Scots should control fair share of oil, says Michael Portillo
Michael Portillo said 'What I have in mind is full fiscal autonomy for Scotland ... full authority for Scotland to raise its own taxes and ... the end of UK subsidy to Scotland'
THE UK government should give Scotland an “appropriate” share of North Sea oil and gas revenues to preserve the Union, according to the former Conservative cabinet minister Michael Portillo.
Mr Portillo told The Scotsman the UK government should take control from the SNP of the debate on Scotland’s future, and that England was “sleeping while events go on north of the Border”.
He said he did not think there was an appetite for independence in Scotland – and that “in his heart of hearts”, First Minister Alex Salmond knew he could not deliver it. Mr Salmond, he said, was playing “a new game where he pretends he’s after independence but hopes we settle somewhere in middle”.
The former defence secretary – who was once tipped to become prime minister and who still wields huge influence as a political commentator – called on the UK government to offer the SNP full fiscal autonomy, adding that Scots would find this difficult to refuse, so maintaining the Union.
“What I have in mind is full fiscal autonomy for Scotland, which would require the settlement of the division of oil and gas between England and Scotland, full authority for Scotland to raise its own taxes and to set its own rates of corporation tax and income tax, the end of UK subsidy to Scotland and the settlement of the West Lothian Question.”
He added: “You would be trading whatever share was deemed appropriate of oil and gas, which is a declining resource, whose price is very volatile, against the certainty of UK income.”
His comments are at odds with those made by Chancellor George Osborne, who said on Friday that the ball was in Mr Salmond’s court on an independence referendum. Mr Osborne said yesterday that uncertainty over the referendum was harming Scotland’s economy.
Asked where he thought the power lay in the debate over Scotland’s future, Mr Portillo said: “All the momentum is with Alex Salmond. The UK government seems to be mightily distracted by other issues and I think England is sleeping while events go on north of the Border.
“As for the legal position, I am not qualified to comment but if the UK called a referendum on the future of Scotland, it would be difficult to contest that they had right to do that. It might not be the brightest thing to do because that might be another example that people would cite of the UK imposing its will on Scotland.”
Mr Portillo, who made a documentary on Mr Salmond before this year’s election, said this approach might play into the SNP leader’s hands.
“I think the UK government would have to think about that very, very carefully,” he said. “There is an alternative, which is the UK government making an offer to Scotland that many Scots would think too good to refuse but which might have some problems for Alex Salmond.”
He said full fiscal autonomy would open up “inconsistencies” in the SNP position, adding: “As an Englishman I don’t feel particularly threatened by fiscal autonomy for Scotland.”
However, Mr Portillo was not sure if there was an “honest broker” who could deliver such a deal, and accepted it would be difficult for Prime Minister David Cameron to do it himself.
He said he “profoundly hoped” there was serious thought being given at Westminster to the future of Scotland, but added: “I’m not aware of one [an honest broker to make an offer on fiscal autonomy] because Alex Salmond has been left the field so much to himself. What political rival does he face? None.”
Mr Portillo did not think that Mr Salmond’s political strength in Scotland would necessarily be his undoing. He said: “Anybody who is in a supreme position – one thinks of Tony Blair and Margaret Thatcher – is in danger from himself or herself, but it can take a long time to work through.
“I think, across his career, Alex Salmond has made a number of mistakes but he is pretty good at recovering from them. I don’t see his day of doom coming particularly close. I came up in April to make a programme that was possibly about the last days of Alex Salmond and it soon became pretty clear it was not that. This is not a man to be underestimated.”
Mr Salmond was “absolutely on the front foot” in the constitutional debate, Mr Portillo said
“He probably gets up every morning and thinks about this and has done for many years,” he said. “But for David Cameron – who has actually been very thoughtful about Scotland – it is one of a very long list of things he has to pay attention to, and obviously with Libya and the euro and so on, he’s obviously not giving it the attention Alex Salmond is.”
Mr Portillo said he thought Mr Cameron had been very careful not to upset the Union by taking on issues such as the West Lothian Question.
“I have always been quite impressed that although the Conservative position now in Scotland is so desperate and that there might be an argument to make the case for English votes on English matters, David Cameron has not done that,” he said.
“He did not make anything of the West Lothian Question when Gordon Brown was leader. If I had been leader, I’d probably have said that it was intolerable to have a Scottish MP leading the UK Parliament making decisions over English people that did not affect his constituency in Scotland – but Cameron made nothing of that. He has been very concerned not to upset the Union.”
Last night Mr Portillo’s approach was welcomed by SNP ministers. A spokesman for the First Minister said: “Mr Portillo’s comments on fiscal autonomy and control of oil revenues do at least put forward a positive Unionist alternative as we approach the referendum – something wholly lacking from the Westminster parties themselves.”
The SNP’s opponents agreed with Mr Portillo that Mr Salmond is not genuinely pushing for full independence but is looking for “independence lite”.
Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson said: “What seems to matter most for Alex Salmond is getting anything at all he could claim as a personal legacy. But it shouldn’t be about Alex. Scotland wants a straightforward, single, unambiguous referendum question. If he really has Scotland’s best interests in mind he would stop prevaricating and get on with it.”
Scottish Labour leader Iain Gray said: “The SNP has a mandate for a referendum, but they have an obligation to the people of Scotland to do so on the basis of a clear question and on a fair timescale.”
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Eddison548
Sunday, November 20, 2011 at 08:18 AMWe had huge amounts of oil ,what do we get in return.the dearest fuel costs in Europe ,living in poverty in rubbish housing that costs a fortune and now over run with immigrants.Better we had never found the black stuff.
Hearts Upwards
Friday, November 18, 2011 at 08:18 AMPhil C, so true. Mr Portillo has a sense of humour but the subject is seemingly more serious than his countenance can give credence to.
Phil C
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 at 10:22 AM#440 Cruixer......"Country X should control the oil that is in Country X". Portillo's not saying that. He saying that we should have an "appropriate amount to preserve the union." This stories been up for a couple of days but Michael's not clairified his comment. He probably thinks 10% would be generous enough, more or less in line with our share of poulation!
Cruixer
Tuesday, November 15, 2011 at 09:24 AM"intolerable to have a Scottish MP leading the UK Parliament making decisions over English people that did not affect his constituency in Scotland". Good one Michael, becuase the converse never happened your party was running the show!?! Quite funny headline though "Country X should control the oil that is in Country X". No s*$t sherlock! As if he is making some incredible statement rather than stating the obvious.
Danielrober2
Tuesday, November 15, 2011 at 01:20 AM# 435 Whitstomatowiu............Some of the laws were very good and put forward by the Labour Party before 1979 anyway. The idea that people could fly picket, another person company put company and jobs at risk was silly. What was scandalous was that lots of companies went down. Unions just like governments have jobs to do and can distracted like every other human being, and stupid stuff. We are all fallible.
deliverus
Tuesday, November 15, 2011 at 01:19 AM436Danielrober2----Goodnight old friend I hope you wake up refreshed and hopefully wiser in the morning. I too am off to sleep perchance to dream of a fairer and prosperous Scotland.
Danielrober2
Tuesday, November 15, 2011 at 01:15 AM# 429 deliverus.............. Margret Thatcher is a bit of a bogeyman (or woman), eternally used as an excuse to avoid the successful completion of lots of tasks, such as job allocations. It’s a boorish and easy excuse but also forgivable at this time of night. My task for today is complete, urgh lists or regulations (boring and over rated, but vital). It also a reason why neither Alec.S or Portillo have succeeded with STEM, sometimes you have to push through the boring stuff, but you certainly cannot ignore it or push it aside. The SNP have a job to do, one that looks set to be delivered awfully if you cannot even get a Tram company to deliver (you know this is no joke). Good night, I''l catch up on any replys later.
whitstomatowiu
Tuesday, November 15, 2011 at 01:09 AMDanielrober2,---------------------------All the laws that the Thatcher government passed against the Trade Unions, Labour did'nt repeal one of them in the 13 years that Labour were back in office.------------------------------------Why the unions bank roll the Labour Party now is a big mystery
keithlj
Tuesday, November 15, 2011 at 01:09 AMAccording to the Act of Union all "Crown Jewels" from Scotland are to stay in Scotland. So all Oil in Scotland is to stay in Scotland because it is one of the "crown jewels". Crown jewels being referred to as assets of the Scottish Crown. Keep the assets and do not share any of the asset. It is not any part of the United Kingdom. Besides that, the United Kingdom breached the Act of Union contract and thus the contract is voidable by the descendents of the House of Stuart who signed the contract or the Scottish People who had their rights infringed and breached by the actions of the Estate of Parliament not adhering to the contract of the Monarchy remaining from the loins of the House of StuartHouse of David. Breach of contract. It is that simple. No rights adhere to the breach of any contract, ever.
deliverus
Tuesday, November 15, 2011 at 01:02 AM432Danielrober2----Maggie thatcher cooked the goose of the unions. She was lucky in that her adversary was the stupid Arthur Scargill. The unions have no hope of a comeback in England as the Tory party demonstrate at each general election. The only way to have a fair and equal society is to be independent and let our sense of fairness allow both management and workers to have a legitimate say in the way our society is run.
Danielrober2
Tuesday, November 15, 2011 at 12:49 AM# 429 deliverus.............. With no life or limb at risk working late into the night is the way to get jobs done. Maybe at this time of night I become less guarded, which whilst not very sensible might need to be said. Truly who speaks for the common working man in Scotland? Not the SNP, as evidenced by nothing after a term of office. I think we need unions to come back into fashion and see that the working classes stop getting s===ted, for the greater good of political ambition and those desperate for a footnote in history books...........So why should we wait for separation before Unions make a much needed comeback?
deliverus
Tuesday, November 15, 2011 at 12:44 AMHas Grahamski gone off to his country club with David and Ruth?
whitstomatowiu
Tuesday, November 15, 2011 at 12:43 AMDeliverus,---------------------I don't know why the Unionistas are so scared as soon they are asked about the wonderfull choice they've got too pick from the 3 Labour political giants they do an Elmer and run.-----------------------------Elie is the latest from a long list of cowardly unionistas.---------------------------------I don't know if you have noticed but Grahamski has been very quiet of late I wonder if him and The Major are about to jump ship.
deliverus
Tuesday, November 15, 2011 at 12:41 AM427Danielrober2----I`m sorry but you as an intelligent man must realise it is time for you to go to bed. Your posts are becoming less and less decipherable and your arguments more and more easily refuted. Your argument about trade unionism is a valid one but not before we have a free and independent country.
footdee
Tuesday, November 15, 2011 at 12:41 AMGraham13-------------------------TOMMY Sheridan’s former press chief Hugh Kerr has defected from the convicted perjurer’s Solidarity party to the SNP, claiming he wants to fight for an “independent Socialist Scotland” within Alex Salmond’s nationalists.----------------------------------------------- Former Labour MEP Mr Kerr told The Scotsman he had held talks with Sheridan during a prison visit to his former boss, whom he insisted was “very sympathetic” to his decision to join the SNP.---------------------------------Real socialists join the SNP
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