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Hybrid cells - monsters or miracles?



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Published Date: 24 March 2008
The Embryology Bill has provoked a bitter split between religion and science, MICHAEL HOWIE reports
THE cries of a baby were the only other sounds to be heard as Cardinal Keith O'Brien delivered his Easter Sunday sermon to a packed St Mary's Cathedral in Edinburgh yesterday.

It was perhaps a fitting interruption as Scotland's most senior Catholi
c clergyman delivered his much-trailed blast at the government's controversial embryo research legislation.

Accusing Prime Minister Gordon Brown of "an unprecedented attack on the sanctity and dignity of human life", he warned that the research could lead to the creation of hybrid babies and experiments of "Frankenstein proportions".

Urging his congregation to perform their religious duty as missionaries , he said the general public was largely unaware "of what is going on" with regards to specific measures contained in the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill.

Cardinal O'Brien believes it his duty to educate the public about Mr Brown's plans to allow "hybrid" embryos, to further research which scientists say could lead to new treatments for diseases such as multiple sclerosis, Alzheimer's and Parkinson's.

But he has sparked a furious argument between scientists and religious leaders that has seen bitter accusations slung from both sides.

It is a dispute that will continue to rage, just like the decades-old abortion debate, in the clash over the fundamental question of how much interference in the process of human life should be allowed in the name of medical science.

Opponents of the legislation, including Cardinal O'Brien, Cardinal Murphy-O'Connor, who is leader of the church in England and Wales, and, it seems, a large number of Labour MPs, underpin their position with several arguments.

First and foremost, they say the creation of hybrid embryos is morally reprehensible – "playing God" to an unacceptable degree.

Some also question whether the use of human-animal embryos will deliver the medical breakthroughs that scientists talk of, while many fear the legislation is the "thin edge of the wedge" that will eventually lead to even more ethically repugnant developments, such as the creation of hybrid babies.

Researchers want to use animal eggs because of the shortage of human eggs. They would remove the nucleus of the animal cell and replace it with a nucleus taken from a human cell. It can then grow and divide like a normal embryo, generating stem cells that can be harvested by scientists. The stem cells can become almost any type of cell within the body and it might be possible to use them to create a "repair kit" for humans.

Supporters of the legislation say creating hybrid embryos will allow more research into how diseases like multiple sclerosis work.

As stem cells have the potential to grow into different tissues, in future it might be possible to transplant cells cloned from individual patients to cure diseases.

Professor Stephen Minger is one of many high-profile scientists who accuse the Catholic church of misleading the public over the nature of the research.

Yesterday, he said: "Where the Church has it wrong is in thinking we are mixing human and animal cells together, creating something that is a true hybrid.

"But what we are doing in the process of doing this inter-species work – which is referred to by scientists as using 'admixed embryos' – is physically removing the nucleus from the cow egg, which completely removes the genetic and species identity, so it is essentially no longer a cow egg.

"There are cow versions of proteins and some mitochondria (which provide the cells with energy), but as the cell lines expand over time, those proteins will be exclusively replaced with human proteins and the mitochondria will become predominantly human."

He says the Church has failed to recognise the lengthy deliberations by those involved in drafting and informing the legislation.

"We went through a very long consultation with the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority over the last year and there was an exhaustive science and technology committee hearing in the House of Commons. In both cases, overwhelmingly, they agreed that these are human embryos, they are not a mixture of animal and human. The fact they have been derived using what was originally a cow egg in no way mitigates the fact they are human."

Professor Robert Winston stepped into the row, accusing Cardinal O'Brien of lying in his comments against the bill. "They are misleading and I'm afraid that when the church for good motives tells untruths it brings discredit upon itself," he said.

The controversial issue will be debated in the House of Commons within weeks, but outside parliament the battle lines have been firmly drawn.

In an open letter, more than 300 patient charities and organisations urged the government to allow the research.

One the other side, Cardinal O'Brien has joined other senior clergy in openly condemning the proposals, writing to MPs and the Prime Minister.

As he explained yesterday: "I recently signed a letter with other church leaders which concluded: 'This bill goes against what most people, Christian or not, reckon is common sense. The idea of mixing human and animal genes is not just evil. It's crazy'."

Science behind the research

THE experiments involve transferring nuclei containing DNA from human cells, such as skin cells, into animal eggs that have had almost all their genetic information removed.

The resulting embryos are more than 99 per cent human. The embryo would be grown in the laboratory, then harvested for stem cells – immature cells that can become many types of tissue.

The embryos have to be destroyed within 14 days – when they are no bigger than a pinhead – and cannot be implanted into the womb.

At the moment, scientists have to rely on human eggs left over from fertility treatment, but they are in short supply and are not always good quality.

A team led by Professor Stephen Minger at King's College, London, has been offered a licence to use human-bovine embryos to study degenerative neurological diseases such as Parkinson's and Alzheimer's.

A team based at Newcastle University has been offered a licence for tissue research. A third team, led by Professor Ian Wilmut, the Edinburgh-based creator of the first cloned mammal, Dolly the sheep, has yet to apply for a licence for planned research into motor neurone disease.



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1

tomi,

24/03/2008 00:10:54
Thank
God for the Roman Catholic Church for exposing this petty dictator, Gordon Brown. Why is he so scared of a free vote?
2

EPS,

Edinburgh 24/03/2008 02:13:23
There are deeply held views on both sides here, and I pray that those who debate the matter may understand both sides.

I am a committed Christian. I am not a Roman Catholic. I admire the Roman Catholic faith for its compassion, for its principled debate of many issues, and for its being ready to challenge the State when necessary. What I do not admire is its dogmatic stance that a fertilised cow ovum is a cow, that a fertilised human ovum is a person. Biology is much more subtle than that. The Church may properly inform public opinion, but it must itself be informed by science.

In this case, the embryos will be admixed embryos, not chimeras. They will be destroyed within 14 days, at the size of a pinhead. They are not cows or people, or anything in between. Many biologists would not even classify them as organisms.

Debate in this field must be informed by biology, and aim to place the moral boundaries where they encourage medical progress while defending human dignity.
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GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta, CA........captured from Mexico 1845 24/03/2008 03:03:08
Hey Dudes ,

Religious leaders should stick to their black/white magic and its beliefs.

They are not scientists .

If science was based on their so called morals/beliefs, we would not have the INTERNET, nor the computers we use, to access it. All created by scientists.

Each time science takes a fundamental step forward, the religious freaks attack it.

Less that 600 years ago, two of the greatest scientists in all of history, Galileo's and Copernican . were attacked by the Catholic Church.

And Galileo placed under house arrest, as his scientific studies and theories, were according to the Catholic church, contrary to the literal meaning of Scripture.

Also in that time, the Catholic church was driving, the brutal mass murders, of all those who did not agree with their religious thoughts. It was known as the Inquisition.

Fast forward to 2008 and we have that same Catholic church in England, attacking the scientists of 2008, with their same non scientific reasoning.

Let the politicians stick to politicking, and the Religious leaders stick to their morals and black/white magic scriptures..

Let the scientists get on, with moving forward in their
studies, and evidence that comes from repeatable experimentation and observation and verification.

Dudes don't forget we live in a "universe of cause and effect".
Not in a universe of black and white magic beliefs as the religious freaks would have us believe.

GC
4

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24/03/2008 03:26:11
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Boy Wonder,

24/03/2008 06:47:28
Didn't their "god" give "Adam" dmninion over the earth to do with animals as he willed? It's only an extension of that symbiotic relationship after all.

But then, this is the "god" that says pigs are unclean and may not be used as food!

People really ought to ignore these godwarblers when they get started. They only want power over all of us anyway!



6

Saoghal Beag,

24/03/2008 09:22:53
if only these scientist had monsanto and co backing them. Plants containing bacterial DNA seem acceptable and actively encourage and yet this proposal results in mcuh brow beating on all sides.
7

Gina Gibson,

Wales 24/03/2008 09:40:42
The cardinal and his cohorts are deliberately twisting the facts to suit themselves which is no surprise from the organised church! They have been telling fairy stories for the last 2000 years so telling the truth is a difficult concept for them to grasp.

You would think that scientists were planning to have werewolves and hobgoblins running around the lab the way the cardinal and his buddies are ranting on.
The research embryos will be destroyed 14 days after they have been created. The purpose of their manufacture is to obtain stem cells for research NOT to have mythical creatures running around the laboratory!

8

Samcafe,

Glasgow 24/03/2008 09:44:37
It was also scientists that told us shovelling sheeps brains down cows throats was a good idea? The public in the UK and much of Europe spurn GM foods but maybe that's because we don't swallow the Monsanto/Scientists line every time. Whether you believe or not in any faith thank God (literally) for another perspective that makes us stop and think.
9

Evia,

24/03/2008 13:49:30
2 EPS

This is still a bit scary. You probably have heard the saying "give them an inch and they will take a mile."

Just where are things going to go from there? Too often, scientists meddle with nature and, one day, things could come back to haunt them.
10

Rozz Fyffe,

Scotland 25/03/2008 01:01:27
foe goodness sake, these experiments are going on NOW in the usa russia china and the uk, you would be daft to not think otherwise

 

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