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Bus parade plan to hail Scots sporting heroes



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Published Date: 20 August 2008
SCOTLAND'S athletes are to be given an open-top bus parade through the streets of Edinburgh to celebrate their success at the Beijing Olympics, it was announced yesterday.
While British athletes will be invited to an open-top bus tour in London in October, City of Edinburgh Council is set to push through emergency plans for celebrations in the Scottish capital to honour Scotland's own Olympians.

Deidre Brock, Edinburgh city council's sports leader, put forward an emergency motion which will be discussed at a full meeting of the Council tomorrow.

She said: "We're looking forward to Chris Hoy's triumphant return to the city. He's a true local hero and an open-top bus parade to celebrate his and his fellow athletes' success would be fantastic.

"I think the people of Edinburgh would come out in force and line the city streets to celebrate that success so we're looking forward to speaking to Chris to see what he thinks. We'll also be in touch with sportscotland and Scottish Cycling to make plans."

Louise Martin CBE, chairwoman of sportscotland, the national sports agency said: "Sportscotland is extremely proud of all of Scotland's 32 representatives on Team GB. We are working with all partners to ensure homecoming celebrations for the athletes who have won medals so far recognise the magnitude of their sporting achievements and, in particular those of Chris Hoy, Scotland's greatest ever Olympian."

An Edinburgh city council spokeswoman said: "This is something we want to do to celebrate Scotland's achievements. We want to get the best route planned so that the maximum number of people can come and cheer on our athletes."

Plans are expected to be based on those of four years ago, when the parade went down Princes Street and finished at the City Chambers.

Scotland's other medal winners – Katherine Grainger who won silver in the quadruple sculls, Ross Edgar who took silver in the keirin and David Florence, silver in the canoe slalom – will also take part in the parade alongside other Olympians including judo's Euan Burton, hurdler Allan Scott and swimmers Euan Dale and Gregor Tait.

Steve Cardownie, the council's deputy leader, said: "An open-top (parade] is the best opportunity we can give for the people of Edinburgh to come out and congratulate Chris Hoy and the rest of the Scottish athletes."

Alex Salmond, the First Minister, will host a formal reception at Stirling Castle for all of Scotland's Olympians and para Olympians.

A spokesman for the Scottish Government said: "The Scottish Government is investigating what can be done for our returning athletes.

"We have a variety of options for a public celebration, but plans are in their infancy at the moment."

The Scottish Commonwealth Youth team, who are due to appear in the Commonwealth Youth Games in Puna, India in mid October, will also be invited.

In a statement, the Scottish Government said: "The idea is that Scotland's young talent can rub shoulders with established Olympians and learn from them.

"It will be a great opportunity for the stars of tomorrow to speak to the likes of Chris Hoy and gain some valuable experience."

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  • Last Updated: 20 August 2008 12:40 AM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: 2008 Olympics
 
1

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 20/08/2008 00:48:53

A "Bus Parade"!! Yer, havvin a Laugh, are you not?

Tell you what Girls and Boys!

"What Charles prat do tell?"

That's IT! Yer, havvin a Laugh!

"Why Charles the Wise one?"

OK! Your Idol will tell all!


Bus? What Bus? what Road? What Restrictions?

Dont take the dreaded Pram!

Watch yer "Bus" don't fall down any holes in our roads, here there and everywhere!

Don't stop yer "BUS" you will get a parking ticket!

Don't expect your "BUS" to travel far, all the roadworks will stop you getting Anywhere!

"Bus" will be on restricted routes, Lothian Transport is Adamant, the cutting of services!

Don't expect "Bus" organization! the 'Aliens' landed and have caused ultimate chaos and fiasco's, we are now all,...

......'BONKERS'! it IS A 'Madhouse'!

'Aye' "Bus Parade",...Right Then!

2

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 20/08/2008 00:55:58

Tell you what! either the Scotsman News is,...

'Havvin-a-Laugh' or the 'Aliens' HAVE Certainly landed!

3rd Sentence ~1, I did NOT repeat NOT! Write,..

"What Charles prat do tell?"!!!!!!!!

I actually Wrote,...

>....."What Charles *PLEASE* do tell?"

Gods Sake!! I am spooked now! :((

3

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 20/08/2008 00:58:12

NO JOKES! or you will get one!, that IS as my DYW says,..

"A SLAP IN THE FACE, WITH A WET FISH"!
4

somerferg,

perth 20/08/2008 01:21:05

Excellent idea I expect to see lots of Saltires flying on that day and no unions rags thank you very much.
5

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 20/08/2008 01:26:20

somerferg ~4,

Dinny be daft now, the 'Medals' will not be allowed on our "Buses" far be-it from taking up a disabled place, the Ban may continue to,..'Air-Space'! :)
6

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 20/08/2008 01:29:34

Just Dinny come to Edinburgh for this, it is a 'nuthouse'!

Better Aberdeen or Glasgow!
7

AM2,

Scotland,UK 20/08/2008 01:37:52
#4 somerferg

How petty! All these athletes are representing Britain. At the Olympics it's Union Flags. At the Commonwealth Games it's Saltires. There's no conflict.
8

AM2,

Scotland,UK 20/08/2008 01:38:49
#4 somerferg

Look: http://tinyurl.com/chris-hoy-two-flags
9

Pocket Dictionary,

20/08/2008 01:46:39

Whatever they do don't let Stagecoach Fife operate the bus. Appears one of their double deckers got jammed under the same Kirkcaldy railway bridge for the fourth time in eighteen months on Tuesday 19th August.

......................
10

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 20/08/2008 02:14:32

AM2 ~7,

Unfortunately, unknown to you, them,.."Flags" come under the 'Ban' for Edinburgh Bus Drivers, not to be allowed on our Buses, as they break civil liberties and discrimination rules, on the ones that want to sneeze!

This IS Edinburgh 2008!,,'Of-Course'!
11

Gabe,

Milwaukee 20/08/2008 05:32:50
Get a life, people. As a (united or not) nation we work hard for our glory. The sun has set on the empire. Don't sully all of our pride with petty chauvinism. I am as proud of being a Scot as the next man, but I am also proud of being from GREAT Britain. Let's keep ourselves great and not descend into foolish bickering.
12

The Daleks,

Longmen 20/08/2008 05:37:44
#7

There's nothing petty about Scotland welcoming home Scottish athletes.

We have a right to be proud of our own, and our cringing/self-hating/servile days are rapidly coming to a close.

Thankfully, veiws like your's will soon be consigned to history's dustbin.
13

Star o' Rabbie Burns,

New Cumnock, CUMNOCK 20/08/2008 05:55:02
Don't you just love our politicians?

They'll arrange an open-top bus tour; they'll surround Chris Hoy like flies round sh^t, jostle to be photographed alongside the man with three gold medals, then, when the fuss has died down - they'll close the velodrome where it all started for him (having virtually allowed it to fall down anyway), thereby making it harder for any present-day Edinburgh ten-year-old to emulate Hoy.

You'll have had your gold medals then.
14

Boy Wonder,

20/08/2008 07:06:24
Typical of politicians to want to bask in the reflected glory of our Athletes. And Alex ... Chris is an Edinburgh lad ... why hold a knees-up in bloody Stirling???

SAVE THE EDINBURGH VELODROME ...
15

Rufus T. Firefly,

20/08/2008 07:20:16
No doubt that publicity seeking opportunist Salmond is working on a plan to get on that bus.


16

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 20/08/2008 07:57:15

Rufus T. Firefly ~15,

The wheelchair place will be already taken, by the protesting mothers, with prams.
17

thomas ferguson,

20/08/2008 08:17:55
baw 2 faced salmond will be handing out Saltires with his photo on them?
18

Vincent-W,

20/08/2008 08:22:43
Star o' Rabbie Burns, Boy Wonder and Rufus T. Firefly,

I disagree with you on this one. It is part of normal protocol and part of the expected role of political leaders to congratulate national success as much as it is part of the job to commiserate with victims of disasters.

As much as some politicians annoy me intensely, on this one they are obliged to rise above party politics and play the leader role.

It has always been the case, how it is viewed publicly often depends on how the media portrays it.
19

Joe,

Glover Street 20/08/2008 08:30:10
#17..He's acting more like el presido every day.. An invitation to Holyrood would have sufficed.
20

Fifi la Bonbon,

20/08/2008 08:30:37
#4 somerferg - "I expect to see lots of Saltires flying on that day and no unions rags thank you very much."

That really is a pathetic attitude, and is disrespectful to the whole team. As somebody else said, we can definitely expect to see Mr Salmond's grinning features on the bus, trying to benefit from the reflected glory, exploiting the efforts of these young people. There's probably nothing we can do about that.

But can we not at least require that he be made to wear a skin tight tracksuit? or even better, running shorts?

Now THAT would be a sight to see.
21

Geoff,

sa 20/08/2008 08:30:53
Great idea- hope there are lots of saltires and Union Jacks! Team GB have performed incredibly!

Rule Britannia!
22

Geoff,

sa 20/08/2008 08:32:08
PS-if Alex salmond doesn't have a UJ i'll post him one express!!
23

Scottie,

South Africa 20/08/2008 08:41:30
Lol, if they need help or advice with this, they could ask us, the bus parade here after the Rugby World Cup was absolutely fabulous.
24

Fifi la Bonbon,

20/08/2008 08:53:21
24 - Did President Thabo Mbeki wear a tracksuit or running shorts as he met the team?
25

donald,

glasgow 20/08/2008 08:59:53
Will it be a Union Jack bedecked London bus?
26

bluehead,

edinburgh 20/08/2008 09:03:29
we cannot get moving in Edinburgh because there are so many people here ,do this bus parade somewhere else and give us peace,frankly there must be many people ,like myself, utterly sick of all this sport,
to have a bus parade in Edinburgh is madness at this time,the city is like a huge rubbish dump with streets being dug up,and of course the maniacal tram system
I cannot recall seeing this lovely city in such a mess
this poor old country is going from bad to worse
27

Nailhead401,

edinburra 20/08/2008 09:05:21
open top bus, ha ha, better bring some brollies!
28

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 20/08/2008 09:18:54

bluehead ~27,

EXACTLY! as I reiterated in #1.

It is like living in a 'loonie bin'!
29

Novascot,

sauchie 20/08/2008 10:02:00
8 AM2.
Thank you for the link to the Scottish Unionist website. If I had doubts about propaganda and unsubstantiated gossip being used as a political tool, that has been dispelled now.
Is there no publication/website in Scotland that gives fair unbiased views and commentries on Scottish Politics?
I have yet to find one. The market is crying out for this and would outsell existing journals.
30

Astarte,

Giffnock 20/08/2008 10:10:43
London is catering to all the athletes in the British squad. Let Edinburgh invite all of them too. They are a Team for the United Kingdom, that's how they left for China and that is how they will return
31

Stirling Sentinel,

Stirling 20/08/2008 10:37:09
How typical that some idiot has to bring Saltires and Nationalistic burblings into a true Team GB event. Just make sure there isn't a Council Workers strike on when the bus parade takes place, although on second thoughts it might serve to increase the number of spectators apart from those on benefit with nothing else to watch apart from TV
32

AM2,

Scotland,UK 20/08/2008 10:46:20
#31 Astarte

The SNP would never invite them! Alex Salmond couldn't even bring himself to congratulate Chris Hoy's two English teammates who won gold with him in the team sprint, instead focusing only on the Scottish duo of Hoy and Edgar.

Compare and contrast Salmond's narrowness with Des Brown's openness...

Alex Salmond: “This is a fantastic achievement for Chris Hoy and Ross Edgar, and Scotland's greatest sporting moment at the Olympics of all time with Scots winning a gold and silver in the same event. This was the Braveheart final, and Chris and Ross did Scotland proud.”

Des Browne: “As with millions across the country, I have been closely following the progress of the British team in the Olympic Games. Chris Hoy and his British teammates’ achievement yesterday in the team sprint was an exceptional feat of sporting excellence. But for Chris to crown it today with another gold and a silver for Ross Edgar is remarkable. It is a great source of pride to all of us in Scotland that Chris and Ross are among the many Scots competing as part of Team GB.”
33

Venachar,

20/08/2008 10:48:59
Does this woman get more money for being "sports leader"? Never mind a parade on a bus that will never get round the diversions, try getting proper sporting facilities in the city! There is a perfect opportunity with the show grounds moving to put in place a proper facility that could be benficial to everyone. Equestrianism, rugby and cricket to name just 3 sports that would benefit from having a shared stadium and could be used throughout the year. Some joined up thinking and co-operation with other bodies is required, not jumping on bandwagons and trying to be a big fish in a little pond.
34

Blindscout,

Fife 20/08/2008 10:49:17
#31 Agreed. But as it is a GB team, our National Government should be sending our athletes around the UK, why should London get all the pride. Oh I forgot they are paying for the next games :-q.

#36 remember it is the Union Flag, not jack, not that you are alone with that error, even one of the Beebs news readers gets it wrong every time.

The artilcle states"A spokesman for the Scottish Government said: "The Scottish Government is investigating what can be done for our returning athletes."

The best thing is copy the cyclists. If you don't have world class facilities, you cannot produce world class athletes. How much training can be done in Scotland, the best facilities are in England (for summer games anyway), or abroad.

Since Edinburgh held the Commonwealth games, our sports facilities have declined, even the velodrome is being dismantled and the Meadowbank and the commonwealth pool are a joke on the International scene. Strathclyde park still has the rowing area, but again it needs a makeover.

Scotland needs pools, athletic stadiums, canoe facilities, veledroms, tennis/badminton courts, gyms et al, in all the major population centres and schools should have sports grounds, gyms and pools available for all pupils, whom should also be encouraged to get off their butts and get active.

It was always know kids copy what sports is on tv. Wimbledon brings out the tennis racquets, golf the golf clubs, cricket the cricket bats, so let the country take advantage of these Olympic Games, with the games in 4 years time and the Commonwealth games to come to start producing the "Great" Britains/Scots we can.

35

Marga,

Fife 20/08/2008 11:03:23
Public Bikeit hire scheme now!
36

Supertramp,

Edinburgh 20/08/2008 11:07:47
I am totally sick of the wingeing my flag is better than your flag, Edinburgh's awful, trams etc ranting.
It is a fantastic achievment, lets have as many celebrations and flags as possible! Bus route should be from City Chambers, via Princess Street along London Road to the velodrome!! ( Oh Dear, but that would bring politics into it.....) Personally I am happy with either the UnionFlag (No. 36 Do you have naval connections - They are the only people I know who get this right) the saltire, or, my personal favourite the Lion Rampant!
37

Nikostratos,

20/08/2008 11:49:59
perhaps only flag which should be allowed to fly is the Olympic flag. Then all the nutters can stop trying to use national symbols to create dissension between people.
38

Number 6,

Germany 20/08/2008 11:53:22
Excellent news. Great to see Scotland honouring it's athletes in such a way. The Athletes themselves wil get a bigger kick out of a parade through their own capital city than going down to London (Yawn).

Scots celebrating Scots, marvellous, although I bet Maggie Brown will have kittens when it hears about this latest show of "Scottish" pride and nationalism.
39

Number 6,

Germany 20/08/2008 11:58:11
#33 Am2 what a pathetic example. Why would Salmond be interested in English athletes ?.

As for Gordon Brown, he has still not brought himself to congratulate our First Minister when he won an election .

Salmond will not make any pro britain pronouncements,
not at least till Brown starts showing some support for Scotland.
40

danielrober,

20/08/2008 11:59:34
# 13 Star o' Rabbie Burns,New Cumnock, CUMNOCK

I quite agree.
41

Stephen Allinson,

London 20/08/2008 12:03:12
Just a sad thought after reading these comments, In London there will be a Team GB welcome home, in Edinburgh a Scottish only welcome home.I think there is a plan for be a Welsh only welcome in Cardiff. So where will there be an English only only welcome home? Oh that's right, England doesn't have a 'national' parliament or government, that would be a bad thing, right?
42

AJ Fife,

20/08/2008 12:12:41
It must be of some comfort to our partners in the 'Union', that Scotland can produce such a worthwhile talent like Hoy, instead of some of our other, extremely questionable exports, such as Gordon Brown, Dennis Neilson and Ian Brady!
43

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20/08/2008 12:18:35
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44

Scottish 'N British,

20/08/2008 12:22:41
4

Must stick in yer craw to see Hoy, Edgar et al flying Union flags.

lol
45

Scottish 'N British,

20/08/2008 12:26:22
18

Salmond had nothing to do with Iraq and Afghanistan.
Salmond had nothing to do with Chris Hoy's success.
46

Number 6,

Germany 20/08/2008 12:35:01
#46 Brown paid for/ contributed to, our military deaths and appalling injuries, in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Brown has NOTHING to do with any Scottish athlete's success.
47

Yeah1,

20/08/2008 12:35:20
Lets hope Salmond and the rest of his government don't manage to force their way onto this bus parade - those on the bus should be the athletes themselves, not politicians trying to bask in their reflected glory.

The same goes for the UK government on the London bus parade - its fair enough for Salmond and Brown to host receptions for the athletes but they should leave the glory and praise to the athletes - they shouldn't try to get publicity for their respective independence/unionist agendas from this.
48

Scottish 'N British,

20/08/2008 12:35:40
38

Disagree.

Chris Hoy is on record as saying his emotion on the podium was due to all the years of effort, support, and the honour of wearing the GB vest.

That means the Union Flag - of course it would be only right and proper to include the Saltire and Lion Rampant....

I love flags - we don't fly them often enough!!
49

Deamhain,

Aberdeenshire 20/08/2008 12:45:56
BORING BORING BORING...Nats this, Unionists that, no matter what the actual subject matter is, let's put a nat/union debate post up here. You lot really must be a hoot to spend time with. Somewhere else you may find interesting though...the Masterchef website has a cracking recipe using British lamb; maybe you could all go there and start a rant about whether that's actually a Scottish lamb, an English lamb or a British lamb. Never mind, you'll grow into yourselves eventually.
50

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20/08/2008 12:48:03
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51

Lianachan,

HIghlands 20/08/2008 13:18:11
Why not go the whole hog and have a full blown, good old fashined British street party with cucumber sandwiches, wee flags to wave (with pictures of the Queen on them) and union flag bunting all over the place.
(Note for the hard of thinking - this is a joke, and comment about the focus on the posting in this thread, which has tended not to concentrate on sport)
52

Nurse,

Edinburgh 20/08/2008 13:55:57
Re comment 15
Gordon brown does the same always seeking some sort of, any publicity to distract from the fact that Labour is dead in the water in Scotland now,and in Westminster, many of its MPs panicked as they arent realy that intelegent and will find it hard to get a proper job when they are voted out.Doesn't it remind one, that it is very like a slowly sinking Titannic. Wake up and smell the SNP coffee!!
Lets celebrate Chris Hoy's success and stop whinging on, personaly it was a disgrace that he would have been banned if he dared to hold a Scottish flag after winning, isn't that so petty??
53

Yeah1,

20/08/2008 14:15:32
#53

"Gordon brown does the same always seeking some sort of, any publicity."

Yes all politicians are the same - this bus parade in Edinburgh should involve ONLY the athletes who actually took part in the Olympics - not politicians such as Salmond trying to bask in their reflected glory.

"many of its MPs panicked as they arent realy that intelegent and will find it hard to get a proper job when they are voted out."

You aren't really qualified to say someone isn't intelligent when you can't even spell intelligent yourself.

"Lets celebrate Chris Hoy's success and stop whinging on, personaly it was a disgrace that he would have been banned if he dared to hold a Scottish flag after winning, isn't that so petty."

The IOC rules state that only flags of competing countries are allowed - Why would he want to hold the Saltire after winning anyway? Chris Hoy was competing for Great Britain, not Scotland, and it is therefore understandable that he was delighted to hold the Union flag after his wins.

When he competes for Scotland in the Commonwealth Games I'm sure he is equally delighted to hold the Saltire after wins.
54

Ugly George,

Edinburgh 20/08/2008 14:23:48
48 Yeah 1
I think we all agree that politicians should not appear on the parade. However I notice that Alex Salmond felt that he had to be present at start (i.e. the t0ss) of the recent Scotland v England cricket match. Normally the t0ss is only attended by the two captains and the match referee.

Alex Salmond needs to be careful here. As far as I rfecall the last politician to do this was Aussie PM, Bob Hawke who took it upon himself to t0ss the coin at the start of an Australia v England test match. England won the t0ss. This of course was the end of his political career. No matter what his govt. did thereafter he was, in the eyes of Aussies, just a useless t0sser.

Unfortunately for our First Minister there is a photo of him attending the t0ss. Private Eye could have a field day with an appropriate caption (suuggestions?)
Many might consider that this is the deserved fate of a poltician seeking reflected recognition.

Why does this site not let me use the word t*ss.
55

In my opinion...,

Edinburgh 20/08/2008 14:24:14
Fantastic! Well done Chris!

Shame Edinburgh Council are set reward his achievement by destroying track cycling in the East of Scotland. Still, the consolation prize is an open-top bus tour and a possible MBE...

It's obvious what he'd prefer instead though. See a short Video of Chris Hoy's arguments to Edinburgh City Council over its plans to downsize and sell off Meadowbank including the Meadowbank Velodrome that was his platform to success.

www.savemeadowbank.org

Also there, sign the e-petition to Scottish Government on the same issue.
56

Yeah1,

20/08/2008 14:36:00
#56

"Shame Edinburgh Council are set reward his achievement by destroying track cycling in the East of Scotland."

Yes, instead of piggybacking onto the success of these Olympians and trying to bask in their reflected glory perhaps Salmond should be concentrating on stopping Edinburgh Council from destroying the velodrome?

Surely that would show that he is really interested in helping Scottish sports and the future generations of Olympic athletes rather than just interested in getting some glory off the back of other people's achievements?
57

Joanna,

Cambs, England 20/08/2008 15:04:00
"Stephen Allinson,London 20/08/2008 12:03:12
Just a sad thought after reading these comments, In London there will be a Team GB welcome home, in Edinburgh a Scottish only welcome home.I think there is a plan for be a Welsh only welcome in Cardiff. So where will there be an English only only welcome home? Oh that's right, England doesn't have a 'national' parliament or government, that would be a bad thing, right?"


Excellent point - I've heard the Beeb refer to Chris Hoy as a proud Scot quite a few times now and that is fair enough. However, all the English athletes are called 'Brits' and never English. No wonder the English get cheesed off when our nationality is forced under the British one and yet the other countries of the UK are allowed to flaunt theirs.

As Sir Winston Churchill once said:

"There is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word, which means more to me than any other.
That word is ENGLAND."


58

AJ Fife,

20/08/2008 15:05:37
Joanna#58,

Quite right girl!

Independence for England ......NOW!!
59

Scottish 'N British,

20/08/2008 15:06:44
57

Separatists opine that Salmond only wants what is best for Scotland.

If that is true, Edinburgh will retain its velodrome, and others will be built too.

Given his stance of gatecrashing on Chris Hoy's spotlight, it is clear Salmond's credibility is on the line.

60

A Clamper,

Edinburgh 20/08/2008 15:19:46
You would think the way some of you are going on about this that it has never happened before. I remember seeing Allan Wells on an open top bus along Princes Street in Edinburgh after his gold medal win at the Moscow Olympics.
61

Scottish 'N British,

20/08/2008 15:21:54
58

DOH!!

The 'UK' homecoming, taking part in London, capital of England as well as Great Britain is, in effect, ENGLAND'S PARTY.

After all, how many of us will take the opportunity of travelling the 400+ miles?

With respect to 'proud Scot this or proud Welshwoman that' - you forget that the overwhelming majority of Team GB are English - it is the Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish who are the minority in the team, just as we are in The Union. Hence the reason commentators tend to make that point.

On a separate note, at least you can console yourself with the thought that a Scottish Separatist agrees with you.

For someone I'm presuming is keen on preserving The Union, that one should get you thinking.

62

Mikey,

20/08/2008 15:32:32
Gawd, it's like reading the minutes of a BNP rally with all these English wannabees venting their spleen!

Enjoy your flags boys and girls. This may be the last time you'll be welcoming Scottish athletes home with the butcher's apron!
63

Joanna,

Cambs, England 20/08/2008 16:03:18
63

The English flag is the Cross of St George not the Union Flag. The Union Flag is the British flag and that includes Scotland.

Also, why on earth do you think I am a member of the BNP? You really are on the wrong track. The Scots go on and on ad nauseum about their Scottishness but feel somehow threatened when the English follow suit and resort to insulting invective about the BNP. Do grow up!

62
"On a separate note, at least you can console yourself with the thought that a Scottish Separatist agrees with you.

For someone I'm presuming is keen on preserving The Union, that one should get you thinking."


I'm not asking anyone to agree with me. I'm also not that keen on preserving the Union if it is at the expense of England and delivers another Labour government to us. But that's another view for another thread.



64

AJ Fife,

20/08/2008 16:12:22
Quite right Joanna! Will I send you down the party membership forms for the SNP?

Also, on behalf of all Scotland, I apologise for inflicting you with the hapless and dispicible Gordon Brown.
65

Lanna,

SCalif desert 20/08/2008 16:18:12
#64 Joanna
#65 AJ
hey, you can come on over to my house...I'll throw an Independence party for you! I like celebrating Independence days! Santa Monica Beach sound okay! ;)
66

Neal! Whit? Haud yer Whisht!!,

20/08/2008 16:19:19
Anybody

Am trying to reply to a comment sm753 posted on the Norway - Scotland Electric Cable but can't find him anywhere.

SM - The reason it was decided by the English to run the Cable via Norway - Nederlands - England instead of Norway - Scotland is because the English are now in charge of it and NOT the Scottish, all economic arguments are invalid in the face of that!!!

Do You See?
67

Joanna,

Cambs, England 20/08/2008 16:24:53
Hi Lanna @ 66

Not seen you for ages on these threads :)) Santa Monica sounds brill - could do with a bit of sun! Shall we have an open top bus as well ?

AJ @ 65

No need to apologise - I don't blame the whole of Scotland for one wayward son! :D :D

Apparently, he's going to be sending all the 'lympic medal winners a letter. How lucky is Chris Hoy - he'll get 3 signed autographs of our beloved leader.
68

Lanna,

20/08/2008 16:34:33
#68 Joanna,
nah, I'll borrow my friend's convertible; an open-top bus is so limiting! ;)
69

AJ Fife,

20/08/2008 16:41:38
#69,

Hi Lanna,

That sounds great. Do you know the Banana Splits and the Pink Panther?
70

Exasperated,

Guildford 20/08/2008 16:51:28
Instead of abusing Salmond for being proud of Scottish sportsmen & women, how about some abuse for the London politicians, particularly unionist sniveller Brown, for jumping on the bandwagon??
71

Lanna,

20/08/2008 16:52:32
#70 AJ,
now, am I the sour grapes messenger girl, here?
72

Scottish 'N British,

20/08/2008 16:54:07
64

"I'm not asking anyone to agree with me. I'm also not that keen on preserving the Union if it is at the expense of England and delivers another Labour government to us. But that's another view for another thread."

Just the kind of reply SNP voters want to hear- England first.

Well the Separatists up here reckon it is 'Scottish' oil that's keeping the country afloat - so you appear to have a problem there, Scots PM or not!!

73

Lianachan,

Highlands 20/08/2008 17:14:51
I love the way a minority of unionists use the word "Separatists" to describe people who want an independent Scotland, since the word is now synonymous with "terrorists" in most modern uses. Not fooling anybody with your pathetic word play.
74

Yeah1,

20/08/2008 17:17:44
#71

"Instead of abusing Salmond for being proud of Scottish sportsmen & women, how about some abuse for the London politicians, particularly unionist sniveller Brown, for jumping on the bandwagon??"

Erm...So when Salmond announces a bus parade and plans to host a reception he is merely 'being proud of Scottish sportsmen & women' but when Brown does the same he is 'jumping on the bandwagon'?? Displaying double standards are you not?

Personally I have said in earlier posts that NO politicians (either Salmond, Brown or anyone else) should be allowed to take part in this parade - it should be for the athletes only, not for politicians to get some reflected glory.
75

Joanna,

Cambs, England 20/08/2008 17:20:00
"Well the Separatists up here reckon it is 'Scottish' oil that's keeping the country afloat - so you appear to have a problem there, Scots PM or not!!"

Gracious I've seen you threatening the Scots Nationalists now you're threatening the English. Dearie me, its your way or the highway.
76

Fifi la Bonbon,

20/08/2008 17:20:38
Why do nationalist stalkers like #51 pick on AM2? It's very intolerant. Makes you fear what freedom of speech and conscience would be like if nationalists had real state power.

Anyway, we need a petition. If Alex Salmond is going to try to claim credit for the British Olympic Team members' success, he needs to be made to take part in photoshoots wearing running shorts.

That's not too much to ask, its it?
77

Fifi la Bonbon,

20/08/2008 17:22:44
Good point, #74.

Why do separatist stalkers like #51 pick on AM2? It's very intolerant. Makes you fear what freedom of speech and conscience would be like if separatists had real state power.
78

Lanna,

20/08/2008 17:31:38
#75 Y,
"Personally I have said in earlier posts that NO politicians (either Salmond, Brown or anyone else) should be allowed to take part in this parade - it should be for the athletes only, not for politicians to get some reflected glory."

excellent point.
79

Joanna,

Cambs, England 20/08/2008 18:17:04
73

When I said at the 'expense of England' I was not talking in monetary terms btw! So, the debate on who subsides who etc etc is not relevant, but thank you so much for 'keeping us afloat' over the past 300 years.

It may come as a shock to you but it is immaterial to me whether Brown is Scottish, English, Welsh or Northern Irish. It is not the man's nationality that I dislike but his policies.
80

Alfie the OK,

Occupied England 20/08/2008 18:36:13
How typical that there will be a Scottish Olympic parade in Edinburgh - and a 'British' Olympic parade in London..... I guess this is yet another example of the Brown Project for the eradication of England as a country - no English parade for the successful athletes of England then, obviously ...... Also, how many times was Chris Hoy described as being a Scot and Bradley Wiggins described as 'Londoner' by the BBC?
81

Joanna,

Cambs, England 20/08/2008 18:44:07
"With respect to 'proud Scot this or proud Welshwoman that' - you forget that the overwhelming majority of Team GB are English - it is the Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish who are the minority in the team, just as we are in The Union."


Wrong, the reason the commentators don't use the word English is because the minority in the Union want to have their cake and eat it.

They are Scottish first British second (or just Scottish if nationalist) but resent any English person that says the same thing or even dares to be English only. Do as we say not as we do just like the current Government.
82

Truely English,

20/08/2008 19:37:33
It is good to see the number of medals won increase today again for Team GB.

Sad to see the comments about Cricket on here.

My goodness, if the English were to bemoan and put down the number of Scottish events, like the Scottish Games held in England, we would be called racist, but it is perfectly safe for Scottish people to abuse English culture all the time.

 

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