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SRU chief McKie on the state of the Union



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Published Date: 09 May 2008
THE support of players was a key factor in the SRU's decision to retain Frank Hadden as the national coach, but Gordon McKie also made it clear yesterday that the board had insisted he must have Andy Robinson and Sean Lineen providing coaching input if he was to take Scotland forward.
Speaking at a media briefing at Murrayfield, the SRU's chief executive expanded on the review process that led the executive board to change the assistant coaches, but keep the head coach after another disappointing RBS Six Nations Championship.

It has come under criticism, notably from the Friends of Scottish Rugby Forum, a supporters group that called for a more independent system of appraisal.

McKie insisted that he would not accept mediocrity from Scottish teams and was convinced in March that change had to be made, but he denied that he had made no discernible difference by effectively dropping only George Graham, the forwards coach, from the management team.

He said: "I don't accept that. We believe Frank is the man to lead the national team at this time, but we have injected a new coaching set-up, and Andy and Sean have first-hand knowledge of many of the players in the tour squad.

"The coaching team had been together for some time and things like complacency, the predictability of drills and training sometimes can set in, and it was also felt that the change should not be restricted to the coaching side, but in areas such as physio, succession planning, performance plan and strength and fitness. The issue of change was not necessarily individual-related, but a wider desire to freshen up the national coaching team.

"We believe that Frank has the support of the players, and while that's not reason in itself for retaining him we believe that by injecting new coaching ideas and methods with Frank continuing to lead it that that is the right blend for us three weeks before we get on the plane to Argentina."

As for the process itself, McKie dismissed the suggestion that it was flawed because the head coach was at the centre of the review.

"The board reviews the national coach's progress, based on a review carried out by me," he explained. "Frank contributes to that process, but that doesn't mean to say it ends based on his input.

"The review process is widened, which entails interviewing other members of the national management team, as well as players, and I spoke to a lot of people I don't plan to name who officially and unofficially gave me their views which enabled me to form a picture of how we performed, which, in turn, was put in front of the board, who then agreed that changes were necessary.

"I feel that's a workable way to review it. We believe the dressing-room is solidly behind Frank at this point in time because I speak to players regularly, and I think they trust me sufficiently that if they were not happy then, as I've had to deal with in the past here, I'd deal with it. There are other ways to review the national team over and above Frank's view."

We would not be drawn on any mid or long-term plans, stating only that another review would be held after the tour. This has led some commentators to suggest that Hadden's future as national coach could depend purely on winning the two Test matches in Argentina, but McKie rejected that theory.

"Argentina is important and let's not under-estimate the challenge. They are ranked third in the world and we're going there with a somewhat depleted squad, but what is important is that we go there and put in two good performances.

"It would be nice to win one of the Test matches, fantastic to win both, but we must go there and compete and come back viewing the tour to have been positive.

"We will carry out a review after June. We were all very disappointed by what happened in the Six Nations. I can't accept mediocrity and it's important that we feel the team can go forward and reclaim a top eight place.

"That's not the be-all and end-all this year, but it is important to us because of the World Cup seedings in December."

The obvious question now is how much credit Hadden would receive if the team did reach somewhere nearer to their potential in South America, and win there for the first time, with such well-known coaches as Robinson and Lineen now being more heavily involved.

McKie replied: "I get credit for having good financial numbers, but I've got a very capable financial director. For me, if you surround yourself with good people you get the credit and the same should apply to the national coach – if he surrounds himself with good people he should get the credit."

It is clear that Hadden had little choice, but to move in the new deputies, but the simple hope of McKie and all connected with Scottish rugby now is that the new triumvirate, with their various specialist advisers, can spark a more successful period for the Scotland team, whoever is in charge.



The full article contains 877 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 09 May 2008 9:39 AM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Flyhalf,

Auckland 09/05/2008 08:24:28
If Gordon McKie does not accept things like complacency and mediocrity then that means he can get rid of 90% of his staff at Murryfield, including himself!!!
2

Red Dykes,

Highland 09/05/2008 08:42:26
"We will carry out a review after June. We were all very disappointed by what happened in the Six Nations. I can't accept mediocrity"

RESIGN THEN, AND TAKE HADDOCK WITH YOU.
3

Venachar,

09/05/2008 08:55:46
"I don't accept that. We believe Frank is the man to lead the national team at this time, but we have injected a new coaching set-up, and Andy and Sean have first-hand knowledge of many of the players in the tour squad.

What is the point of Hadden going to matches? Next time I see him at Murrayfield I might as well give him a white stick.

Psycobable from McKie, his statement is full of mixed messages, not proper leadership.
4

KD,

09/05/2008 09:10:38
Surely this shows how much we need a RUGBY-man as Director of RUGBY, sitting at the top of the RUGBY ladder (not the BUSINESS ladder, Mr McKie) to review the RUGBY!?
5

J.A.,

09/05/2008 09:17:33
McKie relies entirely on Hadden to advise him on rugby issues. He does not trust anyone else and because of this will not get rid of Hadden.
The answer is to get rid of them both. Unfortunately, the question is who at the SRU will stick their head above the parapet?
6

Scotish Exile,

09/05/2008 09:27:42
So he can't accept mediocrity....why then is Lineen still in a job, what has he done at Glasgow, nowt, the best Glasgow can accept is mid table mediocrity, so by McKie's own words Lineen must go, and take his expensive foreign losers with him!
7

Toast,

09/05/2008 09:27:42
It wouldn't be quite so bad if Mckie was a competent business man,but he isn't,quite how the debt is still as high given the income of the SRU is beyond belief.
8

Venachar,

09/05/2008 09:38:22
#6 exile

What have you got against Sean Lineen? If it wasn't for a dodgy decision to award a try to Sarries Haughton Glasgow would have been in the Heineken Cup knockout stages.
Last four games Glasgow have played some very good rugby and that hurts as an Edinburgh supporter.
Suggest you find somewhere to watch Munster v Glasgow this weekend.
Both Lineen and Robinson have had good results with the A team, cream of which was the massive defeat of Ireland.
9

Cynical? Pah!,

09/05/2008 10:00:09
I'm afraid that unless someone out there who has a geniune passion for the Scotland team and its future suddenly decides to shout out for head coach, then we're going to have to put up with Hadden. But remember, we only have two internationals left before theres a so-called 'review'. I just don't know why we have to go all the way to Argentina to prove we're rather limited and need some direction?!
10

Jockbok,

09/05/2008 10:13:07
Is it coming to the point that genuine supporters are hoping that our performances in Argentina are so poor that the paper covering the cracks will eventually fall off?

Get rid of Mckie and Hadden. Mediocrity would be a step forward from where we are now.

If I surround myself (or have them appointed for me) with Jake White and Graham Henry will that make me a good coach? Nope, didn't think so.
11

Wooly_Lad,

Weggieland 09/05/2008 10:56:30
#6 how often do you watch glasgow? SL not only has done a good job, he had to rebuild glasgow when he took over but he has also uncovered some great gems over that period(Rory lamont, Thom Evans, Bernie Stortoni to name but a few). The results have been getting better. We need to redifine what suceess is to the scottish pro teams as if we compare our funding to some of the welsh and irish teams we are not even in the same league. With both teams in with a shout of a top 5 finish and with some good young players on the horizon i think it has been a pretty good year for the pro teams.
12

Sun City,

09/05/2008 11:22:23
McKie replied: "I get credit for having good financial numbers, but I've got a very capable financial director.

This means " we both earned huge bonuses for maintaining a huge debt ". At least you haven't closed the place (yet)like many of your previous " turnarounds". Well done Snatch and Grabbit.
13

Scotish Exile,

09/05/2008 12:26:10
#8 & #11

Was a season ticket holder for 6 seasons until work took me away from Scotland. Try to get back "home" as often as I can to watch Glasgow, but sometimes watching on Setanta is the best I can do.
A few wins on the trot at the end of a season against teams that are already in holiday mode are nothing to shout about, Lineen is extremely limited as a coach...wake up and smell the coffee, mid table mediocrity is nothing to be proud of.
What about the numpties he has brought in, some at great expense, you rather conveniently forgot about them!
Also remember that Leinster and Munster don't take the Magners league seriously, their main aim is the Heineken Cup.

14

chandler-chaftit,

Edinburgh 09/05/2008 12:53:43
#6 I'd say that mid table would be an excellent achievement for Sean Lineen given his pathetic budget and quality/strength in depth of players compared with all but say Connacht in the Magners. Just in the same way that ending 3rd or 4th would be a massive achievement for Andy Robinson versus where we were last September. Whether or not Irish or Welsh teams sometimes give Magners fixtures a back seat, don't take anything away from the fact that both Edinburgh and Glasgow players have frequently punched way above their weight this season. (Do agree that the foreign guys haven't added that much though compared to their cost, which makes the achievement of the rest all the bigger.)
15

Alistair Macintosh,

09/05/2008 13:14:47
He will not accept mediocrity from the teams, only from himself.
"For the benefit of Scottish Rugby I will now resign" - we wish!!
16

Delboy29,

09/05/2008 13:57:08
It is becoming screamingly obvious that the SRU needs to appoint a Director of Rugby (or the equivalent) who will provide a much-needed bridge/buffer between the business & admin side and the playing side. The present situation is unsatisfactory to all parties. Hadden isn't to blame for the fact that he is the direct link to McKie & the board.He has certainly made mistakes (as all coaches do) but much of the flack he has attracted is the result of poor communication/PR skills etc, much of which might have been avoided with the right man in place as Director of Rugby. It probably wouldn't have affected some poor results but we might have had a more coherent explanation of the overall policy, decision-making etc.
17

AlastairS,

09/05/2008 14:18:37
There needs to be a business man at the head of the SRU. Unless it is on a sound business footing (which it has not been in the past) it will get nowhere. The playing side should be left to the head coach. I am not a particular fan of Frank Hadden but at this point who else would want the job. I think puting Lineen and Robinson in the coaching team is a shrewd move. It puts pressure on Hadden while potentially grooming one of them to take over. L and R have done a good job with the pro teams and especially with the A team (15 tries in 2 matches). I sincerely hope they can prevail on FH to play some newcomers (and play them in their correct positions)in the forthcoming tour. Then with everybodys support maybe things will get better.
I am also interetsed in the comments about Leinster and Munster not being interetsed in the Magners. That person obviously was not at the recent match in Edinburgh.
Finally both teams did reasonably in the Heineken. Glasgow came close to qualifying and had Edinburgh been able to slot their place kicks they would have won all thier matches against in the toughest section of the competition.
18

Venachar,

09/05/2008 14:32:54
#13

I am sure Biaritz and Saracens would not want to draw Glasgow again in next years Heineken Cup.

Similarly neither would Toulouse, Leicester or Leinster like to face Edinburgh.

Glasgow were unbeaten in over a year at Firhill and have won away from home several times this year. That is progress.
At least there is some variety in the styles of play between the Magners League teams. The Guiness Premiership is quite competitive but all the teams are a much of a muchness. The Magners League sides have produced the Grand Slam winners, EDF cup winners and possibly the Heineken Cup winners (hopefully).
Dismissing the Magners League is wrong it is still evolving and personally I would like to see a couple of Italian teams included.
I just wish that more citizens of Glasgow and Edinburgh turned out to support their teams. I think it is a good value product and the company isn't bad in either city on matchnight.
19

ken cameron,

mossley ontario canada 09/05/2008 16:07:09


WHAT A CROCK ,MCKIE YOU SHOULD GO WITH HADDEN, ALSO GIVE THE SCOTTISH TEAM A GOOD SHAKE UP.
20

La barrière de Senlis,

France 09/05/2008 19:02:57
#18
Totally agree.
I think the 2 pro teams now NEED a crowd of supporters.
Glasgow and Edinburgh are big Cities and should be a bit more involved with Rugby
The best way to support Rugby in SCOTLAND is to support at games of the pro and international teams.
All the best!
21

Colt,

09/05/2008 21:09:28
3 questions for the CEO that should be posed by the clubs at the AGM:
What qualifications do you have that are rugby-related?
What have been your achievements since you arrived 3 years ago?
Why don't you do the decent thing and leave now before you drag the game any further down?

The answers by the way are that he has no rugby experience of any sort (club/pro/playing/committee); the game at every level is going downhill - international, age group, pro team, club - and if anything things have got worse since he arrived. Oh, except his pay packet has doubled.
22

jdships,

10/05/2008 08:42:53
20 La barrière de Senlis,France

"The best way to support Rugby in SCOTLAND is to support at games of the pro and international teams."

I understand where you are coming from but must disagree with your statement above.
Rugby, or any sport for that matter, needs to be built from the bottom up.
There are many clubs in the lower divisions who are operating flourishing "Mini/Midi" sections where the funding is coming from within the club and often from Committee Members pockets.
This level is where many of our future stars come from .
My own g.son started in an old Div 5 club mini's ( he attended a soccer playing school) and now plays Premier league rugby.
Mr Mckie needs to take a long look at the financial structure of "grass roots" rugby.
By all means support Pro/International teams but please don't forget the unsung heroes who are keeping the conveyor belt of youngsters coming through
23

Venachar,

10/05/2008 11:25:38
jdships

I think you have said before that you do not like the Pro Teams and that you do not like the product.
Well can I just say you have missed a very good season at both Edinburgh and Glasgow.

I was brought up in a non rugby playing area, so do not have an attachment to a traditional club. I have over the years learned to appreciate rugby and have become an avid spectator.
I too have taken my son and the rest of the mini's to Dundee, Perth, Kinross etc, etc. Cost and time did not come into it, it was done to benefit my son and his team.
While you may support your grass roots team most of the finance generated for Scottish Rugby comes via the international set up and spin off from it.
I have supported the Caley Reds and Edinburgh and I believe that it is only in the last two years that the SRU have actually woken up to the realties of professional sport. They had better embrace it properly or they will be left behind. Marketing people get out there!
Nic Cartwright is doing a very good job at Edinburgh and I would recommend you and any others reading this to be IN IT for next season.

 

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