggested to the local paper, the Frontiersman, that conversations about banning books were "rhetorical".

So is she doing it for the sisters?

NO

says Jacqueline Hunter, Scotsman features editor


'HOCKEY mom"? Come off it, Mrs Palin. If that description of yourself is shorthand for "average, ordinary American woman", you're doing yourself and women everywhere a disservice.

The point about Sarah Palin is that she's anything but ordinary: whatever your opinion of her policies (and I'm no trigger-happy pro-lifer who believes every tax dollar spent on public libraries is money down the pan), she is undeniably an exceptional woman. Just ask Barack Obama – no doubt still having his brow soothed by Michelle after being lined up in Mrs Palin's crosshairs on Wednesday.

So why the attempt at feminine self-deprecation? It's about as convincing as Dolly Parton's wig.

It has taken Mrs Palin less than a week in the limelight to enthral America's Republicans.

We see from her track record as a city councillor, mayor and state governor that Mrs Palin is unafraid to challenge cronyism, confront her detractors or push for reform. Having progressed in her political career with the sure-footedness of a mountain goat over 16 years, while also mothering five children, she has shown impressive determination, focus and stamina.

We're poles apart on politics, yet part of me wants to admire her for the unflinching toughness that has got her this far in a man's world; the fact that it has taken her less than a week in the limelight to electrify the US. But to be honest, were she and I ever to meet beside a hockey rink, I'd back away fast.

She's not the sort of woman many women want to befriend. And if she really wants to be vice-president of the United States, she shouldn't pretend to care what we all think of her.

YES

says Bill Jamieson, Scotsman executive editor


THANK you to all those liberals, particularly liberal feminists, who have spent the past five days trashing Sarah Palin. They have helped to make her a star.

More than any speech she could have made – and her address to the Republican convention was a corker – her detractors have defined exactly what it is that gives her so much appeal: she is not One of Them.

Her female detractors in Britain have proved her case. The United States is not the Washington elite writ large. She connects to the many millions of Americans that the BBC and the liberal press seldom trouble to reach.

Non-metropolitan, country America is a huge force. It doesn't have a problem about membership of gun clubs, or support for evangelical Christianity or family values that the elite seems often to despise. That is why she has electrified the Republican National Convention and made this presidential race even more absorbing than it already was. What a breakthrough.

She is not a senatorial retread or jargon-packed policy wonk. Best of all – and this is why we should all cheer her – she is not a lawyer. Inexperienced? Yes. But the sneering descriptions of small-town Alaskan politics have been arrogant and patronising beyond belief. And Americans, in the main, do not vote for those who sneer at them.

Family problems? The saving grace of families is that is what they are there for. Millions of women will identify with her. As for men, it is said "she appeals like a naughty librarian". The trouble with her feminist critics is that they are just librarians.

If only there were a Sarah Palin here in Britain. Who do we have? Hazel Blears. I rest my case.

IN NUMBERS

HER speech's buzzwords (or not, as the case may be) and how many times she used them:

McCain 16
Tax 13
Family 8
Oil 8
Small town 6
Terror 3
God 2
Obama 1
Woman 1

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  • Last Updated: 05 September 2008 1:55 PM
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1

Eboneesha,

05/09/2008 00:26:17
Just as many people if not more watched her speech as Obama's. Even though her teleprompter was not working I thought she delivered her speech much better!
2

Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 05/09/2008 00:42:10
Eboneesha,

Do you think torture is a good idea?

Do you think it good that the US attacked Pakistan yesterday?

Do you think it good that the US funded the Ethiopian army to take over Somalia and throw out the popular government of Somalia in 2007?

Do you think it good that US soldiers forced the popular and freely elected president of Haiti, Aristedes, to leave Haiti or else be killed?

Do you think it good that since the US invasion of Iraq 1.5 million Iraqis have died who otherwise would not have died?

Can you tell us what it was that the Afghans did to prompt a US invasion of their country?

Do you approve of the resolution passed by the US Congress yesterday that asks the President to apply sanctions on Iran?

Did you think it a good thing back in the 1990's that the US killed 1 million Iraqi children with such economic sanctions?

Do you think the DU dust that causes birth defects and deaths among the Iraqis & Afghans is a good thing for us to be putting onto the ground near their homes?

Sarah Palin answers yes to all those questions, but she gives a good speech. What priorities do you have?

If you do answer 'yes' to any of these questions, then please try to justify that answer and I will engage you.
3

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 05/09/2008 00:44:02

The 'Glitz an 'Glamour' goes on and the 'Baby' will win!

'Stand by your family'! the Americans quite rightly love it, unlike us, this seals the election.
4

Dekester,

Canada's westcoast 05/09/2008 01:01:24
Hey lefties..Face it your man stands for nothing.

Palin is a rising star in the Republican party, a real phenom.

Her speech was breathtaking. The scenes have truly un-nerved the lefties.

Osama could have picked Hilary, but he was scared of the competition, and picked twice failed Biden and a true Washington insider of some 30 years..Wow, that really is a vote for change.

He is truly a twit. I said here a month ago, that he had no chance..I was being optimistic.

He really has done nothing, really nothing..in the senate. A good speaker sure, and activist ( organiser.) sure, but what else?

Crikey, her husband is even part eskimo, and was or is a steel workers union member..Good night democrats you blew it again,because you try and appease everyone, yet want to insult Americas heartland.

Ha..Ha. Ha.

5

Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 05/09/2008 01:01:51
Chris yer an out of touch idiot who doesn't have a clue what this election is really all about. Obama didn't win and McCain isn't the "first casualty".
The Dem's pooped their pants Wednesday night by the time Sarah had finished.
6

senza nome,

05/09/2008 01:03:43
3. It seals nothing.There is a long way to go and it could all go off the rails.Never mind what she looks like ,focus on her policies which are extremely right-wing.
7

Edward,

05/09/2008 01:22:21
God help us if the Republicans win on this ticket
Dont get me wrong, I like McCain and I see nothing wrong in Women in politics as they have every equal right to be in power. But I find the choice of Sarah Palin is a mistake of gigantic proportions! I find this 'Hockey Mom' approach so nauseating. Remember the post of Vice President isnt one to be taken lightly, it is after all, as has been said, a heart beat away from being President. She has only been Governor of Alaska for a year and beore that a Mayor of some hick town with a population of 9000! so no experience what so ever. I cannot take this ticket of McCain=Palin seriously. Im sure there must be more experienced Rebublican Women in the Senate that could do the job better.
Another observation, which I found disturbing was the promotion of 'America First' placards at the Republican convention. Is this a hint of things to come if the Republicans win?
8

Scullion,

Canada 05/09/2008 01:23:31
She calls herself and McCain mavericks and are gunning for the Washington elite. Hmm, who's been running Washington for the past 8 years?
The Republican platform is much like the Bible to which they continually refer-once you really start to listen to what is being said, you realize it tends not to make any sense.
9

Moreen,

Scotsdale, AZ 05/09/2008 01:24:50
#6 senza nome

You say right wing like it is a bad thing, thank goodness she is not a left wing nut like Barack Obama.
10

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05/09/2008 01:28:34
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Moreen,

Scotsdale, AZ 05/09/2008 01:29:06
#9 Scullion

"who's been running Washington for the past 8 years"

Well, ever since Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid took over it has gone down hill. Congress has the lowest approval ratings ever! Obviously you do not know how our system of Govt works.
12

somerferg,

perth 05/09/2008 01:33:48

Said it before - will say it again. I don't like or trust Obama nor am I particularly keen on McCain. It should have been Hilary and I fear the American may come to regret not choosing her.
13

Eboneesha,

05/09/2008 01:40:33
#2 Wally

Did they have microwave ovens when you were a baby?
14

Scullion,

Canada 05/09/2008 01:51:44
#9 Hmm, I think my minor in U.S. history might help me a little (major in microbiology).
While the Dems have a hair thin majority in the Senate and a slightly bigger one in the House, they are in no position to override any pocket vetoes.
What GWB doesn't like, don't get done.
15

Andrew BOD,

Aberdeen/shire 05/09/2008 01:53:58
Celebrity politics at it's worst.

Many Hilary Clinton voters will now vote for Sarah Palin. She is undoubtedly a solid politician, a strong person, and in touch with many Americans in middle America.

But her policies are poles apart from Hilary's. And that is the problem. Most people will now vote for a celebrity image, not what they actually stand for.
16

Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 05/09/2008 01:56:41
#15

Scullion, clearly your history lessons didn't sink in. Or the microbes you sniffed in class took over your brain.
Both the House and the Senate also have major elections in November. It's not just Bam versus the fighter pilot. Everything is up for grabs.
17

Scullion,

Canada 05/09/2008 02:13:41
#17 I'm not sure how you see future elections having any effect on how the country has been run for the past 8 years (2 for the present Congress).
Again, Republican thinking that makes no sense.
In any event, the whole federal system of U.S. checks and balances is designed to control the incredible power of the U.S. president. He has far more individual power than any other elected official in any true democracy (he's the only elected official that has a song dedicated to his arrival) and it is the mark of a strong president to put his/her mark on their administration. The mark for the past 8 years has been very bad.
18

D-945,

05/09/2008 02:23:05
#18 Scullion

It's not a democracy, The USA has a A Constitutional Republic.

If you had a democracy, it would be a mad house and nothing would get done.
19

Helene,

Ontario, Canada 05/09/2008 02:28:34
Ah well Scullion, it makes for an interesting election coming up, unlike ours in Canada in October, the epitome of boredom. I'm quite sure the rest of the world doesn't even know that Canada almost certainly has a federal (national) election coming up and few can name the party leaders.
As for Palin, it seems a pity that Clinton did all the slogging, yet someone else, even from the other side, gets to step into the limelight.
20

Scullion,

Canada 05/09/2008 02:39:19
#19
I do grant you that distinction (but that is why wome say our parliamentary system is a better and truer form of democracy despite your founding fathers' fear of "mobocracy").
But my point was that it is the president who guides the zeitgeist of his time in office, not the Congress.
You have mentioned that I hate the U.S. on a different post. Sir/madame, that could not be further from the truth. I simply want America to again be that house on the hill that it once was and am heartsick when I see people espouse values that go directly against that lofty goal.
21

Night Worker,

St Enoch Centre 05/09/2008 02:43:36
22 Scullion

sounds like you want to clip off the usa's baws
22

Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 05/09/2008 03:09:05
Eboneesha in 14:

No, they did not have microwave ovens when I was young. not only that I met one of the men who helped to invent that device.

You've proven my point. There is no substance to your politics. you have a loyalty, but no clue what you are loyal to or to what you are opposed to.

sadly, it is all too typical in America.
23

Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 05/09/2008 03:17:35
http://www.gallup.com/poll/110017/Intense-Political-Week-Brings-Decline-Swing-Voters.aspx

here's a poll released by gallup today. It shows that many undecided voters have made up their minds since the palin selection. by a 2-1 margin they are breaking for Obama.

24

Wally,

By The Rivers Of babylon (USA) 05/09/2008 03:39:36
Wasilla, Alaska - known by state police & arrest statistics as the meth capital of Alaska.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/wasilla-the-met.html

The rural areas in America are suffering badly from economic trends. The manufacturing they used to be so good at has been shut down thanks to trade treaties and currency manipulation that the republicans support. For 300 years our rural areas were great food producers that were very price competitive in global markets. now thanks to these same trends negatively affecting manufacturing we import more food (in terms of dollars) than we export. that never happened until about 3-4 years ago. Economic despair has come to rural america. The Republicans are going to fix it by the ethanol subsidies which drive up the price of the grains that farmers grow. This causes mass hunger in poor countries around the world. It also drains the US taxpayers. Sarah palin loves that.

believe me, there is much discontent in rural america. People like sarah Palin represent a group who are deluded into supporting policies that oppress rural america, but the people are not really happy about her type of politics.
25

Let's have the truth,

Queensland 05/09/2008 04:01:56
#16

"Most people will now vote for a celebrity image"

You are right of course which is a sad indictment on the mainstream US population.

It's like a new TV advertisement influencing people to go out and buy a new product that gets forgotten after a few weeks.
26

Wally,

By The Rivers of babylon (USA) 05/09/2008 04:11:05
LHTT in 27:

I agree. our whole public discourse leading up to election is just like a series of commercials. image image image. the people can't tolerate substance any more. They've been trained to be like that. How willingly they follow.

The real decisions are made behind closed doors by private individuals we don't even know.
27

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Wally,

By The Rivers Of babylon (USA) 05/09/2008 04:40:51
Joe-Kerr in 29:

There was an early American leader named Samuel Johnson who in 1775 said that the last refuge for a scoundrel was patriotism. I couldn't help noticing in McCain's speech tonight that many delegates held up signs that said 'country first'. It reminded me of George washington who said that his first loyalty was to god, his second loyalty to his family, his third loyalty to his country.

I remember also that many Germans under Hitler diligently pretended that the wars that Germany started were justified because Poland was going to attack them (according to Hitler & his propaganda at least). And I draw the paralel that many Americans diligently pretend that the Muslims attacked us and thus all aggression by the US is justified.

the FBI issued a statement saying that they have no evidence against Osama bin Laden on the September 11 crimes. Yet the US has attacked under bush 4 countries, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan and Haiti since 2001. US soldiers went to the president of haiti's house and told him that they'd kill him if he did not leave haiti. that constitutes a military attack against their government. How do americans justify all this aggression? By diligently pretending.

wars, mass arrests without evidence, torture. It is all justified by diligent pretense.
29

mrd,

fairbanks 05/09/2008 04:42:38
Based on the lack of understanding I've just been reading on this string, this is going to be a very surprising election for most of you. The article points out that Europeans have been fed a skewed image of the USA. You believe you know Calif. and NYC, oh and let's not forget wash. dc. This is less than 8% of the country. How the rest of us work, nada. You have no idea what we believe in or what we hold dear. We cling to our religions and our guns, as we have been informed by the elite in the press and the alphabet TV networks. I have met and talked to Sarah on several occasions, she is a hockey mom. If you don't know what that means, go look it up. Remember what she says, not what analysts say she said. Is she an Iron Lady, no. Is she a Pres. Ron, no. Who she might be is a Theodore R. There is a joke up here about the bodies of those who opposed her in Wasilla, and lately in Anch/Juneau. They are laying all over the place. That lame ex-mayor is one of them. This is going to be fun. MRD
30

Drum Major,

Brisbane, Australia 05/09/2008 04:52:29
This is all about voting for a KING OF THE US who has all the powers of a medieval king. They all believe in the 'Devine Right of Kings'. A king who can vetoe laws passed by both houses of elected representatives and senators, and has a Cabinet of appointed not elected persons is dangerous. A Constitutional Monarchy sure feels good when compared with this. Our governments may have some no hopers but it is better than having one nutter with all the keys to the asylum. No matter who is elected the US will continue on it's introverted way thinking whatever is good for America must be good for the world.
31

chics311,

sarasota 05/09/2008 04:52:55
Wally you are such an a hole , you spout garbageyou dont make any sense .31 tells it like it is .obama is toast ,burnt toast, McCain and Palin will be in the White House.
32

R35,

Gurnee 05/09/2008 05:00:51
Scullion, you have just failed Political Science 101. The main thing the House of Representatives control is the money.All spending bills must originate in the house. The problem with the US Economy is that GWB did not veto the wild spending of the Democrat Congress. Does that sound familiar to the UK situation with Gordon Brown a menber of the left wing also.
33

Menzies,

05/09/2008 05:55:01
After 8 years of Bush, you'd think they would have learned. A once fine country now a debt-riddled mess, at war, economy sliding steadily, in debt up to their eyeballs to China and led by fools. If the Americans vote in McCain and Palin, sadly, they will get what they deserve.
34

Pender Paul,

Pender Island 05/09/2008 06:50:48
McCain and Palin are just pawns of the corporate elite. Most Americans, and indeed Canadians, Brits and other citizens of the G8 are too stupid to realize how they are being manipulated for the benefit of a small and wealthy group of business people who will make sure that things won't change--unless, of course, a profit can be made. As for Palin--just look at her--everything is done to achieve a saleable product--the hair, the glasses, the speech, etc.--Ms Robot of 2008. Amazing what a good marketing person can do. Heaven help us all!
35

Sylvia,

Edzell Woods 05/09/2008 07:06:32
For #36
Far from sad ... McCain is no Bush! Shows what you know ...absolutely nothing! The USA is deserving of the changes that McCain and Palin will bring when they win the election on November 4th. Go Mavericks!!
36

Boy Wonder,

05/09/2008 07:07:24
"Shortly after becoming mayor, Mrs Palin approached the town librarian about the possibility of banning some books."

That's all we need in charge ... book-burners! Orwell's vision of a dystopian future comes ever closer if the likes of this woman gets elected.

For the love of freedom ... vote Obama!!!

37

Wolf1957,

Normally NC, USA (Currently in Afghanistan) 05/09/2008 07:09:51
Chris Stephen is clueless on American politics.

The presence of Palin on the McCain ticket means that Obama has most likely lost any chance of carrying a Southern state and with that, the Presidency. Obama needed at least one Southern state to switch in order to have any comfort factor. Obama will now also have a tough fight in the West (except California, Oregon and possibly Washington) and in the Mid-West. He may even lose Illinois where the downstate rural voters can overwhelm his Chicago advantage if they are motivated to vote.

Keep in mind that Obama lost most of the big-state primaries to Clinton. His support is only monolithic in the media.

Nor are the "vast majority of Americans" in favor of abortion. Most responsible analysts put it at a split of 50/50. The numbers change depending upon the specific reasons for abortion (convenience, mother's health, likelyhood of infant deformity). It isn't a cut and dried issue no matter how the media portrays it.

Take a look at the county map for the last two Presidential elections and it becomes obvious how little of the USA is in the liberal left camp.

To win, McCain had to energize the conservative base. So far he's done that with the Palin selection. If Obama goes too far left to his liberal base, he loses too much of the middle. Hence his sitting the fence on issues like abortion, gay marriage, guns. McCain can win playing to his base, but Obama loses if he plays to his.

Of course with about 59 days left, anything can happen. The numbers will shake out a bit more after the debates.
38

Dancer,

Edinburgh 05/09/2008 07:39:08
Is it just me or does this woman look totally insane? Look at her eyes she looks ready to eat any one who disagrees with her. If she gets any where near power her comments on the Washington Media sound like she would kill free speech. Beware the Devil in disguise.
39

Wolf1957,

Normally NC, USA (Currently in Afghanistan) 05/09/2008 07:49:34
Palin has an 80% approval rating in her state. It is a rare politician who can claim that level of support in any capacity (mayor, legislator, governor, or president).

Obama barely holds a 55% approval rating as the junior senator for Illinois and I've seen polls that put him below 50%.

Those numbers speak volumes.
40

Boab,

05/09/2008 08:02:52
#39 Boy Wonder: talking of book-burning - this is off topic but hopefully a cause of concern:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2008/sep/04/gcses.english?gusrc=rss&feed=networkfront
41

sonofhamish,

edinburgh 05/09/2008 08:03:03
#42, she is a card carrying NRA member, and votes to prop up big oil which is by far the biggest employer in the state, and lets not forget that the state hands out oil 'bribe' money every year to its residents.

Wonder why she has an 80% approval rate.
42

Roy Stewart, Phx.AZ.USA,

Write in Sarah Palin for President 05/09/2008 08:05:32
Write in Sarah Palin for President!
Senators Clinton, Obama, and McCain represent 'The Beltway Aristocracy'!
Check the perks they vote for themselves!
Whereas Gov. Palin put the 'Gov. Jet' on eBay . . .
and, as Jay Leno mentioned on his show tonight . . . 'The jet was purchased by Cindy and John McCain!'
43

wnaegele,

Albuquerque 05/09/2008 08:21:14
Journalists, whether home-grown or foreign, believe in this myth that the American population is center-left. Fact is [as determined my numerous surveys] it is center-right. A Republican running to the center-left is headed for sure defeat...
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Alec in Chicago,

Chicago 05/09/2008 08:32:24
Sarah Palin: not a reformer, not an outsider, not honest. but petty, short-tempered, vindictive.

http://www.consortiumnews.com

Articles on abuse of power issues, as well as misusing public office - for campaigning, carrying out a vendetta against her brother-in-law, lying about her support for the 'bridge to nowhere,' rolling in pork [earmarks: funding provisions for special projects inserted into spending bills by one or a few sponsors, often without perusal by other Congress critters]. I believe she is currently being investigated in Alaska.

Washington outsider? Nonsense! Her tax-payer excursions to D.C. are infamous in Alaska. $26 million in earmarks for tiny Wasilla (pop. 6700).

Why are these 'Christians' so god-fearing? Probably because they are so immoral and unethical. Good people - (not perfect, just good) - who are Christians are not supposed to fear god. These people don't follow Jesus' teachings, though. They are stuck in the Old Testament: fear, anger, judgmentalism, harsh control of others, warring on enemies for religious differences (however they try to dress it up or disguise it)... Hypocrisy.

Regarding abortion: she is in the minority. The majority of Americans at least grudgingly approve of abortions in some circumstances, such as incest or rape. Palin is opposed even to these exceptions.

She is also for teaching creationism in public schools. [Just in case, US: 'public' = government-funded/tax-supported.] Even the Catholic Church got beyond creationism long ago.

Peruse the above site: great stuff. (Not just on Palin!)
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Spoot,

Third rock pool on the left 05/09/2008 08:37:19
Oh dear, 19 invasions since the end of World War II and now they've invaded our messageboards. Perhaps there should be a rule to the effect that US residents may not contribute to non-US messageboards unless they hold a passport - that would cut it down to size.
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Gulliver,

Harare 05/09/2008 08:49:57
Book-banning.... she sounds like the type that would have gone out to burn the Tyndale Bibles and burn on a stake anyone who preached different from the "church fathers". No different from the Muslim extremists or extremists of any other kind..

Christians would learn a lot about tolerance from the parable of the prodigal son- allow people with different beliefs to venture out on their own. If you are right they'll always come back to you humbled and a lot wiser.

Win people through persuation and not access denial or force.
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Gazzza,

Berkshire, England, United Kingdom 05/09/2008 09:04:37
A truly marvellous speach and most gratifying to see that America has at least one Lady in the image of our own most wonderful Maggie Thatcher.
I for one hope to see Mr. McCain elected to the white house.
Under Obama the Democrats have moved much much too far to the left and at a time when Britain has temporarily lost its way under a misfit government on its way to oblivion we need a strong America who will take no nonsense from those countries who pose a threat to our Western ways of life.
America, in order to recover from the subprime problems may need to take an insular approach but as a country under a new Republican regime she will again reign supreme. At times such as these your own Country and the people of your country must come first. Something that the Prime Minister of the UK and the leaders of the EEC should take heed of.
Good luck to Sarah Palin and to John McCain.
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LAM,

Edinburgh 05/09/2008 09:07:21
This up and coming election has certainly become more interesting since Palin stepped into the picture. At first I thought " Oh what has McCain done" but as time goes on I truly believe he knew exactly what he was doing and why. Palin is not what we have all grown to envision an American politician to be... she is a breath of fresh air. She will get the vote from the people that want someone real.. someone down to earth.. and who cares about all of the same issues and concerns that most average families have. She doesn't strike me like she would ever be a fence sitter where as sadly I believe Obama will be.. he will be minipulated and although probably a good person do not think he has the strenght to carry out that job properly. I wonder if he would be so popular and have as many big named backers if he was white... think we all know the answer to that.
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Malc.F,

france 05/09/2008 09:15:03
Piper,Willow,Bristol,Track and Trig.Yes these are the strange names chosen for her children by a woman who may become the second if not the first most powerful person in the world. They sound more like North Sea oil platforms to me,well there's a coincidence.
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Malc.F,

france 05/09/2008 09:22:03
I have just read the post by LAM and am astonished that anyone can think that she is real and down to earth.
She sacks people who annoy her,she is a member of the awful NRA,she does not believe that her fellow women have the right to decide if they want to continue with an unwanted pregnancy even if they have been raped.
As for your remark about Obama not having big name backers if he was white,go and crawl back under the rock you came from.
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Rico Ganz,

gaurding the books 05/09/2008 09:24:31
Book banning, country first, fear of the alien,threats to those in power, all we need now is some broken glass and off we go again.
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Malc.F,

france 05/09/2008 09:29:12
I have just read the post by LAM and am astonished that anyone can think that she is real and down to earth.
She sacks people who annoy her,she is a member of the awful NRA,she does not believe that her fellow women have the right to decide if they want to continue with an unwanted pregnancy even if they have been raped.
As for your remark about Obama not having big name backers if he was white,go and crawl back under the rock you came from.
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Josiecamp,

San Francisco 05/09/2008 09:30:05
When the chickens come home to roost Ms Palin will have egg all over her face. Reading a prepared speech that took four days to craft is a lot different from debating Joe Biden..and of course she will have to confront her Alaskan disasters too. Conventions are theater and she did a good job of acting.
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Let's have the truth,

Queensland 05/09/2008 09:39:35
#42

"Palin has an 80% approval rating in her state".

With the sparse population there that 80% represents her own 5 kids, husband and future son-in-law oh, and maybe she's counting the one in the oven.
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Josiecamp,

San Francisco 05/09/2008 09:42:38
When she has to explain her support for the "Bridge to Nowhere" and her strip mall kick backs and her 38% approval rating as Governor..and..and.. come November the world will ask whatever happened to that hockey mum...
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Red Tower,

Dunoon 05/09/2008 09:43:25
I look forward to the debates between Palin and Biden. She'll need more than jokes about Pit Bulls.
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FreeLand,

A place full of sunshine 05/09/2008 09:52:52
"America - The rest of the world are heartily sick and tired of your soap opera politics, your introversion, aggression, oil addiction and your plain ignorance of international affairs. Voting for McCain/Palin will ensure that you will continue to be the bloated, lumbering hate figure you deserve to be."

Ah yes, contempt. It's a European's substitute for achievement.
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Pedant,

05/09/2008 09:55:37
#42 "Palin has an 80% approval rating in her state."
Herr Hitler had a very high approval rating too, and that didn't turn out well.
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Black Five,

edinburgh 05/09/2008 10:03:39
What an abomnibal woman this is.She looks like something out the sixties with these old fashioned glasses,a jacket that the Supremes wore and a haircut like the Ronnettes.What a schemie ,common as muck type.How the American people would want to vote for the likes of that would beggar believe.As for the sreeching voice......that would scare Bin Laden.Terrible woman.
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Norman C.,

London 05/09/2008 10:06:03
Better America than Russia.

And, by the way, where ARE the mass demos against the Russian invasion of Georgia? Or have I missed them?
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57Nomad,

california 05/09/2008 10:23:20
Chris Stephens never fails to amaze me with his utter non-comprehension of the country he writes about. Does he write about other countries? I don't know. But his writing about America is seen through a lens all his own. If Chris Stephens told me that the sun was up at noon I'd step outdoors to check. To wit:

"Instead, bullied by conservatives, Mr McCain has himself swung right, coming as near as he can to agreeing that abortion should be scrapped, gay marriage banned and creationism taught in schools."

Did you get that? "bullied by conservatives." How wrong is it possible to be. My dear Chris, you are talking about a US Navy fighter pilot. It is the most dangerous job there is even in peace time. John McCain can land a fighter on the deck of an aircraft carrier at night time and not break a sweat. You, Chris, even if you were just a passenger, would have to change underwear.

Then there is this. After McCain was captured, he was bayoneted in the thigh and groin. He was given grossly inadequate medical care, and as soon as he was well enough to get dragged, they dragged him from his cell every day and tortured him.

The North Vietnamese then found out that he was the son of the Fleet Commander, Admiral McCain. Seeing a propaganda coup, they brought him into a tastefully appointed room with comfortable furniture and plates of food. He was told that he could be released immediately after fulfilling some trifling propaganda work. He had been in prison for seven months. He informed his captors that the way it was done was that the guy who had been there longest was the one that going home first and it wasn't him. He refused to leave for that reason and spent an additional four years in a cell that was 6' by 4 feet. He was brutally tortured on a regular basis. One of the methods was to tie his hands behind his back and then hoist him off the ground by his wrists. Try that on out for size, Chris. I don't believe you could take it for one second, let alone f
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Alec in Chicago,

Chicago 05/09/2008 10:25:36
55 bogman

Did you miss the real news?

We elected Al Gore in 2000, despite widespread vote-tampering and Ralph Nader. The Supreme court crowned the pretender Bush. Google it, if you don't believe me.

Justice Sandra Day O'Connor was anxious to retire - but only if a Republican were in the White House. So she put in with the 4 radical right-wingers and tipped the vote to stop the full counting of Florida votes. She has publicly admitted her partisan political motive. Worse, she isn't sorry - despite 9/11, despite Afghanistan, despite Iraq....

A consortium of journalists counted them later: Al Gore won the popular vote. How many "news" outlets announced it? When confronted later, the typical excuse was that they did not want to cast doubt on Bush's "legitimacy"!

There were actually reports of voting machines showing negative numbers - for Democrats, of course - or machines counting backwards. (How can you have a negative tally? Isn't 0 the fewest votes a candidate can receive?)

Many of us are working hard to pressure legislators to outlaw "black-box voting." We are demanding paper receipts. You can't have a recount without a paper trail. The Republicans are fighting it. I wonder why... Hint: a major manufacturer of voting machines: Diebold. (If a small and powerless country were setting up voting procedures like these, the UN would be screaming bloody murder, and they would probably end up with UN inspectors over-seeing the vote.)

If you have some useful suggestions, many of us would love to hear them.
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57Nomad,

05/09/2008 10:28:37
#65 contd.

Try that one on for size, Chris. I don't believe you could take it for one second, let alone five years.

And now you say that John McCain got 'bullied' by conservatives. This was a guy who had be tortured for five years after he could have just walked out the front door. The guys who were torturing him couldn't bully him. Several of his guards at the Hanoi Hilton mention John McCain's name with reverence.

And yet you say some unnamed 'conservatives' bullied him. Chris, either give us the names of the men that 'bullied' John McCain or issue a retraction and an apology. Maybe it's just envy. Chris Stephen, John McCain is something you will never be. He's a man. You are a weasel.
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Alec in Chicago,

Chicago 05/09/2008 10:29:45
McCain certainly was brought to heel. He was subjected to the Rove smear machine in 2000. From then on, he has toed the neocon line. His political career depended on it. Now he is being rewarded.
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57Nomad,

05/09/2008 10:39:15
#66 A n C

A n C said:


"So she put in with the 4 radical right-wingers and tipped the vote to stop the full counting of Florida votes."

Sorry Al, you've got it exactly backwards. The Democrats demanded that the votes be recounted in only those precincts they considered favorable to them. It was the Democrats that fought viciously to keep every vote from being counted. The Supreme Court quite correctly said something like, and I'm paraphrasing here, "Hey, looky here, if your gonna recount the votes, you gotta recount ALL the votes, not just the ones where you think you are favored"

Look it up. The state of Florida allowed 3 recounts all monitored by representatives from both parties and members of the press. Gore lost all three times. That was eight years ago. Gore was a loser then, he's a loser now, he's just a fatter loser.
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seillean a mhirdenibha,

Williamsburg 05/09/2008 10:43:47
#48
Invasion? The article is about US politics with many UK opinions being given--and you expect no response from US citizens? Y'all certainly aren't shy with your opinions about the US.
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bunker,

05/09/2008 10:47:57
Its a frightening prospect that the people of a nation so powerful are so gullable and sucked in by so called celebs, Insulated and wrapped up within there own borders, not realising how much damage they are doing to the world at large through policies where they think they always know better how to run the planet.

How many conflicts have been solved by force? how many conflicts have the USA solved since 1945? How was the Northern Ireland issue solved? by people talking to each other after years of fighting.

Oil Oil Oil start developing sustainable clean alternatives to this poison like nitrogen so that there is no threat of ransom from the oil producing countries that the USA is so paranoid about

It will take more than God to sort out whats left of this world if that gun tootin party gets in again.
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57Nomad,

california 05/09/2008 10:48:30
#66 Alex

alex said:

"If you have some useful suggestions, many of us would love to hear them"

Alex, do you really think that paper ballots are the answer? Its much easier to manipulate paper ballots than electronic ones. Think Cook County, 1960. Do a little research and find out how Richard Daley stuffed the ballot boxes (with paper ballots, of course) and stole the election for JFK.

However, I agree with you that paper ballots are more comforting, they are for me anyway and I prefer them to the electronic voting machines. I think it wouldn't be a bad idea on election day to have a few hundred extra machines and then randomly remove the in-place machines and replace them with ones that have been vetted by experts from both parties. Then take the machines that were replaced and examine them with the same rigor. I'd feel better.
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Alec in Chicago,

Chicago 05/09/2008 10:48:32
Yeah, the Supreme Court was so interested in counting all the votes - why they stopped the partial recount when it looked as though Bush might lose.

If they had honestly wanted a statewide recount, it would have been ordered.

The loser was Bush - and the entire US.

Google Sandra Day O'Connor 200 election. Want to call her a liar?
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57Nomad,

california 05/09/2008 10:55:38
# 71 bunker

Bunker said:

"Oil Oil Oil start developing sustainable clean alternatives to this poison like nitrogen.

Bunker, I can't tell from the above sentence if you are saying that nitrogen is the answer to the problem or are you saying that nitrogen is a poison? Or, did you mean hydrogen and wrote nitrogen by mistake. Its no sin, I hope, because I do stuff like that all the time. Can you clarify that please?
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Iain Percival,

Den Haag 05/09/2008 11:00:12
I have just come back from a couple of week's business in the US with a feeling we are (collectively) in deep sh**! This crowd will pull it off and cheer lead an Israeli strike on Iran's nuclear facilities, stick two fingers up Putin's nose and generally take us all closer to Armageddon (presume all the God fearing, Christian right, folksie people know what that is?).
The only difference between hockey moms and pitbulls is that the latter don't fall in love with assault rifles. This gal knows what she is talking about when she says the Alaskan north slope has "plenty" of oil & gas. I don't think so. Being Governor of the State of Alaska does not automatically give you great insight into matters geological or petroleum engineering. The north slope reserves can only make a small contribution to feeding the voracious appetite of US consumers.
God bless you, God bless America, God help the rest of us.
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57Nomad,

california 05/09/2008 11:05:06
#73 alec

alec said:

"Yeah, the Supreme Court was so interested in counting all the votes - why they stopped the partial recount when it looked as though Bush might lose."

You are contradicting yourself. In post #66 you say, "So she put in with the 4 radical right-wingers and tipped the vote to stop the full counting of Florida votes."

Then you say: "Yeah, the Supreme Court was so interested in counting all the votes - why they stopped the partial recount when it looked as though Bush might lose."

You see, its that partial recount thing directly contradicts your stated desire for a full recount. Which is you want, a partial recount or a full recount. Your posts are at odds with themselves. As far as the recounts conducted after the election you are completely wrong. There were 3 recounts all monitored by the press and contrary to your statement George Bush won all three. Look it up.

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Alec in Chicago,

Chicago 05/09/2008 11:10:00
Wrong again.

It was easy in those day to stuff ballot boxes in Chicago. (You left out the joke that Chicago Democrats are so patriotic that they not even death can stop them from voting. Or didn't you know that one?)

There's a lot more oversight here now.

Diebold won't let anyone examine their software. They don't want it seen how they get their machines to count backwards. Remove machines at random and examine them? But Diebold won't have it. And election day is too late: it takes longer than that to examine software.

If something were found wrong, we wouldn't be told, anyway - just like the unofficial state-wide recount. How many Americans even know there was such a thing?

The entire system is riddled with fraud. How many people really trust their Congress critters? When it comes to voting, they often break promises.

Obama, the anti-war candidate: never met a war-funding bill he didn't like.

McCain, the (former) maverick: in near-perfect lock-step with the neocons.

There are no longer two separate and independent parties in the US. They are two versions of the same party. It is neither Republican nor Democratic. The Republican party is no longer truly conservative: they have jettisoned conservative values. The Democratic party is no longer liberal: they have jettisoned liberal values.

There was a time when I could understand Republicans or Democrats. No longer. The RNC and the DNC both uphold un-American "values." The republic is very nearly dead, and too many Americans are busy pointing their fingers at "the other guy." The bottom line is, both parties support the US as empire - and no patriotic American should embrace either party. (Too few individuals of either party are excepted from that generalization.)

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Alec in Chicago,

Chicago 05/09/2008 11:12:10
Yes, a slip: O'Connor put in with the others to stop completion of the re-count that was in progress. They were afraid that Bush might lose.

Did you do that search yet?
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Alec in Chicago,

Chicago 05/09/2008 11:16:07
Note that full counting is not meant to mean full re-count. Just a slppy phrasing, no more.

If the Supreme Court thought there ought to have been a state-wide re-count, they could have ordered it. "Sorry, but a parial re-count doesn't make sense. We'll only allow a full re-count." They said that was the way to go - but allowed neither.

Why don't you read O'Connor's description of what went on? Pure partisanship. The courts are as corrupted as the other branches of the government.
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Miss H,

05/09/2008 11:20:40
I think their strategy is to use her to attack Obama in the hopes that he will respond and look bad attacking this totally down home, normal, gun toting, creationist soccer mom. To us this she is completely laughable at best, pretty scarey at worst, but it will go down well with some people in the States obviously otherwise they would not be using her.

If Obama has any sense he will completely ignore her.

Hillary should be the one to comment if comment requires to be made which I don't think it necessarily does.
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Alec in Chicago,

Chicago 05/09/2008 11:27:18
Sorry, my posts are not at odds with themselves. I never said which I wanted.

The partial re-count was stopped. Period. It was not replaced with a full re-count. The Supreme Court allowed neither.

"Full re-count" pertains to all the ballots that were in the areas disputed, including hanging chads, etc.

"State-wide re-count embraces the whole state.

I didn't make up the terminology.

So now that you've gotten the tired old man bogged down by your silliness, why don't you address the issue? They stopped the re-count when it looked dicey for Bush. That's O'Connor's version. Argue it out with her.

My other point was that Gore won the popular vote in Florida - despite chicanery by the Republicans and votes cast for Nader. It was reported. That's the main story. Very few Americans ever heard about it.

The reason "news" agencies gave for not reporting it is that they didn't want to cast doubt on Bush's legitimacy - as though he had any. That was the main point. But Nomad wants to obscure it by quibbling over "full re-count" and "state-wide" re-count. It's an old tactic, and it's really worn thin.

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Alec in Chicago,

Chicago 05/09/2008 11:31:04
A typo: Gore's win was NOT repoted.