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Published Date: 01 February 2008
A LEADING art professional has privately urged MSPs to resist growing pressure to keep the iconic Lion of Scotland sculpture, claiming it should not be kept just because the public like it.
Richard Calvocoressi, the former director of the Scottish National Gallery of Modern Art, who serves on the Scottish Parliament's art advisory group, said the 20-tonne lion by Edinburgh sculptor Ronald Rae was not up to the standard required for the parliament grounds.

He said public opinion should not be allowed to overrule "artistic judgement", and branded Mr Rae's work "lifeless" and "boring". He added: "I can't think of a better home for the sculpture than a Yorkshire business park."

But his comments were condemned by MSPs as snobbish and out of touch. Calls for the lion to be sited by the parliament have previously been rejected by the art advisory group.

But yesterday the Evening News revealed MSPs newly appointed to the group were sympathetic to keeping the sculpture once the current exhibition of Mr Rae's work in Holyrood Park comes to an end.

But in a note to the group, Mr Calvocoressi, now head of the Henry Moore Foundation, said: "I feel strongly we should stick to our original decision and not be pressurised.

"There are so many more interesting an innovative artists working in Scotland.

"Where outdoor public art is concerned, there is always a danger popular sentiment will obscure artistic judgement."

Edinburgh West Liberal Democrat MSP Margaret Smith, who has long campaigned for the lion to be sited at the parliament, said: "This guy is completely out of touch. The lion is a fabulous piece of outdoor art, it's the symbol of Scotland and people relate to it and enjoy it. The parliament is an ideal site for it."

SNP MSP Christine Grahame, who has also campaigned to keep the lion, said Mr Calvocoressi's attitude seemed to be "Lots of people like it, it must be bad".

She said: "This is a people's parliament and the lion is a people's sculpture. Never mind high art, this is high artistic snobbery. I think he will make people even more supportive of the lion because of the tone of his letter."

The sculptor himself was furious at Mr Calvocoressi's comments. Mr Rae said: "How can he have the arrogance to say the public don't know anything about art? I was absolutely incensed by his statements. He is presuming to be an arbiter of public taste.

"I think a lot of people will be really insulted by this. I've been encouraged by all the messages of support I've had from people who want the lion to stay there."

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  • Last Updated: 01 February 2008 11:53 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: The Scottish Parliament
 
1

Jimmy the Pie,

01/02/2008 11:41:27
Hardly worth reporting never mind commenting on.
2

MWP,

Edinburgh 01/02/2008 12:26:02
Thank godness Richard Calvocoressi is here to save us all from our terrible bad taste and lack of artistic knowledge. I shall sleep easier in my bed at night knowing that this great man is going to save us from having to look at something really quite attractive.
3

Arthur X,

01/02/2008 12:27:21
It is a monstrosity. It looks about as much like a lion as any other random pile of rubble. Remove!
4

Hugh,

Edinburgh 01/02/2008 12:30:33
"public opinion should not be allowed to overrule "artistic judgement"- What arrogant piffle!
If it isn't there for the public to enjoy, what is the point of art?
5

Iain fae Elgin,

London 01/02/2008 12:35:23
"He said public opinion should not be allowed to overrule "artistic judgement","

But it's fine for his opinion to overrule public judgement?

T@sser.
6

Mercutio,

FALKIRK 01/02/2008 12:37:32
It is "lifeless" and "boring" says Mr Calvocoressi,if that is true its proximity to the talking shop is apposite.
7

Wee Keef,

Up in the gallery 01/02/2008 12:56:06
Richard Calvocoressi- or as he is better known "Dick"
8

Roberta Burns,

01/02/2008 13:00:35
#6 Great observation. That one looks like it's been dead a long time.

Perhaps,Calvocoressi, has a point, even if he is an arrogant ****
9

Gothic Rose,

01/02/2008 13:09:01
It is a bit twee [lion] Puts me in mind of,the lion in the "Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe"Children will like it.
10

John Knox furr First Meenister,

High St, Embra 01/02/2008 13:23:03
SNP MSP Christine Grahame said: "This is a people's parliament and the lion is a people's sculpture"

Is that right, hen? And whit does that make you? A people's loudmouthed opinionated half mad bat? Btw it does look rubbish. I dunno who Mr Rae is but I don't know why he thinks he he's good at carving lions. He's no!
11

Gothic Rose,

01/02/2008 13:35:40
Its one interpretation of a lion.It is up to, the individual as to whether, they can or want to, see more in the work.
12

Iain fae Elgin,

London 01/02/2008 13:36:01
A people's parliament?

Most of them are by default dear.
13

gorgeousgorgieboy,

Edinburgh 01/02/2008 13:38:10
Growl.
14

Memyself&I,

01/02/2008 13:46:07
I just never understood why it can't just stay where it is now. What reason is there for moving it right outside the Parli building? I know Historic(?) Scotland want it moved but why?
15

Bill MacD,

01/02/2008 13:49:41
"Leading Art Professionals" should have their views kept safely within the walls of galleries, where only other up-their-intellectual-fundament types can mutually preen each other. For public spaces, let's have wonderful public art (like this) that ordinary people can actually enjoy, and not need a degree in art history to 'interpret'.
16

Salvatori,

01/02/2008 14:02:37
Well said 15 - he says the sculpture shouldn't be retatined just because the public like it. In the grand scheme of things his opinion counts for nowt and is no better than that of the public.
17

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01/02/2008 14:06:52
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18

Edward,

01/02/2008 14:13:45
Politician of ALL parties and political persuations should avoid trying to be artistic
They are after all only human and can only view something as something they either like or dislike personally, but should not be held up as an example of good or bad taste.
For what its worth I personally dont think it that great a sculpture, as its not my taste, however what you see on one photograph in a paper, might be different as to how it looks in reality
Another view is on http://www.ronaldrae.co.uk/pages/selectedartwork.php?artworkid=49&slideshowcode=HRP

Its intersting that Mr Calvocoressi, is head of the Henry Moore Foundation. Henry Moore Scultures are equally abstract http://www.henry-moore-fdn.co.uk/hmworksinpublic/
as anyone has seen at the Scottish National Gallery of Modern Art
Maybe Mr Calvocoressi would prefer that there were some Henry Moore Sculptures at Holyrood, just maybe he has a conflict of interest
19

AJ Fife,

01/02/2008 14:44:50
The Lion sculpture is a quality piece of work, the Italian geezer obviously prefers a random concrete block with a hole in the middle, ala Henry Moore!

There's nae accoontin' fur taste!
20

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01/02/2008 15:13:33
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21

The Judge,

01/02/2008 15:16:02
She said: "This is a people's parliament and the lion is a people's sculpture.

Very true sweetheart, the lion is piece of overpriced crap too.

With 20% of children living in poverty. Old people dying because they cannot afford to heat their homes & feral youth out of control on our unpoliced streets, I'd like "The Peoples Parliament" to fix those problems without wasting time on crap art.
22

An Beal Bacht,

01/02/2008 15:42:09
The great unwashed can not presume to have opinions about art. My goodness, next they'll be expressing opinions about politics.
23

Jimmy the Pie,

01/02/2008 15:52:09
What about a statue of Nicol??
Parents could show it to their kids as a warning about being stupid in their future lives.
24

An Beal Bacht,

01/02/2008 15:58:50
24 - Jimmy that's a great idea but a statue made out of jelly would disappear after the first rain!
25

An Beal Bacht,

01/02/2008 16:00:59
How about a statue of Wendy made out of recycled rubbish?
26

An Beal Bacht,

01/02/2008 16:06:08
A statue of Gordon Brown made out of elephant droppings? I just know some "artist" is going to steal this idea!
27

Finbarr Saunders,

01/02/2008 16:58:06
Richard Calvocoressi is doing you all a favour.

He's an art expert and he'll tell you what you want as a public art,

If you say different, Richard will just turn his snooty little nose up to show his contempt for you.


28

An Beal Bacht,

01/02/2008 17:08:40
This may be more to Richard Calvocoress' taste!

tinyurl.com/34ez4x

Gunther von Hagens may eventually find a use for the Mooth fae the Sooth!
29

an auld Leither,

Leith 01/02/2008 19:41:24
As a person who takes Visitors to our city around the park many times a year, the comments I get are all positive for the visitors, And I like the Lion too.
30

Conan the Librarian™,

01/02/2008 21:15:20
If its in the Parley, surely it has to be a lion b'stard?
31

melissa08@btinternet.com,

Edinburgh 01/02/2008 23:04:14
The Lion by Ronald Rae has a beautiful and benign expression. It would be sad to lose this lovely creature. (from a fellow artist)
32

A Better Way,

02/02/2008 00:58:38
Just imagine,Spook,the amount of Nuclear Waste that we have been lumbered with by London being dumped in a statue of Wendy. You would definately get a few thousand tons in her mooth alone.
33

COLINTON.MAINS,

Oakville Ontario 02/02/2008 03:18:11
YOU JUST WOKE UP A SLEEPING LION SILLY YOU
34

COLINTON.MAINS,

Oakville Ontario 02/02/2008 03:21:07
YOU JUST WOKE UP A SLEEPING LION SILLY YOU
35

Boy Wonder,

02/02/2008 04:42:38
I don't like the "lion" much either. But if the public like it ... leave it where it is. It's not like it's tearing chunks out of anyone ... though if a live animal is ever brought to the Parly, I have several suggestions for its dinner!!!
36

1745,

Edinburgh 02/02/2008 08:56:27
I don't like the frontages of some of the Princes street shops...........!!
37

james 1st,

hamilton 02/02/2008 08:58:11
if the people like it leave the statue alone, this jack-booted over opinionated artist should get stuffed.
perhaps if he doesnt agree with the public he should lose his priveledged positin as an advisor
38

Brian Hill,

Edinburgh 02/02/2008 12:10:45
He said public opinion should not be allowed to overrule "artistic judgement".....

Absolutely right, what do we know? We are so stupid and non artistic that we can't even see the obvious art in some prat prancing about in a bear suit or a huge crack in the floor at the Tate or an unmade bed, pile of bricks, jumble of rusty wire lying in a heap. Thank God for the intellectual guidance of Mr Calvocoressi.

Let's ask Richard Demarco for a second opinion. In the meantime let's bear in mind that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

39

Brian Hill,

Edinburgh 02/02/2008 12:10:46
He said public opinion should not be allowed to overrule "artistic judgement".....

Absolutely right, what do we know? We are so stupid and non artistic that we can't even see the obvious art in some prat prancing about in a bear suit or a huge crack in the floor at the Tate or an unmade bed, pile of bricks, jumble of rusty wire lying in a heap. Thank God for the intellectual guidance of Mr Calvocoressi.

Let's ask Richard Demarco for a second opinion. In the meantime let's bear in mind that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

40

Kipling,

02/02/2008 20:53:49
Not an exactly original icon is it...

http://www.thorthebarbarian.com/ourkingdom/id1.html

I read somewhere that the hairier the lion the less a lioness fancies him.

 

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