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First Minister branded an 'international flop' over nuclear arms



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Published Date: 05 August 2008
ALEX Salmond, the First Minister, has been described as an "international flop" after his efforts to create a separate Scottish policy on nuclear weapons fell flat.
The attack on Mr Salmond came as the Scottish Government published 20 of the 21 responses it received from the 189 letters sent out to the signatories of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT).

But the Scottish Government has made clear that, despite the low response and the fact that defence policy is decided at Westminster, it will push ahead to find ways of removing nuclear weapons from Scotland.

In his letter in October last year to the NPT signatories, Mr Salmond stated that Scotland was against nuclear weapons and having them on the Clyde.

He mooted the idea that the Scottish Government should take up observer status at NPT meetings. He also asked countries to write back if they wished to discuss the matter further.

But of the few responses received, most were simple acknowledgements of Mr Salmond's letter.

The Philippines wanted to ask about devolution and barely mentioned nuclear weapons. A Labour source said the Venezuelan response was a long account of the country's change in constitution that gave its president near-dictatorial powers.

Other responses came from Austria, Belarus, Cameroon, Cuba, Egypt, Guyana, Grenada, Germany, Ireland, Lesotho, Mexico, Norway, Romania, Senegal, Slovakia, Sweden, Ukraine, the United Arab Emirates and the Vatican City.

None directly supported Mr Salmond's call for observer status and only Belarus suggested it might be willing to discuss the issue. However some, including Cuba, the Vatican and Belarus, expressed their support for nuclear disarmament.

The Labour MSP Jackie Baillie, whose Dumbarton constituency includes Faslane, accused the First Minister of trying and failing to pose as a significant figure on the international stage.

She said he had proven to be "an international flop".

She added: "Trying to play politics with an extremely serious issue is typical of the First Minister, and this issue is of huge importance to many of my constituents. Defence is a reserved matter because it affects the whole of the UK, not just Scotland. This exercise in political vanity was a huge waste of time and money.

"Instead of trying – and failing – to ingratiate himself on the world stage, Mr Salmond should turn his mind to reducing class sizes, making our streets safer and helping people affected by the credit crunch."

Annabel Goldie, the Scottish Conservative leader, was also scathing, as she pointed out that nuclear weapons were beyond Mr Salmond's remit.

"Scotland has got two parliaments and two governments, and Alex Salmond needs to stop grandstanding on the world stage and get on with what he was elected to do," she said. But a Scottish Government spokesman insisted that opposition parties who claimed Mr Salmond had been left humiliated were wrong.

A source close to the First Minister insisted that there had been no intention to get any reaction or prompt any discussion with other countries.

"The purpose of the First Minister's letter was to clearly state our opposition and that of the Scottish Parliament, people of Scotland and Scottish civic society to these abhorrent weapons of mass destruction," he said.

"It is all the more important because nuclear weapons are based on Scottish soil against the will of the Scottish people."

He went on to say that the Scottish Government was still looking at ways to have nuclear weapons removed from Scottish soil. A working party is due to meet again this month to investigate further how Holyrood can use its devolved powers to remove the weapons.

"It is wrong to say that this is a completely reserved matter," said the source close to Mr Salmond. "The Scottish Government does have powers in terms of planning and transport that are relevant in this area."

"Indeed, we intend to continue to look at ways in which we can use these powers to remove these weapons."




The full article contains 660 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 05 August 2008 12:09 AM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Scottish National Party
 
1

Angus Ogg,

04/08/2008 23:21:03
Kind of taken a sabbatical at commenting as it so often turns into a hate-fest.

However, this garbage peddled by a failure of a politician who had the apex of her career as the failed Wendy Alexander's apologist takes the biscuit. Well probably she ate the biscuit as well.

When will political failures like Jackie Baillie realise such comments just turn voters off of Labour? Have the Scottish Labour people got a death wish or something? Talk about the longest political suicide note in history.

Reckon the likes of Baillie may be thanked by lots of us, for ensuring that Scottish Labour are transformed from their 2008 heydey as the Official Opposition, to coming third as a political party behind the LibDems in the 2011 Holyrood Election.

Baillie, away an bile yer heed ya big numpty. Return to your constituency and prepare for the wilderness. With any luck, you'll be out of office for 12 years.
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05/08/2008 00:02:40
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05/08/2008 00:07:06
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05/08/2008 00:08:36
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05/08/2008 00:09:53
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ThomasP,

05/08/2008 00:13:00
Lets face it. As long as Scotland is apart of Britain, who is incharge of issues that involve nuclear then I am very suprised Salmond received the response that he has.

Perhaps the British Gov should wise up and realise that we are not some super power in the world and we should get control of our financial problems before we spiral further into debt.

Once the debt is sorted then maybe and just maybe the British Gov should even think about Trident and other matters that are similar.

The money spent on Trident could go further if the money was actually spent for our country, Britain or Scotland whatever way you see it if London stopped thinking the world revolve around them.
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a proud doonhamer,

Dumfries 05/08/2008 00:13:20
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Yesterday, I suggested that PTBS get a new name.. looks like he agreed.
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a proud doonhamer,

Dumfries 05/08/2008 00:17:14
Maggie Broon doesn't need to write letters on his foreign policy .. he just reads the memos from George Bush and does what he is told.

Does this mean that Jackie Baillie continues her support of nuclear weapons in Scotland? Will she be campaigning to support her Westminster masters? After Glasgow East, Labour claimed it would listen to the people of Scotland.. it seems what they meant was the Westminster MP's... same old London Labour!
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Alec M,

Falkirk 05/08/2008 00:19:08
#7 ~ Doonhammer, maybe best just to ignore the little nit.
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05/08/2008 00:23:34
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Conan the Librarian™,

05/08/2008 00:25:30
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Just thought I'd get a comment in whilst waiting for your party trick.
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05/08/2008 00:29:55
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05/08/2008 00:35:13
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Jwil,

05/08/2008 00:42:08
MADDOX AT HIS BEST SINCE HE WAS SLAPPED DOWN AND MADE A COMPLETE FOOL OF BY ALEX SALMOND AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE AFTER THE GLASGOW EAST BY ELECTION. MADDOCKS WHOLE LIFE IS DEDICATED TO RUNNING DOWN SALMOND INSTEAD OF CONCENTRATING ON DOING A PROPER JOB WITH SOME SENSIBLE REPORTING. HOW CAN YOU RUN YOUR PROFESSIONAL LIFE ON THE BASIS OF HATE MR MADDOX?
15

Matt there,

somewhere 05/08/2008 00:55:58
Note to David Maddox: A Labour Party Press Release is not a "A Labour source."
16

An Beal Bacht,

05/08/2008 02:31:16
What does Jackie have to lose in taking a stance that is 180 degrees opposed to what the Scottish people want. She's being consigned to the dustbin as soon as we have the opportunity.
17

Julian.,

edinburgh 05/08/2008 02:35:41
All work and no play makes Johnny a very dull boy!
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Julian.,

edinburgh 05/08/2008 02:36:28
All work and no play makes Johnny a very dull boy
19

Keir Hardie,

Inverness 05/08/2008 03:29:55
I'm no nationalist but this 'story' is pathetic, desperate stuff.
20

W Smith,

Middle East 05/08/2008 03:38:06
Anti-NATO Alex Salmond is a delusional Leftie.

As a kiddy-on economist he would have us believe that its Trident not taxation that stops Scotland from prospering.

Clown.

His decision to put Osama Saeed the Jihadist, who urges mulsims not to cooperate with the police, in charge of getting rid of Trident HAS BEEN NOTED.

Anti-NATO Salmond The Simpleton says:

absence of nuclear weapons = peace

Eh... no it doesnn't you devious Leftie.

If it was that simple countries like Sudan, Cambodia and Rwanda would not have witnessed so much slaughter while the Scots were watching telly!
21

W Smith,

Middle East 05/08/2008 03:39:07
Anti-NATO Alex Salmond is a delusional Leftie.

As a kiddy-on economist he would have us believe that its Trident not taxation that stops Scotland from prospering.

Clown.

His decision to put Osama Saeed the Jihadist, who urges mulsims not to cooperate with the police, in charge of getting rid of Trident HAS BEEN NOTED.

Anti-NATO Salmond The Simpleton says:

absence of nuclear weapons = peace

Eh... no it doesnn't you devious Leftie.

If it was that simple countries like Sudan, Cambodia and Rwanda would not have witnessed so much slaughter while the Scots were watching telly!
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Dave Scott,

'the Ferry' 05/08/2008 06:42:29
David Banks ... grow up eh?
23

Scotindy,

Los Angeles 05/08/2008 07:18:48
The commentary is so PATHETHTIC it is unbeleivable. INDEPENDENCE IS THE ONLY WAY FORWARD!!!!!!!!
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Scotindy,

Los Angeles 05/08/2008 07:19:55
The commentary is so PATHETHTIC it is unbeleivable. INDEPENDENCE IS THE ONLY WAY FORWARD!!!!!!!!
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05/08/2008 07:25:50
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Scotindy,

Los Angeles 05/08/2008 07:32:17
Alex Salmond is the Greatest Leader next to Winnie Weinning. The problem with the press they cannot keep up with the POLOTICS and the people DRIVE IT!!!!
27

Brian M,

Edinburgh 05/08/2008 07:58:58
No doubt the Foreign Office wrote to all of the NPT asking them not to reply.
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Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 05/08/2008 08:42:10
Some very strange bedfellows have supported Twopays. If we are to judge SNP by the company it keeps, then the outlook is very gloomy. I'm delighted to be rid of nuclear power and weapons, of course. Neither is needed in the civilsed world we should be creating. The same applies also to nationalism!
29

Ladiskar Rasnik,

S Lanarkshire 05/08/2008 08:48:37
Jackie Baillie attacks Salmond. Is this news?
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tomislav,

Home 05/08/2008 08:49:20
Mr Salmond, who told you that you may take it upon yourself to say the people of Scotland don’t want nuclear weapons in Scotland or on the Clyde. We are thankfully part of UK and as such accept UK defence policy which includes a Nuclear capability, you do not have the mandate, the right or the license to change this. Please keep your erroneous misleading letters to yourself
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Mr. Lachie Todd,

Edinburgh 05/08/2008 08:50:30
After being labelled an "international flop" I somehow cannot imagine the arrogant and insufferable Alex Salmond taking this rejection to heart, and sobbing his heart out in a darkened room?
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kt mcallan,

05/08/2008 08:59:14
i think that's a typically disgraceful low life response from ms baillie. The amount of money wasted on nuclear weapons that could have been spent by her party on reducing class sizes, improving hospitals etc !That liebour party just does not ever seem to learn from its mistakes
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Senga Jean,

05/08/2008 09:07:44
Scotsman! Please upgrade your software to rid yourselves of Unionist hacks spoiling discussion. Removed should be removed!
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Lesley McDade,

Edinburgh 05/08/2008 09:08:56
No effort for Scotland on this issue would be a wasted effort.

Thanks for trying - the fact that you got more than one response is successful. Besides a "first cause" will always generate an "effect" which may or may not be public. Everyone will have had some form of discussion on this.

As for the whingers - try some positivity - it just might make an improvement in international relations. Are you suggesting or implying that Scotland should not have international relations!!! regardless of whether they are devolved. I believe non-nuclear is an inherent SNP policy - so as they are in power are you suggesting or implying that DEMOCRATICALLY they do not have the right to do that which the electorate put them in power to do. Get real.
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Lesley McDade,

Edinburgh 05/08/2008 09:10:22
No effort for Scotland on this issue would be a wasted effort.

Thanks for trying - the fact that you got more than one response is successful. Besides a "first cause" will always generate an "effect" which may or may not be public. Everyone will have had some form of discussion on this.

As for the whingers - try some positivity - it just might make an improvement in international relations. Are you suggesting or implying that Scotland should not have international relations!!! regardless of whether they are devolved. I believe non-nuclear is an inherent SNP policy - so as they are in power are you suggesting or implying that DEMOCRATICALLY they do not have the right to do that which the electorate put them in power to do. Get real.
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Sula Bassana,

The North Sea 05/08/2008 09:22:02
DEar Webmaster,

Can you not disable repeated postings from the numpties who send multiple rubbish to your list?


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Hmm ...,

05/08/2008 09:25:19
Monitor, could you perhaps just delete all these removed comments, please? They are cluttering up this article.
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Scottish 'N British,

05/08/2008 09:38:23
Being against Trident and not listening to people isn't mutually exlusive. Government's lead. They're expected to see the 'bigger picture'.

Russia at the moment is an ally. Pakistan too. Iran wants a nuclear weapon. North Korea is dumping its, or is it? Libya, remember them?

We give ours up, and still expect Bush to cover us? Hypocrisy.

The anti-nuclear brigade can't have it both ways.




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ochone,

Sauchie, Clack's 05/08/2008 09:44:11
Jackie Baillie, has she surfaced again? could she tell us what Wendy is up to? and what she thought of her going? i don't remember her saying much at the time.

Is is that she doesn't know or doesn't care that she is out of tune with the majority of folk in Scotland over this issue, as with many others.

40

M.Corleone,

2nd Vatican State...... Coatbridge 05/08/2008 09:45:53


Is there anybody in ?
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Bo28,

05/08/2008 09:46:47
Number 6

About Debt. Its entirely in the interests of those who OWN this country to continue the spiral of debt. Firstly the goal is to devalue the pound to be replaced by the Euro with public consent. The second is that despite the myths put out about Central Banks the fact is that the private bankers who are in charge of printing the money in this country (outside of real government regulation) benefit from having the country in debt. Wherever you see 'national debt' you can ascribe much of that to a privately owned central bank somewhere. In order to print money the country 'borrow's from these banks AT INTEREST, and this interest is payed back by the people in several ways, one way being the Income Tax. Watch the free google video 'the Money Masters'.
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M.Corleone,

2nd Vatican State...... Coatbridge 05/08/2008 09:48:10

Good on Eck to stand up and speak out about the Nuclear issue......If we had decent political leaders able to speak the truth before the Iraq war and all the WMD rubbish, we wouldn't be in the brown stuff so much now
43

sisyphus,

Edinburgh 05/08/2008 10:19:35
At least Alex Salmond is trying to disassociate Scotland from the immoral foreign policies of the present UK government. It is time that the Labour Party in Scotland realised that it is these policies (Iraq, nuclear weapons, etc) which are causing many former Unionists to consider the possibility of Scottish independence.
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AllyFraeEmbra,

Edinburgh 05/08/2008 10:34:00
Rats, nearly got my first ever 1000 Comment. (Sorry, but there doesn't seem to be adding anything else to say, i.e. sensible political comment, as it's all been removed
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archie23,

london 05/08/2008 10:34:06
I don't agree with your view but I respect your right to express it.

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Banana Heid,

Ayrshire 05/08/2008 10:38:48
The people of Scotland are right behind you on this.We have no need whatsoever to have these monstrous weapons anywhere near our country. Get rid of the abominations, then when we rid ourselves of the labour party we can bin the nukes too...
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Andra, Dundee,

05/08/2008 10:42:06
Max of 1000 posts.
So fill it up and nobody else can post?
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the_figures_are _fudged,

Galashiels 05/08/2008 10:48:25
If the First Minister is a flop , what does that make Jackie Baillie ?

Last time I saw her she was telling anyone who would listen that Wendy was purer than the driven snow, and the best Leader since Moses.

Aye right.
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Ninian Reid,

Edinburgh 05/08/2008 10:58:16
In terms of international image, can I - respectfully - remind Jackie Baillie of the far from dashing sight of former First Minister Jack McConnell in a dustbin liner of a kilt in New York City from which the Scottish textile industry has scarcely recovered to this day.
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It's life but not as we know it,

The Oort Clouds 05/08/2008 10:59:15
Scotland and Britain need nuclear weapons and should make sure every rogue nation like Russia and Iran know that we will use them without hesitation to defend our interests. The Trident renewal program is absolutely vital.
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wee Jim,

leslie 05/08/2008 11:05:08
who is the administrator?
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wee Jim,

leslie 05/08/2008 11:12:32
I might get this through at last: keep trying boss!
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Fifemeg,

glenrothes 05/08/2008 11:17:58
Scotsman, this is really scarey. Why have so many messages been deleted? It's hard to imagine that every single one of them has broken the rules.
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05/08/2008 11:29:52
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"Hoots" Fandango,

05/08/2008 12:03:21
Who is the idiot?
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Brian Hill,

05/08/2008 12:27:16
Two points:

One, Alex Salmond and the SNP are making a conscious effort to raise Scotland's profile in International affairs, in this case by stating her anti nuclear policy.

Two. Does Jackie Bailley and others actually think they are doing themselves or their London controlled parties any good by deriding Scotland's standing in the world? Whose fault is it that Scotland currently has little or no standing? Who has been in power here for 100 years?

Salmond and Scotland are TRYING to give Scotland a voice in the world whereas Bailley and co are trying equally hard to keep us firmly under London's foot.

Perhap's Jackie should take a trip round Glasgow East and ask the people there which approach they prefer. She might actually learn something to her advantage.
57

Scottish 'N British,

05/08/2008 12:28:20
Will we ever know who is sabotaging these threads?

Why would any Unionist, keen to have a giggle at the fm's expense, want to?

58

Angus Ogg,

05/08/2008 12:28:31
1,000 posts by some educationally challenged idiot.

Well done on The Scotsman for removing the little pain. Hopefully, you will ban the likes of this abusive little cretin for good.

Perhaps he did one thing as far as my own thoughts are concerned....

Demonstartes how so much of the web is infected with hate filled morons bereft of any feeling for their fellow man, nor any thoughts or ability to reason or debate.

Is there any hope for the human race, or is the putrid, purile, pest filled pap that pevades the whole web in the majority?
59

Luke Skywalker,

United Kingdom 05/08/2008 13:28:27
Please will Salmond (and Sturgeon) remember that they lead a minority government. A large minority I do concede but a lot more people voted against him than for him.
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kimba,

05/08/2008 13:45:06
Seemingly non of you can express your opinion without being rude,crude,or down right insultive, so to all you gompers out there here is some facts.
The defence of the UK is down to Westminster,so salmond and his merry men/women can go ring their hands in fear!
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Peter Curran,

Kirkliston 05/08/2008 13:48:28
Before the allegations of censorship against the Scotsman begin over the record number of comments remove, let me say, as an SNP supporter, and one who deeply disagrees with most of what David Maddox writes, that I believe, based on previous examples, that this is not censorship, but much more likely the excision of items that were obscene, abusive or multiple posting of the same item.

I have complained of this in the past to the Scotsman, and I am delighted that they are taking this on board. I believe that the valuable online facility to comment on articles was being debased and devalued by the previous failure to properly moderate incoming comment, now happily rectified.
The online comment facility should not, in my view, be a chatline or forum, but this is what it was turning into, rivalling the worst adolescent chatlines,and effectively burying structured comment on articles.

I have read enough trenchant online criticism of the unionist and Labour positions in the Scotsman online comment to believe that, whatever their editorial policy on contributors to the print edition, they are emphatically not censoring online comment.
Or at least I hope not! But those posting abusive and trivial comments should realise that they leave the way wide open for censors by their abuse of the medium

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OARvE4ZzMCY

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kimba,

05/08/2008 13:49:31
Did salmond not know that defence has NOTHING to do with him,can't wait till Cameron is PM,big on nuclear weapons are the tories!
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Peter Curran,

Kirkliston 05/08/2008 13:50:45
Before the allegations of censorship against the Scotsman begin over the record number of comments remove, let me say, as an SNP supporter, and one who deeply disagrees with most of what David Maddox writes, that I believe, based on previous examples, that this is not censorship, but much more likely the excision of items were obscene, abusive or multiple posting of the same item.

I have complained of this in the past to the Scotsman, and I am delighted that they are taking this on board. I believe that the valuable online facility to comment on articles was being debased and devalued by the previous failure to properly moderate incoming comment, now happily rectified.
The online comment facility should not, in my view, be a chatline or forum, but this is what it was turning into, rivalling the worst adolescent chatlines, and effectively burying structured comment on articles.

I have read enough trenchant online criticism of the unionist and Labour positions in the Scotsman online comment to believe that, whatever their editorial policy on contributors to the print edition, they are emphatically not censoring online comment.
Or at least I hope not! But those posting abusive and trivial comments should realise that they leave the way wide open for censors by their abuse of the medium

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OARvE4ZzMCY
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kimba,

05/08/2008 14:02:49
What a lot of removals.
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Kipling,

05/08/2008 14:04:48
1001 cleaned a big big carpet. Can't you roll up the drops of blood above? A trail of squashed snails leading just to me... Ahem, let me flick back my tailcoat and begin:
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Kipling,

05/08/2008 14:06:01
So that's it. No more comments allowed? Testing, testing.
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Kipling,

05/08/2008 14:07:30
Can't the administrator do something about this. Like roll up all the 'comments removed', making way for a witty remark from myself.?
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himthatknows,

Woodstock 05/08/2008 15:30:29
Can I have my comment removed as well?
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we the people,

05/08/2008 15:46:44
what is going on on this thread? loads of comments all removed. what's the beef?
credit to salmond he is pursuing the correct policy. to hell with weapons of mass destruction, and the fact that he's looking to dialogue with other countries on the issue is very positive. some snide (unnamed) labour persons calling chavez a dictator is vile, and confirms how right wing labour are - social democracy is 'dictatorship' to them they worship the market. they should never be allowed near power in scotland again.
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Jock ex 45Cdo RM,

THORNHILL 05/08/2008 16:12:32
the world is full of 'numpties' who copy trash in this fine free country we live in.
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Jock ex 45Cdo RM,

THORNHILL 05/08/2008 16:14:14
the world is full of 'numpties' who copy trash in this fine free country we live in.
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the reporter,

godalming, surrey. 05/08/2008 17:24:26
Looks like the administrator has had a busy day ! or has the site been knobbeled ??
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Graham Simpson,

Vancouver 05/08/2008 18:43:01
Jackie Baillie... please note that that the issue of nuclear weapons on Scottish Soil is a very serious matter for the majority of Scots and your derision of the Scottish government's policy in reaching out to publicise how we feel about this, is very typical of your party's obeisence to the Whitehall government. As a member of the Scottish Parliament, it would have been more honest and useful to the voter, if you had stated your own thoughts on the subject... but here we have resounding silence.

I commend Alec Salmond on his foray into international politics on this issue. True there is little positive reaction to his campaign but that was not his intent. Alec Salmond is no fool. He had contacted 189 foreign governments and brought Scotland's needs and plight to their attention. Do not think that this does not register in the worlds thoughts and opinions about the UK. I hope that the SNP governments continues to communicate Scotland's thoughts and policies on the world stage.

Jackie Baillie... if you are looking for international flops then surely Tony Blair's disastrous Iraq adventure should qualify him for the 'Oscar flop of the century' with soon to be ousted... Gordon Brown... as runner up.
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akjem,

dundee 05/08/2008 18:55:04
Is the administrator Chinese?

Seriously, Salmond has every right to inform other Governments of his administration's view on nuclear weapons. When he eventually mounts a challenge on the Westminster Warmongers desire to use Scotland as a nuclear launchpad, I pledge my full support. I am not an SNP supporter or sympathiser, however I will critically support any attempt to rid the UK and the rest of the world of weapons of mass destruction. It will of course take time..........but a start has to be made.
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akjem,

dundee 05/08/2008 18:56:45
Is the administrator Chinese?

Seriously, Salmond has every right to inform other Governments of his administration's view on nuclear weapons. When he eventually mounts a challenge on the Westminster Warmongers desire to use Scotland as a nuclear launchpad, I pledge my full support. I am not an SNP supporter or sympathiser, however I will critically support any attempt to rid the UK and the rest of the world of weapons of mass destruction. It will of course take time..........but a start has to be made.
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Suomi,

Salo,Finland 05/08/2008 19:15:30
Okay,so we can see why Scotland requires independance.
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Media 1,

cape town 05/08/2008 20:40:27
Salmond is a flop! tell us something we dont know
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Davie from Irvine,

Ayrshire coast 05/08/2008 20:57:01
The administrater has been busy
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Davie from Irvine,

05/08/2008 20:58:06
Busy admin
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pressure,

scotland 05/08/2008 21:14:21
we should not give this man any more powers until he can does something useful with the ones he's got. we shodul make him pay the postrage charge out of his fat salary and not our hard earned taxes.



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Thomas Aikenhead,

Edinburgh 05/08/2008 21:39:35
What is going on?

What are the hundreds of comments removed b Administrator all about?

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hertscot,

05/08/2008 22:07:41
There cannot possibly been that many objectionable comments.
Salmond was always out on a limb with this, naive, and ignorant, but it is a beautiful dream!!!!

Go on then some one complain about this post!
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The west awake,

Argyll 05/08/2008 22:08:05
I live in Baillie's constituency.

Bring it on!!!
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Liberal for life,

Dunblane 05/08/2008 22:08:22
Lets face it - any bag of wind such as a balloon eventually runs out of hot air and Mr Salmond is no different in this respect.
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Liberal for life,

Dunblane 05/08/2008 22:09:25
Lets face it - any bag of wind such as a balloon eventually runs out of hot air and Mr Salmond is no different in this respect.
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The west awake,

Argyll 05/08/2008 22:10:25
I live in Baillie's constituency.

Bring it on!!!
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Daveunderwater,

05/08/2008 23:36:24
Described as an international flop, by whom?

That would be the unionistas, who couldn't bear grasping the thistle

And ridding our country of accidents waiting to happen

See northern baltic states and nuclear seepage
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Arrow,

edinburgh 05/08/2008 23:36:38
don't you just love a well reasoned debate? clearly the plonker who blocked this discussion is either on something or the Jakie (or Jackie) cannae work her machine.
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Arrow,

edinburgh 05/08/2008 23:37:19
don't you just love a well reasoned debate? clearly the plonker who blocked this discussion is either on something or the Jakie (or Jackie) cannae work her machine.
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Arrow,

edinburgh 05/08/2008 23:37:49
don't you just love a well reasoned debate? clearly the plonker who blocked this discussion is either on something or the Jakie (or Jackie) cannae work her machine.
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Badgerczars,

06/08/2008 09:36:57
What is wrong with bringing the wishes of a countries people to the attention of the world stage? So the response was less than enthusiastic............... they've all got their own issues to deal with, but it should not discourage Eck and his team. Very disappointed with the line taken by Labour and Conservatives. Have they no indepentdant thoughts? or are they too timid to stand up for what their constituents believe right?
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JCA REID,

Annan 07/08/2008 13:16:16
Salmond has no influense at all on there being nucklear weapons on the Clyde. It is a bit rich that "scottish" labour are pro-nuclear since if foot & Kinnock had won elections in the 80's they would have been scrapped as their manifestos clearly stated.
Strange that G. Brown & A. Blair were elected on such promises in 1983 & they now not only wish to keep them but have bigger ones!
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Daveunderwater,

08/08/2008 15:13:16
Good to hear the skirl o the pipes at the Olympic opening ceremony, courtesy of Mains O' Fintray Pipe Band

No Morris dancers though, what a shame ;)

 

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