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Independence support rises to a six-year high

Nicola Sturgeon: This survey is a big boost for Scotland.' Photo: Jeff J Mitchell/Getty Images

Nicola Sturgeon: This survey is a big boost for Scotland.' Photo: Jeff J Mitchell/Getty Images

SUPPORT for Scottish independence has risen to its highest level for six years, with almost a third of Scots now backing separation from the rest of the UK, according to a new survey.

The results of the annual Scottish Social Attitudes Survey (SSA), presented today, show 32 per cent are now in favour of independence, up from 23 per cent last year to a level of support not seen since 2005.

The poll also found support for all decisions being made in Scotland has leaped 15 points to 43 per cent, while 29 per cent backed control over everything apart from defence and foreign affairs being passed to Scotland – the option often referred to as “devolution max”.

Meanwhile, the survey found the price of independence is just £500 – with 65 per cent in favour if everyone was a few hundred pounds better off as a result.

The results of the survey appear to be a major show of confidence in the SNP since the party was returned to power with an historic majority this year.

While the survey shows more Scots still oppose independence than support it, it also provided a blow to the unionist parties by suggesting that the Calman reforms for more devolution, including boosting income tax powers, currently in the Scotland Bill, are not enough for most Scots.

However, it was not all good news for the SNP, with almost half – 46 per cent – of respondents saying they were worried about independence and only 31 per cent feeling confident about it.

There were also grave concerns expressed about the impact on the economy of an independent Scotland, with only 34 per cent believing its economy would be better under independence.

Concern about a weakened economy comes as doubts have emerged over the impact of the referendum on Scotland.

Earlier this year, Citigroup warned investors to avoid backing Scottish renewables because of the climate of uncertanty created by the independence referendum.

Meanwhile, concerns were also raised in a recent independent report produced for the Commons Library on whether Scotland could join the European Union, and what would be the cost if it was allowed in, with the country potentially losing billions of pounds to Brussels in extra payments.

However, the SNP yesterday hailed the survey as showing that momentum is gathering behind their campaign, which was formerly launched at the party conference this autumn.

The SNP claimed a “surge in support for independence” as 65 per cent of people said they would support independence on the basis that they would be better off.

The party highlighted that support for independence is now 9 per cent higher than it was last year.

Deputy First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said: “This is a fantastic survey, and a big boost for Scotland and independence. It was conducted following the SNP’s historic majority victory in May and demonstrates conclusively that the people of Scotland want to continue the positive, optimistic journey our nation is on.

“Now we know that two-thirds of Scots are prepared to back independence on a positive basis. Since the reality is that Scotland puts far more into the London exchequer than we get back in return, the Yes campaign can and will win the economic case for independence.”

Addressing the economic concerns, she said Scotland would be ranked sixth in the world league table of OECD nations in terms of GDP per head – ten places ahead of the UK.

She also referred to the Government Expenditure and Revenue in Scotland report (GERS), saying: “As the latest GERS report shows, Scotland pays 9.4 per cent of UK tax with 8.4 per cent of the UK’s population – that equals £1,000 extra for every man, woman and child in Scotland, or double the figure in this survey.”

And she challenged the unionist parties to improve the offer of devolving more powers in the Scotland Bill, which is currently in the House of Lords. The SNP wants corporation tax, broadcasting and alcohol duty powers to be devolved as well.

She said: “It should now be abundantly clear to even the most dyed-in-the-wool unionist – even to Michael Moore and Danny Alexander – that the people of Scotland are light years ahead of the inadequate provisions of the Scotland Bill. Scotland has moved on, and the Westminster parties need to catch up.”

Labour last night claimed the survey only served to show that a majority of Scots do not want to see the break-up of the UK.

Margaret Curran, shadow scottish secretary, said: “Far from being the breakthrough the SNP wanted, this shows the vast majority of Scots support devolution and want to see it stronger and better.

“The SNP have been in power for almost five years now, and each year support for separation is actually lower than when Labour formed the Scottish Government.”

She added: “Polls like this explain why Alex Salmond won’t name the day [for the independence referendum]. There is nothing in the SNP manifesto that stops them calling a referendum now, and the only reason for delay is because they fear the verdict of the Scottish people.

“The referendum isn’t a test about how much you love our country – every Scot does – but is about what is best for Scotland.”

Scottish Liberal Democrat leader Willie Rennie, MSP, said: “This survey confirms that independence is a real possibility now, and it is essential we start to get some straight answers and a real debate about the costs of independence.

“Rather than the usual abuse projected towards those who dare to ask for even the smallest detail, the SNP need to enter into a sensible debate about our future.

“Assertions that everything will be fine just will not cut it with the Scottish people, who want to know what the SNP plans are.”

Professor John Curtice, research consultant for independent research body ScotCen, said: “The appetite for a more powerful parliament, including independence, has grown in the last 12 months. However, support for independence is still no higher than it has been on previous occasions since the advent of devolution.

“If the SNP are to persuade a majority of Scots to back independence they will need to convince them of the economic case for leaving the Union – that debate is still to be won or lost.”

There are still doubts over when the Scottish independence referendum will be held, but the survey appears to have knocked efforts by the UK government to take control of it from the SNP.

There had been some in the pro-UK parties who support an early referendum to try to thwart the SNP and not allow Mr Salmond or the Scottish Parliament to set the question.

However, sources in Labour and the coalition yesterday suggested that the results of the survey had “strengthened the hand” of those who would rather sit back and wait for the SNP to hold the referendum.

It is thought that Mr Salmond prefers a 2014 or 2015 poll, although there are worries about what impact this will have on the Scottish economy with a climate of uncertainty.


Comments

There are 646 comments to this article

646

well informed

Sunday, December 11, 2011 at 08:26 PM

I see the multi logon one is still making up his own web links and hoping nobody notices that they dont actually exist anywhere but on on this blog. All its managed to prove is that it works for the hootsmon! But not for long is sales figures are anything to go by.



645

The Answer

Saturday, December 10, 2011 at 04:02 PM

"In 2009-10, total public sector expenditure for the benefit of Scotland, plus a per capita share of debt interest payments, was £62.1 billion. This is equivalent to 9.3% of total UK public sector expenditure.". . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . "When an illustrative geographical share of North Sea revenue is included, total Scottish public sector revenue was estimated at £48.1 billion (9.4 per cent of UK total public sector revenue).". . . . . . http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publications/2011/06/21144516/1



644

The Answer

Saturday, December 10, 2011 at 04:00 PM

TABLE 3.1 - COUNT OF ACTIVE ENTERPRISES for 2010................ Business Demography 2010. . .(data released 6-12-2011).................. 2,001,885. . . ENGLAND........................................................................ 403,080. . . LONDON............................................................................ 369,920. . . SOUTH EAST..................................................................... 233,090. . . EAST.................................................................................. 228,245. . . NORTH WEST................................................................... 212,885. . . Inner London....................................................................... 202,620. . . SOUTH WEST .................................................................. 190,195. . . Outer London ..................................................................... 186,150. . . WEST MIDLANDS.............................................................. 163,210. . . YORKSHIRE AND THE HUMBER.................................... 153,615. . . EAST MIDLANDS............................................................... 151,320. . . scotland.............................................................................. 88,170. . . WALES................................................................................. 61,955. . . NORTH EAST...................................................................... 58,980. . . NORTHERN IRELAND......................................................... http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/bus-register/business-demography/2010/business-demography-2010.xls



643

The Voice of Reason

Saturday, December 10, 2011 at 12:43 PM

642 The people have spoken. Dependence lovers hold a minority view.



642

mahatmacoat

Friday, December 9, 2011 at 12:02 PM

#628.."their own parliament" Exactly what the independent Orkney and Shetland Islanders will have when the shed the yoke of Scottish Imperialism? All that oil around their shores,,every islander would have a BMW lifestyle.



641

mahatmacoat

Friday, December 9, 2011 at 11:54 AM

#639.. "91.6% of all duty from Edinburgh airport is allocated outside Scotland." I thought the SNP intend to abolish this duty altogether?..Another myth bites the dust?



640

Miliband's British Defence League

Wednesday, December 7, 2011 at 01:20 PM

The Answer! Shouldn't you be out rioting and looting or something? I see Cameron today promised that no one should set another country's borrowing, debt or finance levels. Exactly the same position that you want for those sponging Scots who are controlled by London and it's very dodgy skewed statistics and lies. Either your unhealthy hatred of Scots makes you support Scottish independence or your British Bull-dog bigotry means you want London to continue to pillage Scotland's wealth and minerals for the next fifty years. Just which nasty position do you hold?



639

Anagach

Tuesday, December 6, 2011 at 11:33 AM

635 The Answer upon independence is England expected to send up to hollyrood said same 8.4% APD? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Right now 91.6% of all duty from Edinburgh airport is allocated outside Scotland. On Independence that will remain in Scotland. But I am glad you opened the Airports issue, the Westminster air plan has been to concentrate ALL air via London both cargo and passengers, this has weakend in the last 20 years due to capacity constraints - never the less airports outside London are held back by this policy.



638

gingernut

Tuesday, December 6, 2011 at 11:13 AM

it is hardly surprising !!it has become imperative that scotland secure it's freedom by obtaining independence, the time has come to be free of the english yoke because they have been an albatross around the shoulders of the scottish people.... for far to many years!!! as England goes into steady decline with this so called goverment that nobody voted for making an appalling mess of any thing they touch and so england is on it's way down .. as long as cameron and the rest of that mob are in power there will only be misery... the people did not vote for a torylib dem goverment so politicians appointed themselves so democracy is a thing of the past ,that is ,if it ever really existed !!!!!!



637

hello it's me!

Tuesday, December 6, 2011 at 10:56 AM

Ms Sturgeon, if you're going to spout rubbish at least make sure it's not obvious rubbish. The much-touted GERS report that you quote simply assumes that Scots generate the same amount of government revenue per capita (excluding North Sea Oil) as the rest of the UK, then adds the oil on top. Genius! Even if it were true that Scotland (excluding oil) generated the same per capita revenue as the rest of the UK (which happens to include the City of London and the stockbroker belt) it still doesn't make us any better off because according to the same report 9.3% of public expenditure happens in Scotland (i.e. the same percentage as the most optimistic estimate of public spending). And that too represents a deficit of 14 Billion pounds so the implication that there would be lots of extra money to spend is simply misleading in the extreme.



636

The auld lies will nae wash any mair

Tuesday, December 6, 2011 at 09:10 AM

The unionists are panicking as this survey demonstrates conclusively that all their gross untruths have fallen on deaf years and their status quo and their pathetic Calman proposals are completely unacceptable to the vast majority of Scots. Unionism is now completely dead as it stands and because the unionists have not moved with the times, the prospect of full blown independence for Scotland is now a very real possibility.



635

The Answer

Tuesday, December 6, 2011 at 12:11 AM

GERS allocates 8.4% of Air Passenger Duty to scotland for each and every passenger departing from Heathrow airport and every other airport located geographicaly in England!.....................upon independence is England expected to send up to hollyrood said same 8.4% APD?



634

Brit-free

Tuesday, December 6, 2011 at 12:08 AM

copy and pasted myself from an unresonsive page .......oooops



633

Brit-free

Tuesday, December 6, 2011 at 12:06 AM

mo the porpoise arrives talking about a person i have never heard of posting on a site i've never heard of ...and finishes with a gratuitous insult ..presumably directed towards the First Minister of the hugely popular majority government ....seemingly we all " look" like him or similar mince ......i still havent gotten over some earlier unionist clowns' Tartan Mugabe ....not one of Maurices i think ....but indicitive of the lack of reasoned argument or the evidence of the capacity for deep thought , we have all become bored by when sharing a thread with the " cream of unionism mo the porpoise arrives talking about a person i dont know posting on a site i've never heard of ...and finishes with a gratuitous insult ..presumably directed towards the First Minister of the hugely popular majority government ....seemingly we all " look" like him or similar mince ......i still havent gotten over some earlier unionist clowns' Tartan Mugabe ....not one of Maurices i think ....but indicitive of the lack of reasoned argument or the evidence of the capacity for deep thought , we have all become bored by when sharing a thread with the " cream of unionism "



632

The Answer

Tuesday, December 6, 2011 at 12:05 AM

"She also referred to the Government Expenditure and Revenue in Scotland report (GERS), saying: “As the latest GERS report shows, Scotland pays 9.4 per cent of UK tax with 8.4 per cent of the UK’s population – that equals £1,000 extra for every man, woman and child in Scotland, or double the figure in this survey.”. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . The very same GERS that states 9.4% revenue and 9.3% expenditure. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ."In 2009-10, total public sector expenditure for the benefit of Scotland, plus a per capita share of debt interest payments, was £62.1 billion. This is equivalent to 9.3% of total UK public sector expenditure.". . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . "When an illustrative geographical share of North Sea revenue is included, total Scottish public sector revenue was estimated at £48.1 billion (9.4 per cent of UK total public sector revenue).". . . . . . http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publications/2011/06/21144516/1



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