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'Good Catholic' Cherie's birth control clash with church



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Published Date: 21 May 2008
CHERIE Blair appeared to challenge Catholic teaching on artificial birth control yesterday as she defended the use of contraception and spoke about its impact on women's lives.
Mrs Blair, who described herself as a "good Catholic girl", said the ability to control their fertility had "changed" women's lives, in an interview on GMTV with Lorraine Kelly.

Her remarks came after Ms Kelly told Mrs Blair e-mails from viewers
referred to her contraceptive arrangements following an admission in her memoirs that she had not packed her "contraceptive equipment" for a visit to Balmoral, which resulted in her pregnancy with her youngest son Leo.

Mrs Blair said: "People seem to be quite shocked that perhaps a Catholic girl even uses contraception. But it is really an important thing for women because one of the things about the book is about how women's lives have changed.

"One of the reasons women's lives have changed is that they have been able to control their fertility it is an important issue."

Mrs Blair's remarks came after she spoke of the ten "fantastic" years she had enjoyed in Downing Street, a time when she had met the Queen and two Popes.

She said meeting two Popes was a "huge thing" for a "good Catholic girl."

Her remarks on contraception come after a strong defence earlier this month by pope Benedict XVI of the 1968 Papal letter Of Human Life, a controversial document written by then Pope Paul VI which set out the Church's case against artificial birth control.

Last night John Deighan, parliamentary officer for the Catholic Church in Scotland, said the use of contraception had resulted in a decline of moral values.

Describing Mrs Blair as being "misled", he urged her to re- examine her faith.

He added: "We have that brand of Catholic that think they can redefine the Church's teaching for themselves and she falls into it.

"Since the 1960s, the contraceptive mentality has had a huge impact. Cherie Blair has had her values formed by that cultural change.

"All the things Pope Paul Vl predicted about the decline in morality in society (have] come true.

"(Mrs Blair] needs to examine her faith more and come to a better understanding of it.

"She would see the damage that would come about from rejecting the Church's teachings."

However, charities rounded on the Church's stance yesterday and stressed the importance of having impartial advice on contraception.

Simon Blake, chief executive of Brook, the young people's sexual health charity, said:

"The availability of contraception has revolutionised the ability of women to control and manage their sexual and reproductive health.

"Contraception is legal in this country and it is really important that young people in education know they have a right to contraception and there are health benefits to contraception.

"Providing young people with access to sexual health services is absolutely crucial so that they get the support and information to look after their health."

Tony Blair, the former prime minister, was received into the Catholic Church shortly before Christmas and gave a public lecture earlier this year at Westminster Cathedral.

The Blairs have brought up all four of their children as Catholics. And yesterday, Mrs Blair revealed their youngest son, Leo, who also celebrated his eighth birthday yesterday, made his First Holy Communion at the weekend in Westminster Cathedral.

In her interview, Mrs Blair heaped praise on the Queen, speaking of her kindness towards her.

"The Queen was very kind on a number of occasions, including letting me bring my mother to one of the events I went to and being very nice to my mum," she said.

Mrs Blair said it was a "very special thing" to go to Balmoral, adding: "The Royal Family were very kind and welcoming and did a lot to put us at ease.

"The Queen, in particular, was very kind to me and I shall forever be grateful for that."

Asked if the publication of her memoirs, Speaking For Myself – which was published last week – undermined Gordon Brown, Mrs Blair said it was not a political book but was a "woman's book" about her life.

BACKGROUND

CATHOLIC teaching on contraception and abortion has been anything but consistent over the years. What most people think of as "the Catholic position" on these issues dates from the 1930 encyclical Casti Connubii of Pope Pius XI. Prior to that, church teaching was an amalgam of various teachings. The Pope decided to tidy up the tradition and change it by saying that contraception and sterilisation were sins against nature and abortion was a sin against life. Earlier this month Pope Benedict XVI strongly defended the 1968 Papal encyclical Humanae Vitae, the controversial papal document against artificial birth control. For most adult Catholics, this is the clearest pronouncement by the Church on the immorality of contraception, written by Pope Paul VI, who taught that marriage requires of a "husband and wife an awareness of their mission of responsible parenthood".





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  • Last Updated: 20 May 2008 9:31 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

A McBay,

Edinburgh 21/05/2008 00:38:13
Why all the fuss about this now? Back in January, Cherie said the same - and more - in a BBC World interview at the time of the Davos summit.

She attacked the Vatican’s ban on contraceptives, despite Tony's recent conversion to Catholicism.
Asked if it concerned her, she said: “One of the factors that has led to the increasing empowerment of women across the world is the fact that women have much more right to control their reproductive health.
I think that’s a very important issue, because when women are condemned to a life of constant childbirth and miscarriages it’s a drain on their resources.
I am lucky enough to come from a country where access to contraception is freely available and it’s an important thing in allowing women the proper right to develop as full human beings.”

She has also previously made clear that she does not regard the Vatican as infallible. “The church isn’t just about the Vatican. It’s about all of us,” she said.

This was in January, on the BBC and reported in the Times and elsewhere.
2

Marky Bhoy,

Dunfermline 21/05/2008 00:38:15

Please shut up Mrs Blair you are either a Catholic or you are not .

To be a Carholic you have to go with the whole doctrine of the faith ( EVERY BIT )

I choose to do that if you disagree fine but tough I am not going to change my mind .

What she has to realise is being a Catholic is not like subscribing to a Marshall wards Tick book ( My Mums phrase ) you cant pick and choose you must accept the whole thing or nothing

Being Catholic and politicaly correct does not belong in the same sentance
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Teofilio Cubillas,

21/05/2008 00:42:48
God save us from religion.
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Canadian Jambo,

21/05/2008 01:18:58
The Catholic Church? Wrong on most issues throughout history. Spare us their moralizing.
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 21/05/2008 01:28:55

Some choose not to listen to what their,..

'Heart is Saying',..some do!

To 'Mock' those that do, maybe your downfall.

To 'Not' Listen, maybe your downfall.

I am Glad I to have the most Precious thing in my Life,..

And That IS LOVE!
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Scottish not British,

21/05/2008 01:32:37
Is there nothing this woman won't do for a bit of publicity?
Her insincerity and willingness to use religion as a tool is quite shocking and her fondness of divulging private information (that frankly most people really don't want to know)is as yet to be equalled. She's gone out of her way to cause controversy to sell that glorified crap she calls her autobiography.



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Bejjy,

21/05/2008 04:00:49
Now I'm not religious but I'm with the Gatholic church on this. The repugnant Mrs Blair is still telling porkies in that she states that she is a good gatholic girl when she is neither a good gatholic or a girl.
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Tatties ower the side,

Johannesburg 21/05/2008 05:52:05
#2 Marky..... Your comment reveals the problem with the whole situation. Blind faith in rules that were made in a different era for a different purpose (i.e. to boost the size of the congregation and the offering plate!)

If there were more high profile people like Cherie who would speak out the Catholic Church might just drag itself into modern day relevance!
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Son of Loki,

The Dark Side 21/05/2008 06:17:32
It's a shame Mrs Blair's parents didn't think like she does. If so we might have been spared one of the most awful people on the planet, two for that matter.

Is Tony still converting to catholicism? I might as well. You know, get a priest to absolve me of my sins just so as I can go out and commit them all again.

Conformist churches really are behind the times.

Here's something they don't tell you.

You don't need a priest or a minister to confess anything to God, you can tell him yourself.

I thought the whole point of Christ's sacrifice on the cross was to bring us closer to God the father as individuals. The reason the churches don't teach you that is because the catholic church and the protestant church are just organisations run by men and women who want to exercise power over the masses.

Even with all of the unholy things the catholic church has done it seems to think that if they just say sorry then we, the masses, will say 'That's okay, everyone makes mistakes'

How many children have been physically, sexually and emotionally abused by the catholic church? Tens of thousands. The white slave trade to Australia during WWII. Children who were evacuated from cities were told, by the catholic church, that their parents were dead and were 'given' to homes in Australia where these children were no better than slaves.

But it's okay, the catholic church is really sorry and promises not to get caught again.

So Cherie is a good catholic girl who uses contraception. No she's not, she's just another pious person who makes the rules up to suit herself.

I'm not against contraception, or catholics for that matter but Cherie, like any politicians wife, knows how to 'Talk the Talk' but clearly doesn't know how to 'Walk the Walk'.

We'll all stand before God one day, I believe the day is called 'Judgement Day' can't say as I'm looking forward to it myself (Got a lot to be judged upon) but hopefully, just hopefully I'll be in the queue behind
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Son of Loki,

The Dark Side 21/05/2008 06:19:31
behind Cherie and her ilk

Stay alive people, it's the only way to live

Loki Jnr
17

Royster,

21/05/2008 06:35:37
I soooooo didn't want to know about Cherie's birth-control tricks.
18

Me, myself and I,

21/05/2008 07:30:30
Cherie a pious, two faced hypocrite?

Are we really surprised?
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paulr,

edinburgh 21/05/2008 08:12:48
#2
"Being Catholic and politicaly correct does not belong in the same sentance "
Apart from atrocious spelling, Political correctness or PC is driven mainly by religious fanatics such as yourself.
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sam the god,

21/05/2008 08:15:52
I think she is quite right to publicise the various forms of birth control in the long term it will help reduce the cost to the taxpayers how many young girls end up pregnant and then expect a council house and the taxpayers to subsidise their lifestyle.
21

Filosofo,

Kirkcaldy 21/05/2008 08:34:32
#7 -what are you on about, Charles?
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Filosofo,

Kirkcaldy 21/05/2008 08:34:44
#7 -what are you on about, Charles?
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Cadgers,

Perth 21/05/2008 08:34:51
"the use of contraception had resulted in a decline of moral values. ".....

Well obviously using contraception certainly lowered the
Blairs "moral values".

If they ever had any to start with that is.
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Filosofo,

Kirkcaldy 21/05/2008 08:35:24
#7 -what are you on about, Charles?
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 21/05/2008 09:14:54
Filosofo @#21/22/24,

Have a little think, there is a 'message' in what I say re:#2 and this subject.
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AJ Fife,

21/05/2008 09:21:34
If Cherie is a "good Catholic girl" like she says she is, why doesn't she get a couple of Jesuits round to exorcise her possessed hubby!

Anyone who revels in the slaughter of millions, like Mr Blair, surely must have the mark of Satan?
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scottish person,

paisley 21/05/2008 10:17:36
I cant believe that someone sha***d her.
I certainly dont want to know about the ugly wendy mouth's sex life.
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James,,

21/05/2008 10:25:32
I'm not sure what the purpose of the "background" piece in this article is, but it is fundamentally wrong.

Papal encyclicals in the 20th century may have formalised Church teachings on abortion but they certainly did not change it. The Catholic Church has since its very beginning been against abortion.

From the "Didache," or "Teachings of the Twelve Apostles," 80AD:

"You shall not procure abortion. You shall not destroy the newborn child."

Abortion was condemned by the "Epistle of Barnabas," (138AD), and "A Plea on behalf of Christians," by Athenagoras (177AD).

In "Apologeticum," (197AD) Tertullian wrote:

"To prevent birth is anticipated murder; it makes little difference whether one destroys a life already born or does away with it in its nascent stage. The one who will be man is already one."

In 374AD, St Basil wrote in a letter to Bishop Amphilochius:

"A woman who has deliberately destroyed a fetus must pay the penalty for murder... Those also who give drugs causing abortions are murderers themselves, as well as those who receive the poison which kills the fetus."

The Church's teaching on abortion has not changed since the first century AD.
29

Anglofile,

21/05/2008 10:36:45
When Mrs Blair opens her mouth or smiles, that is the best contraception advert you can get. Ugly isn't she?
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Ken S.,

Reading 21/05/2008 10:42:31
Who the hell does the Pope think he is, taking a different religious viewpoint from Mrs Blair?
;-)
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AJ Fife,

21/05/2008 11:03:47
#29,

I suppose old TB gets past that by pumping her canine style....which seems a very appropriate method....

Jeez, the words that are banned......
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wayne bijlyeerheid,

21/05/2008 12:29:32
Why aren't the jesuits collecting and arranging proper Christian burials for the used condoms that litter our parks and cemeteries?
33

no-name,

Edinburgh 21/05/2008 12:49:26
and Tony is a Good Socialist Boy!
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Calum Crubag,

21/05/2008 12:49:30
Simple Mrs Blair, ditch the superstition.

The deluded religious would ultimately have us living in a world where women were simple baby-machines, nothing but worship happened on the Sabbath, there was no 'sekks' before marriage, science was restricted (no hybird organs but mechancial 'frankenstein' pacemakers are OK for Catholic hieracrchy like Cardinal O Brien) , people were stoned to death for adultery and taking part in theatre (seriously! Check the Wee Frees!) and much more.

Religion = dark age nonsense
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James,,

21/05/2008 13:02:33
#32,

You shouldn't display your ignorance by asking such a stupid question.
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williamx,

d 21/05/2008 13:21:55
Ah yes and the sun does revolve around the earth.
Ah yes and god created the earth in 4000 BC.
Ah yes and 50% of the native children in Canada handed over to the tender mercies of the churches died under their tender care.
Ah yes and the catholic church would like the good catholic girls to perform as protein machines.
In the modern world of knowledge, the churches are irrelevant.
37

CRBAbdn,

Aberdeen 21/05/2008 13:41:08
"The Blairs have brought up all four of their children as Catholics."

As Richard Dawkins says in “The God Delusion”, it is unfair to bring a child up in any religion. Bring them up without reference to any particular god or gods then let them make a decision on which they wish to follow once they are old enough to form an opinion. That way, kids aren't brainwashed and are able to form an objective view on which religion is most applicable to their views on life. Of course, if that happened, any sane child would reject religion and put it in the same box as the tooth fairy, only far more dangerous and with far more blood on its hands. The only way to perpetuate the religious myth is to start them young when they are too innocent to question the lies they are being fed. Thankfully, I did question the lies and the answers made even less sense...
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Jock MacTamson 2,

On his Soapbox in the Highlands 21/05/2008 14:46:16
I am left unable to decide who the biggest hypocrites are Catholic Church or the Bliars.

One caused the murder and destruction of hundreds of thousands of people while on a power trip to enslave the masses with their lies and false doctrines while claiming the loftiest of moral high ground for their actions and the confident belief they are carrying out the work of God. All the while they did not directly put themselves nor their families in danger they expected the common people to do their dirty work while they sat at home on their elitist backsides and spending most of the money collected from the people to sustain their evil regimes.

The other did all those things too but over a longer time span. No wonder they have joined (dark) forces.

I despair at the comments from the blind sheep about following the teachings of the Church. I assume Marky Bhoy #2 like many followers of religion unconditionally conform publicly to the position of the church but in private he would be a strange Bhoy indeed if he never used a Condom ever.

The comments about you cannot pick and choose but must accept the whole thing is total rubbish and completely the opposite of what the Christian Church has done. The First Nicean Crede in 325AD when they sat down and discussed what went in and want was out of Christianity had nothing to do with the contents of the bible and much more like a Christian “Marshall wards Tick book”. Changing the religion to suit is what happens. Newsflash its all made up by strange wee men.

Every religious cult since the beginning of time is full of men who are obsessed with Womens Bodies, Womens Virginity, Womens Sexuality, Womens Monthly (Curse), Womens Clothing. It tells us more about their misogynistic attitude than it ever reveals any facts about any God. Gets some history books. Get some theological books. Get down to some serious reading and see clearly the picking and choosing of different cultural and religious positions throughout histo
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Jock MacTamson 2,

Highlands 21/05/2008 14:47:02
continued from #38 above

and how they have always been more about control and power than eternal life in heaven. Let the Doctors and Women decide what is best for them not some tribal sand dweller. If we cannot evolve we are no better the Islamists.

Have some thoughts all of your own. Think about the sources of the divine revelations. Total Rubbish.
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jamurai,

21/05/2008 14:54:14
#14 Pray tell... What is "modern day relevance"?
and Crubag- "Religion = dark age nonsense" Your own well-considered (I'm sure) opinion. Such opinions however, patently intended to be inflammatory, would be best kept to themselves. Live and let live eh?
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jamurai,

21/05/2008 14:55:55
oh and I may be one of your "innocently deluded" Crubag, but you are nowhere near the mark with my idea of a perfect world mate.
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James,,

21/05/2008 15:39:40
#37,

If Dawkins says it, it must be true I suppose.

"Bring them up without reference to any particular god or gods then let them make a decision on which they wish to follow once they are old enough to form an opinion. That way, kids aren't brainwashed and are able to form an objective view on which religion is most applicable to their views on life."

Religion should inform your "views on life," not vice versa.

"Of course, if that happened, any sane child would reject religion and put it in the same box as the tooth fairy, only far more dangerous and with far more blood on its hands. The only way to perpetuate the religious myth is to start them young when they are too innocent to question the lies they are being fed."

Absolute nonsense. Many people who are atheist come to believe in a diety. Malcolm Muggeridge, CS Lewis, John Dobson, Ted Turner and Anne Rice are just a few examples. I suppose they are (or were) all insane?

"Thankfully, I did question the lies and the answers made even less sense..."

It sounds like you have been asking the wrong questions then.



#38,

Could you just give me a quick run through of what was decided at "The First Nicean Crede?" I didn't realise they picked and chose what bits of Christianity they wanted to believe in.
43

sam the god,

21/05/2008 15:43:07
Just remember that Mrs blairs farther was a porn star a good catholic upbringing she had.
44

Joe Macdelta.,

21/05/2008 15:47:06
Why does this woman think that anyone cares about her and Tone any longer, he had his day, and we have heard enough about her, so give us some peace please.
45

CRBAbdn,

Aberdeen 21/05/2008 16:07:08
#42 No, you deliberately misinterpret what I say. Far from me saying “If Dawkins says it, it must be true” it’s generally a case of religious people saying “if the Bible says it, it must be true”. I have read Dawkins and agreed with parts of it and questioned other parts. I’ve read parts of the bible and questioned all of it and put in serious thought about what it says. I NEVER believe what I read out of blind faith and if it doesn’t make sense, I’ll question it. Can you say the same thing?

I fundamentally disagree about religion informing views on life. If you teach a child that a big man in the sky built the world, can see what you do and will punish you when you die if you are bad, they will believe you. Is that fair? Given the flawed nature of much of what the bible tells us, is it fair to teach someone who doesn’t have the capacity to question what they are told?

What questions should I ask? How about, if I cause death and injury to a hundred innocent people by my actions, I would be made a public hate figure and held to account for my crimes. When an "act of god" kills and injures hundreds of thousands of innocent people, why do you pray to that god and worship it? I’m not trying to be smart or rude; I just don’t understand how that works. Practically the only explanation is that you are scared of god and think that you can stop the same happening to you. But surely god doesn’t want you to be scared of him? Or is it that playing on your fears is how religion works?
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Montford's Jaicket,

Still here 21/05/2008 16:14:07
Cherie who?
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Neal! Whit? Haud yer Whisht!!,

21/05/2008 16:16:44
No42, James

I was born and raised without ever being baptised or brought to ANY church other than the usual Harvest Fest's etc at school.

Therefore my 'views on life' have decided my religios views, which, surprise surprise, DO NOT lean toward christianity.

And as for the Council of Nicea? try this site, it's a BBC site so should be reasonably unbiased.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A307487
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The Spook in Leith™,

21/05/2008 16:29:50
Im fed up reading about the catholic church, its a minority church and its views are in the minority..end off...
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Calum Crubag,

21/05/2008 19:36:33
40-42 - if your God and faith are so strong, why do you feel the need to brainwash kids? Why not leave it until they are old enough to think and find out for themselves?

And why, if religion is so personal and private, do bible-bashers want to have it in schools and politics?

And, how many of us could live by the bible? Should we still burn bulls on altars? Stone adulterers to death? And, where in the bible does it say that the pill is sinful?
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John Blackley,

Florida 21/05/2008 20:12:10
I don't really care what religion Mrs. Blair is. Nor do I care to know her 'views' on contraception. I do understand why she has to go on television to pump up sales of her book but I don't understand why her puffery has to be reported in The Scotsman.

 

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