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Glasgow East By-election: O'Brien attacks 'monstrous' embryo bill



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Published Date: 20 July 2008
CARDINAL Keith O'Brien has relaunched an attack on Labour's controversial Embryology Bill just days before thousands of Catholics vote in the crucial Glasgow East by-election, describing the plans as a "monstrous attack on human rights".
The leader of Scotland's Catholics said he was calling on MPs to "search their hearts and consciences" over the bill, which will allow scientists to create 'hybrid embryos', made up of both human and animal tissue.

O'Brien said he welcomed the dec
ision to delay the vote, which had been due to take place last week. The delay sparked speculation that Prime Minister Gordon Brown was running scared ahead of the by-election.

His comments, reported in this weekend's Scottish Catholic Observer, will be read by many members of the faith who go to church today.

Around a third of the constituents in the Glasgow East constituency are Catholics.

O'Brien says: "This delay now gives our MPs time and I urge them all to use that time wisely to reflect on the consequences of their actions and their decisions.

"We are facing a crisis in society and we must ask ourselves is human life important to us or is it not?"

He adds: "I have already written to all our MPs about this bill, particularly regarding the use of their consciences, and now again I call on them to consider the great importance of their decisions."

On the content of the Bill, the Cardinal declares: "This Bill is a monstrous attack on human rights, human dignity and human life."

He specifically addressed the fact that the Bill is also likely to include possible reforms to the 1967 Abortion Act.

Pro-abortion MPs are expected to table amendments liberalising the Act so that, for example, only one doctor is required to give the go-ahead for a termination, rather than two as at present.

He said: "By the time I retire in five years time, approximately another million babies could have been killed in the womb in our country. Another million so cruelly put to death in their mother's womb."

He concludes: "MPs must search their hearts and their consciences in this extra time in which they have been given to decide whether or not the value of human life really matters or whether or not it is simply one more commodity to be cast aside in our throw-away society."

O'Brien's comments come after Joseph Devine, the Bishop of Motherwell, also hit out at Labour over the Embryology bill.

Claims that the Embryology bill was delayed because of the by-election were backed up by pro-life Labour MP Jim Dobbin.

He said: "The likely reason is the enormous public uproar the Bill, with its hugely controversial proposals, has had – particularly in areas such as Glasgow East."

The former Labour MP from the area, David Marshall, told colleagues his mailbag was full to overflowing with letters from constituents attacking the measures in the Bill.

Catholic composer James MacMillan has also hit out at Labour over its failure to respect Catholic values.

Influential Catholic academic Professor Pat Reilly said that the Catholic-Labour link has now been broken.

"Catholics are abandoning Labour now only because Labour first abandoned them," he said.



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truthsleuth,

20/07/2008 00:18:07
Vote No to labour or you will not enter heaven.
When will the Catholic Church enter the Twenty First Century.
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BIG EYE,

Paisley 20/07/2008 00:38:44
For generations in the West of Scotland Labour enjoyed tacit support from the Catholic church.

Now that they appear to have lost this it seems the Church should stay out of politics and not express any opinion even on the most important moral issues.

Interesting Change wouldn't you say?
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a proud doonhamer,

Dumfries 20/07/2008 00:56:49
That hissing sound you are hearing is all the air leaving the Labour balloon.
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Joe wolson,

Glasgow 20/07/2008 02:13:46
So Mr "a proud doonhamer" please set out the SNP view on abortion.
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DouglasT,

20/07/2008 02:42:34
Jo Wolson @ 2.13

The question was posed on thursday's newsnight debate.
Mr Mason said he was against the bill, Ms Curran said she would support the government. Its on the BBC Iplayer.
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KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 20/07/2008 03:23:59
I think the press is overstating the importance of this bill as a deciding factor in how people will vote.

Though there are some that will view this as the most important issue of the campaign, they are a minority of a minority.

Much more far reaching in its impact will be Labours announcement on Monday that they will scrap Incapacity Benefit and Force People on assistance into Unpaid Work.

This will turn what in all likelyhood would have been a reduced majority for Labour into a complete route.
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donald,

glasgow 20/07/2008 07:59:33
Cardinal O'Brien should be condemning Labour, for hosting Trident, attacking Iraq, Ireland, Afganistan and for reducing Scotland to its Current/Curran poverty level and not least for playing the old sectarian card, both ends to the middle. The Roman Catholic minority is bound to suffer most in that game.

John Wheatley, Shettleston ILP, was instrumental in gaining the Catholic vote for Labour, when it was a radical force. As a Republican Socialist, he could hardly be in the same reactionary Unionist camp Labour has become. The Catholic Church in Scotland at that time was against Labour for its radicalism. Now that Labour has sunk so far in corruption to the right all churches should be progressing against Labour for its reactionary, lying policies.

All the churches in Scotland are to the left of the Lumpen Party. Why are the Scottish Muslim churches supporting Labour Terrorism and Imperialism?

Abortion should not be a party issue and left to the individual consciences of a free vote. Labour has no conscience.
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eric,

Lothian 20/07/2008 08:14:43
Away and get your pacemaker sorted cardinal!
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Media 1,

cape town 20/07/2008 10:09:26
Cardnal O'Brien

If you are so keen to uphold human rights then why dont you launch an aggressive campaign to protect all children from their parents religion? Why not campaign to prevent parents indoctrinating the innocent minds of their young, who in truth need not be infected with such nonsense?
Cardinal Obrien, you represent an organisation whose history is as dispicable as the nazi regimes. Why on earth should anyone be interested in you and your politically driven attack on science? You detest science because it reveals the lies you and your ilk have been spreading for millenia.
Go and have a lie down!
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JG,

Fife 20/07/2008 11:46:06
It's Sunday. Has the Cardinal not got a flock to indoctrinate, oops sorry, minister to?
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saneatheist,

Bixter 20/07/2008 12:11:47
Very well said Media 1.
I'm sick to the back teeth of these (unelected) so called "religious leaders" trying to interfere in government policy making.
When are they going to realise, this is not the 17th century, and they no longer have any power or influence.
Catholic Cardinals talking about moral issues? You couldn't make it up.
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TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 20/07/2008 13:22:40
Would Cardinal O'Brien please just SHUT UP!

HE loves the sound of his own pallid palaver and the Vatican mumbo-jumbo that he is spitting out all the time.

Better go back to your confessional, Cardinal, and atone for the sins of pride and arrogance. and lust.
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a proud doonhamer,

Dumfries 20/07/2008 15:26:59
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Each member is allowed to have the ability to support or opppose abortion according to his or her own convictions.

Is it clear now?
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Jimmy the Pie,

20/07/2008 15:39:09
On the subject of Lard Foolkes I was having a look at his expense claims for his attendance at The House of Lords.

http://www.parliament.uk/documents/upload/HoLallowances0607.pdf

For 129 Days attendance he claimed the meagre sum of £77,152!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Utterly unbelievable, £77,152 for what????

If ever a reason was needed to get rid of The House Of Lords it's Fatty Foolkes at the trough - £77,152!!!!!!!
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Eve,

Scotland 20/07/2008 15:50:36
Well someone has to keep on at them?

I belive that other reliogus leader including the Church of Scotland top man or is clergy has also spoken out aganist this in the past to.

I'm no member of any church for a highly personal reason. But I think it's good that these people can speak out against thing that look as if they are unmoral.

Personaly I'm a wee bit worreid about who far this tecnonolgy will go. I really don't like the idea of messing about with nature. You only have to look at the feeding of bits of cattle and other animals to cattle and the BSE problems we had last decade, to have a vaild consern about these things.
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Brian Hill,

20/07/2008 15:55:56
Yet another problem for Labour to overcome. When we look at the reasons for not voting Labour they do seem to be outweighing the reasons for voting Labour.

No matter what we think of the Catholic Church's attack on Labour the fact is Labour have benefitted considerably for decades from Catholic support.

This could well be the final nail in Labour's coffin.
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Canadian Jambo,

20/07/2008 16:03:38
I love all the nasty nick-names that descend on the Labour Party -Liebore, Lumpen Party, etc. Is there one for the Scot Nats? If not, how about Snot Prats?
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Media 1,

cape town 20/07/2008 16:38:55
Isnt it funny to note that in Obriens life time he will see science cloning human beings. He will see cyborgs and holograms and he will hear the entire world speaking about the bible as some ancient ficticious book filled with a couple of horror stories.
He will also see the world ridicule religious men who wear silly hats and daft robes. He will also see people spitting on the popes ring as opposed to kissing it. Oh how nice it will be to see people shun this god entity.
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Al Ford,

Insch 20/07/2008 16:40:13
It seems clear that the Catholic Church perceives the Labour Party's Human Fertilization and Embryology Bill to be a complete and utter anathema and an evil which must be opposed by all means at its disposal. This is a perfectly legitimate view for it to take and to express.

It is not the case, I think, that the Church is at war with the Labour Party. The Church merely does what in conscience it must do. The Labour Party has placed itself in direct opposition to the Church on a fundamental issue which is dear to the Church and upon which it cannot give ground. As the Labour Party has not withdrawn from the position which it has adopted but has merely indulged in a little rescheduling, a collision is inevitable. That collision is about to occur, and the 30 per cent or so of the Glasgow East electorate who are believed to be Catholics may well feel obliged to vote in accordance with their conscience. In this by-election the importance of the moral dimension should not be underestimated.

The Labour Party was given fair warning. It has only itself to blame for what will happen now. Those of its remaining supporters for whom the term "moral dimension" has not lost all vestige of meaning will understand this. The others will not and will go on voting Labour, no doubt, as a political party which has become morally bankrupt will doubtless suit them very well.
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Cadgers,

Perth 20/07/2008 17:16:52
#9 Well said Donald. It seems he's only getting his wee preesty robes in a twist over this one issue. NOT very honest.
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BIG EYE,

Paisley 20/07/2008 19:32:55
Is it not remarkable how intolerant Labour supporters have become when they cannot recognise that all Cardinal O'Brien is doing is exercising his right of free speech on an issue which his church feels is very important.

How sad for Scotland if we let those who devalue human life to determine our future.

I am not a Catholic but greatly admire the value on life that the Catholic church are defending in the face of such virtolic attack.
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Media 1,

cape town 20/07/2008 19:46:48
BIG EYE

Firstly, Obrien is not in favour of placing value on life, if he was, then every child in the world born into a home of catholic parents would be free of indoctrination. If he was really interested in the preservation of human integrity then he would insist that nobody under the age of 16 would be permitted to become a catholic. But when you support the idea of poisoning the mind of a child with religious dogma without their consent, you are exposing yourself as a person who will do what it takes to maintain power at all costs.
It is illegal to smack a child, it should also be illegal to take a child to church, introduce them to the bible or send them to sunday school.
Science is what Obrien fears because science will create a new mindset that will make the god entity obsolete. And when that happens, what power does the Vatican have?
Think about it, I mean really think about it. The reason they want this stopped is because the next stage is human cloning, cyborg creation and holograms. IT WILL HAPPEN! We will find other planets and we will clone life in the image of ourselves,because its easy to do so once you know how. You dont need some divine mythical man in the sky.
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Willie Mor,

20/07/2008 21:28:26
The creation of hald human half animal embryos is something that people of all faiths and no faith are uncomfortable with.

For Labour, it is all to do with business profits, and there is no ethical issue for the government, save for getting the parliamentary vote moved away from the Glasgow East by-election.

The Cardinal is right to raise this issue, and he is not alone in his condemnation.

However, as events have shown, the Labour Party will seek to assert the business interest to the exclsuion of all else. Not for them the hindrance of human morality.

Indeed, if there was a business opportunity for the provision of timely executions of people deemed past their sell by date, and a directorship to follow for services rendered, then you could gaurantee that this Labour government would support it.
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Boy Wonder,

20/07/2008 22:03:42
Religion has NO place in politics and even less place in Science!

O'Brien needs to learn that his superstition and
stand against condoms cost more lives than it has ever saved!

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BIG EYE,

Paisley 20/07/2008 22:29:33
Every time you post I am delighted you live outside my country.

We are a better people for your absence!
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BIG EYE,

Paisley 20/07/2008 22:32:30
Apologies I should have made clear my answer was for media one our cloning expert from Capetown!

Lets hope there is never two of you!
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connaughtboy,

stonehaven 20/07/2008 23:49:16
No AM2 on this thread?

 

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