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McCain tries to avoid storm damage that beset Bush



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Published Date: 01 September 2008
JOHN McCain last night urged his fellow Republicans to "do away with party politics and act as Americans".
The presidential candidate ordered most of the Republican convention's activities in Minnesota suspended today, the first day of the gathering.

"This is a time when we have to do away with party politics and act as Americans," he said as Republi
cans converged on their convention city to nominate him for the White House.

"I will take off my Republican hat and put on my American hat. We're going to suspend most of our activities except those that are absolutely necessary. I hope and pray we will be able to resume some of our normal operations as quickly as possible."

Republican National Committee chairman Mike Duncan said the first day would be abbreviated, with only basic business carried out before adjourning. The formal business of the convention includes nominating Mr McCain as the presidential candidate and Alaska governor Sarah Palin as his running mate on Wednesday. Mr McCain's acceptance speech, set for prime time on Thursday evening, is among the most critical events of the campaign for his chances of winning the White House.

President George Bush and vice-president Dick Cheney scrapped plans to address the convention today, and Mr McCain's campaign chartered a jet to fly delegates back to their hurricane-threatened states along the Gulf Coast.

The hasty reordering of an event months in the making underscored not only the risk posed by Hurricane Gustav, but also a desire by Mr McCain and Republicans to avoid the political damage that Mr Bush suffered from his widely criticised response to Hurricane Katrina three years ago.

Mr Bush will not be missed by Mr McCain, whose campaign has hinged on his ability to distance himself from one of the most unpopular presidents in recent history.

"Had the Bush administration not let this city (New Orleans] drown, essentially, we wouldn't be talking about it," said Democrat senator Chris Dodd.

In 2005 Mr Bush put a political appointee at the head of the disaster response organisation, Fema, and the result was to make a disaster out of a disaster. When Katrina's storm surge broke a levee and flooded the city, anarchy broke out and FEMA proved unable to respond.







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  • Last Updated: 01 September 2008 12:19 AM
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  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: John McCain , US elections
 
1

Let's have the truth,

Queensland 01/09/2008 01:58:48
"US President George W Bush has pulled out of this week's Republican national convention to oversee the relief effort as Hurricane Gustav bears down on the city of New Orleans".

This hurricane couldn't have come at a more opportune time for McCain to keep Bush away.
2

Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 01/09/2008 03:07:26
an acquaintance who lives in Lake Charles, Louisiana right next to New Orleans said that there is a mandatory evacuation right now and nobody is allowed to stay. He said gasoline (petrol) is hard to buy as most stations are out. Situation is chaos. he said all lanes on highway head north, no southbound travel allowed.

here's a nice summary in The Times about some of the scandals in Alaska about Palin.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4647965.ece?token=null&offset=12&page=2

and here's info on the rumors surrounding her 5'th child (or was it her 1'st grandchild?)

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4647965.ece

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/121350/137/486/580223

http://roschellenelson.blogspot.com/2008/08/follow-up-to-bristol-palin-pregnancy.html

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/08/palins-leaking-amniotic-fluid.php

When she announced her pregnancy she said she was at 7 months, but she didn't look pregnant. She had the baby 1 month later, but she still didn't look pregnant. Her daughter was out of school for many months prior to this because of mononeucleosis. There are a lot of questions.

They did a poll in Alaska and 87.5% said she lied to the public about the scandal surrounding Monegan & wooten. But they don't care, they like her anyway. She may well be the sort of a pathological liar that is highly favored by the people who rule the US. This could be why she was selected.
3

Edward M. Kennedy,

01/09/2008 04:09:04
This is crazy. The President can release $$$ to help the state after a disaster but it's a State matter. Why blame any President for the poor performance of a past Governor after a natural disaster?
4

Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 01/09/2008 04:50:14
Senator Kennedy in 3:

I'd think that as you are a senator that you'd be more knowledgeable. Here is a blurb from FEMA.gov web site.

"FEMA Mission

DISASTER. It strikes anytime, anywhere. It takes many forms -- a hurricane, an earthquake, a tornado, a flood, a fire or a hazardous spill, an act of nature or an act of terrorism. It builds over days or weeks, or hits suddenly, without warning. Every year, millions of Americans face disaster, and its terrifying consequences.

On March 1, 2003, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) became part of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS). The primary mission of the Federal Emergency Management Agency is to reduce the loss of life and property and protect the Nation from all hazards, including natural disasters, acts of terrorism, and other man-made disasters, by leading and supporting the Nation in a risk-based, comprehensive emergency management system of preparedness, protection, response, recovery, and mitigation."

FEMA is already well-funded, they don't have to wait until a disaster to get funding, they have lots of funding.

5

D-945,

01/09/2008 05:16:03
#4 Wally

And Fema was ready to act, and both Bush and Fema called Blanco several times waiting for the green light and she kept pushing them off. Why don't you put the blame where it belongs?
6

Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 01/09/2008 05:33:05
what we see on this issue re: the New Orleans disaster of 2005 is that people who support Bush & republicans & believe in the government are in denial.

In 2001 or so there was a FEMA report issued that stated that unless $150 million was invested in the levees that a disaster could occur with a category 5 hurricane where over 400,000 people died. That was report was made public. The New Orleans paper reported on it even. You can bet that many congressional staffers read it. You can bet that FEMA was showing it to congressional people.

and I think late in 2003 the Bush admin held a press conference in New Orleans of all places to announce that they were cutting funding to the US Army Corps of Engineers section that was in charge of those levees. The US Army corps of engineers had built & maintained those levees, thats the way it has been for decades. The state did not have anything to do with it in reality. They cut funding across the board for the US Army corps of eng., but the particular group in charge of New Orleans levees had its funding cut by a higher percentage than any other group. They boasted in the press conference in New Orleans that the money had to go to the Iraq war. The US Army corps of engineers officer in charge of the levees quit the army immediately after the press conference and was quoted in New Orleans paper as saying that a disaster could result and he wanted no part of it.

The federal gov needs no permission from any state governor to do anything. That is reality in 2008.

It was the federal government that purposely prevented aid from going in to help the people. At one point a group of 1,100 citizens with flat boats and many supplies were gathered together to go in. The state police officer was going to let them, but a federal police officer called a halt to it and 1,100 people held up and did not go in because of one police officer.

I've read thousands of pages of articles on this subject. These things I
7

mike - across the pond,

wally you are reprehensable 01/09/2008 07:54:33
care to print a retraction on your palin postings?

you are basing your "soapbox" vitriol on THE DAILY KOS? you'd be better off citing the national enquirer... hey, THEY actually did some GOOD journalism recently on Edwards...

wally YOU should really be ASHAMED OF YOURSELF, THAT was reprehensable!
8

mike - across the pond,

wally.... 01/09/2008 08:10:25
jeez wally,

I thought we had you not eating thermite and thinking things thru... guess not....

from the late 1800's thru 2006 the federal government had NO AUTHORITY to override local control short of insurrection... now I know you are one of those "9/11 inside job" loons, but if you are calling katrina an insurrection... well you simply need medication...

in 2006, in response to local authorities dropping the ball with Katrina, congress legislated to allow the federal government the authority to intervene.

however the ever broadening wisdom of the loony left has been doing their best to reduce that authority over the last year...

while loonies like you have been erroneously trying to hold the federal government responsible....

stop reading the kos wally.... they just have NO touch with reality....
9

mike - across the pond,

a BAAAD day in wally-ville.... 01/09/2008 08:18:30
"The federal gov needs no permission from any state governor to do anything. That is reality in 2008."

I will be gracious and say you are simply ill informed....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurrection_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act

your "beliefs" simply do not square with reality.

you have the opportunity to retract your allegations...
10

mike - across the pond,

and wally..... 01/09/2008 09:39:43
on your Trig Palin allegations....

http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/08/30/dailykos-rumors-debunked-here-is-sarah-palin-pregnancy-photo-on-feb-10th-2008/

sure looks preggers to me!

and her daughter... unless she's got whale genes, she COULDNT be pregnant in that picture it was taken in 2006

I think you owe us all a couple hours on the corner with a McCain/Palin sandwich board....

not to mention the FACT that while downs syndrome is fairly rare from women in their 40s its EXTREMELY rare from teenage women

jeez wally elevate your debate pal....
11

Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 01/09/2008 11:34:03
Mike, thanks for those links on those pregnancy rumors. Whenever I showed you the links I showed you on that issue I identified it as a rumor or what people were saying at that site.

What I said about the federal government being absolutely dominant over the states today is 100% true. and what I said about the 2005 New Orleans disaster is 100% true as well.

Rush Limbaugh will have a lot of fun ridiculing DailyKos today. But Palin's record in Alaska is that she has a propensity to deceive and abuse power. This has been documented by the Alaska media. The other problem I have with Palin is that she's pro-war.

The DailyKos people did a disservice to their alleged cause by focusing on the pregnancy rumors.

12

Michael F. Moore,

Flint, MI 01/09/2008 11:44:01
#11 Wally,By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA)

I thought I was the biggest idiot ever until I started readign your posts.
13

D-945,

01/09/2008 12:44:04
LOL, I just saw on TV the great Governor Haley Barbour saying during Katrina the people of Mississippi were not crying victimhood like they were in Louisiana but rather did what they needed on the state and local level to get the job done.

Haley Barour Mississippi Governor

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haley_Barbour
14

Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 01/09/2008 13:56:17
Mike,

I should've been focusing your attention on the arrests in St. Paul instead of the pregnancy story which was started by a CIA plant at DailyKos.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/08/30/police_raids/

Why are people arrested or detained systematically for absolutely no cause? Is this the land of the free? Or is this a fascist country?
15

Harry "Dingy" Reid,

Las Vegas 01/09/2008 14:52:46
#14 Wally the Weirdo

Yes, it's sad the demented left has made sick threats about bombs. Their radical hippy views never help the situation. This is what they want to bring on bad press. Inelligent people understand they bring it on themselves.
16

Harry "Dingy" Reid,

Las Vegas 01/09/2008 14:55:08
#14 Tin Foil Hat Wally

Why is it that the Radical Left is always protesting? Don't they have jobs?
17

57Nomad,

01/09/2008 16:46:39
From the article:

""Had the Bush administration not let this city (New Orleans] drown, essentially, we wouldn't be talking about it," said Democrat senator Chris Dodd."

Chris Dodd was dating Bianca Jagger and voting on Central American policy. Got it? He was sleeping with an agent of the communist government of Nicaragua and making policy regarding the region at the same time. Chris Dodd? Benedict Dodd.

Not only was he carrying on with a foreign agent he is knowingly perpetuating a lie that the damage Katrina caused had anything to do with Bush or the Federal Government of the US. We are not a parliamentary government, the President's and the Federal Government's roles are constrained by the Constitution.

When the hurricane struck the infrastructure of the City of New Orleans collapsed and although plans had been made and resources allocated they failed to put in sufficient rehearsal time. The fleet of school buses that could have evacuated thousands safely were left to drown in the growing Lake New Orleans.

That was the first disaster. The second was the failure of New Orleans Mayor Nagin to initiate the process that allows the state of Louisiana to impose extraordinary coercive powers on citizens in the affected areas. Both Nagin and Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco stood there like statues doing nothing. The next paragraph is key.

The Federal Government cannot send relief, troops or military hardware into a state without a direct invitation of the governor. Governor Blanco was tardy in her response, which should have been to formally request President Bush to proclaim a State of Emergency. At this point Federal forces can enter the affected areas, but not a moment before. It was the corrupt Democratic political machine whose two most honed talents, awarding dodgy contracts to political cronies, and organizational deficiencies, caused the problems.

We don't live in a country where the executive branch of the Federal Government, lead
18

mike - across the pond,

wally.,... 01/09/2008 18:01:26
you aint doin yourself any favors pal....

a CIA plant at the DailyKos??? this would all be plausable if they werent SO tainted by posts about Tony Snow, and the like...

what when you felt yourself becoming reasonable you just had to go to the stupid deep end?

as far as people being arrested at the RNC.... is it your contention that there were NO arrests at the DNC? honestly I would find it VERY strange if there werent SOME arrests there as well

one thing you HAVE to acknowledge, that the uber LEFT by its very nature is more prone to the types of "civil disobedience" that lends itself to being arrested... no matter what you think of the message they are intending to send.
19

Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 01/09/2008 18:15:05
King Nimrod! you sound like Sarah Palin when you talk about the Senator Dodd dating a woman you disapprove of. A man named Bitney dated a woman that Sarah Palin disapproved of (her husband's friend's wife who was getting a divorce). She fired the man though he was a top aide she relied on. Then she lied to the public saying she did not fire him (typical for Sarah Palin I have learned).

There is a mountain of evidence to show that you're simply incorrect on the New Orleans events. The problem was not that the citizens did not evacuate. The problem was that the levees broke and then under flood conditions there was no help brought into the city.

It is just as I say the federal government used its power to actually prevent any aide coming in and did not use its resources to bring aid in. Don't you remember the local parish police chief saying on national tv that his officers caught federal police officers in the act of sabotaging their emergency communication systems?

There are many other examples. Let me list but one story. In the mainstream media nationwide they gave a very short story telling us that a team of Louisiana State University civil engineering professors inspected the levee breaks and said that these breaks did not occur because of the flood damage. I read the detailed article on that that appeared in a newspaper in the region. Those LSU professors inspected all the breaks, I think there may have been 7 or so, they said that these breaks did not occur to the high water or the hurricaine. Then there was the citizen who spoke on national tv news, he said he was right next to the first big break that occurred when it occurred, he said that he heard a very loud explosion, he rushed outside and there was all of a sudden a huge break with the water rushing through rapidly so that everyone in the neighborhood had to rush to get out, and some did not get out but drowned instead. The breaks actually occurred after the high water of the
20

Wally,

By THe Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 01/09/2008 18:18:32
breaks actually occurred after the high water of the hurricaine began to subside, the water level outside the levee had been going down for 1-2 hours. Then all of a sudden multiple large breaks with lots of water coming in.

America is unfortunately a nation dominated by an evil clique. This is why it does as it does, this is why its people can't see. These evil events are given to us for us to experience. I don't blame the republicans more than I blame the democrats. I don't blame the democrats more than I blame the republicans. It is the real leaders behind the scenes who cause these things, our purlic leaders merely facilitate. While the people are taught to blame either one party or the other.
21

Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 01/09/2008 18:32:01
Mike on my side of pond:

Do you really think that the people who work for the CIA are stupid? Do you really think that they can't blend in at DailyKos? or at New York Times? Los Angeles Times? Washington Post? ABC News? CBS? CNN? FOX? ETC ETC ETC. During the 1970's a CIA official testified under oath at a public hearing in the US Congress and said that 450 mainstream media personalities had been brought 'under the influence'.

At the DNC recently completed in Denver there were similar things the police did, but not on as large a scale as in St. Paul for the RNC. Most of the protesters at both events were on the left allegedly. They were people with a message, that they were allegedly left or allegedly right does not matter. They were treated badly by police with no justification. This is something that should matter to you.

Among the protesters themselves, they are convinced that undercover agents among them do things to provoke the police, or give excuse to police. The history on protests in America the last 10 years is that they are simply not allowed.

I remember reading of an early protest in the 1680's in Boston. Citizens were in the streets demonstrating and asking saying loudly that the king had no business ruling over them and that his soldiers should leave. The English soldiers were getting angry and had weapons. Tensions were very high. An old man in his 70's laying in bed with white hair hobbled out of bed and went to the protest and put himself right in the front and was shaking his fist and yelling loudly at the soldiers. He didn't care if he lived or died that day. He came over as a boy on one of the first ships to Massachusetts. He was American. Mike calls him a lefty and says he has no rights. How our country has fallen!! only god can pick this country up.
22

Media 1,

cape town 01/09/2008 19:45:41
So McCain is pretending to care about the people. lmfao! Unbelievable.
He is a war mongering numpty and his mate Bush is little more than a murderous moron.

Does anyone really believe that McCain or Bush actually care about the people?

Afterall, Bush stood on the 9/11 rubble and through his blow horn said he would get the people who carried out the attack. He lied, instead he went to war, because that was always the plan. Osama, remeber him?
23

mike - across the pond,

woah wally...... 01/09/2008 23:35:40
did I SAY that the uber left had no rights?

please point that out to me.... never said it, never believed it

what I have said all along is that the uber left tends to utilize tactics that approach (and often exceed) the legal limits of "civil disobedience"...

it goes without saying that those offenders or the instigators of ANY lawlessness could be "cia operatives"...

however I believe in an extremely high level of personal accountability, it is encumbent of the "believers in the cause" to police those who act in their names regardless of the cause, regardless of the location...

THAT said, it must be acknowledged that the accountablity and the responsability of the core group is distinguishable from the fringe groups who act in the name of the same cause.... (the right to life group should not be tarred with the same brush as abortion clinic bombers.... and candidates should likewise be somewhat insulated from 527 groups as long as their methods are legal)
24

Wally,

By The Rivers Of babylon (USA) 02/09/2008 01:30:05
well Mike, I can't argue with you on that.

here's a video of Amy Goodman who is a prominent journalist at Democracy Now being arrested.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYjyvkR0bGQ

Too often the police behave like jack booted thugs, especially towards protesters. and I do remember the pro-life protesters of 18-20 years ago who were treated extraordinarilly badly by police. When immigrants protested 3 years ago, millions of them in several cities, the police treated them decently. When Americans protest, the police become jack-booted-thugs.
25

mike - across the pond,

wally.... 02/09/2008 01:57:39
I think you may be missing the point...

I've been abroad extensively both by myself and in groups...

alone I have NEVER run into an issue... I do my best to conform and enjoy the cultures as they exist, I expect nothing special, and do my level best not to stand out...

in groups, there is a certain "slice" of americana who thinks they have "special rights" just because they are americans.... they personify "ugly american"... and I have spent many hours appologizing for their boorish behavior....

this same attitude gets these types of people into trouble when protesting... they "push the envelope"... often taunting law enforcement and doing reprehensable acts and scurrying for cover.... to the european readers these acts get a MUCH harsher police response from european police than in america...

your youtube link lacks context... from what the police were saying in the video, I would guess (we dont know because that part of the clip is conveniently missing) that she was told "dont cross the line or you will be arresteed" (as they told her camera man)... she crossed it.... she was arrested... it is obvious from the video that after being apprehended, she was not necessarily fully cooperating with law enforcement, and she is LUCKY that more force was not applied. I didnt see anything in the video that really was "over the top"...
26

Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 03/09/2008 05:35:14
Media1..He (McCain) has always put America first. His 5 1/2 years as a POW was putting America first. He was offered an early out by the Vietnamese and turned it down because he is an honorable man, who then was punished by his captors, went thru 5 more years of torture and 2 in isolation because he is a man of character.
What has Obama done in the way of character? Sat for 20 years and listened to a man berate the US and white population, line him self up with Rszko, now a felon and in jail, and started a foundation with him that failed, says he was a community organizer, that the rest of the organizers began, and finished, while he left. He has never crossed a party line, but felt he was capable of being the President of the United States after 137 days in office.. (the rest has been out compaigning).. I'll cite Biden...This is not the place for on the job training.

27

Let's have the truth,

Queensland 03/09/2008 11:09:10
#26 Lynne

What rubbish. Don't you know it's a soldier's duty to either escape or get back to active duty as quickly as possible.

If your story is to be believed as to the Viet Cong offerring McCain an "Early out" and he refused it then that makes him a coward and a traitor.

 

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