Letter: Donald Trump’s sea view
I would like to concur with Donald Trump on my frustration about the silence of Scottish Natural Heritage (SNH) regarding the proposed offshore wind farm development off Aberdeenshire.
Like me, I imagine it finds Mr Trump’s recent hot air full of hypocrisy given that he so adamantly put his own selfish interests ahead of those of one of the top five coastal sand-dune features in the UK, and therefore spoiled it.
For him now to decry the potential development of a shallow seabed on what could not be described as one of Scotland’s most scenic sea views (with constant daily views of parked tankers and rig boats) on the grounds of spoiling Scotland’s coastline and heritage, on one hand makes me wish SNH would be much more vocal in pointing out his double standards.
But on the other hand it does make Donald Trump look extremely silly, especially with the unsubstantiated and nonsense critique he has attached to the proposal.
Tom Cameron
Umeå
Sverige, Sweden
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Slioch.
Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 01:24 PM#20 Ron Greer - What on earth are you on about now?
Ron Greer
Friday, February 17, 2012 at 07:09 PM20--Slioch has gone in the huff and refuses to communicate with people who do not believe in AGW,
Ron Greer
Thursday, February 16, 2012 at 11:46 PM17 Yes this site would test the patience of Job.
Slioch.
Thursday, February 16, 2012 at 08:17 PMComment removed by moderator
Slioch.
Thursday, February 16, 2012 at 08:14 PM#15 Ron Greer, Oh this is such a useless website! There was a glitch when I posted #10 - it immediately said 'pending moderation'. Since there was no reason for that I (unwisely) pressed the 'Report unsuitable' button and asked them (very nicely) to sort it out. The post eventually reappeared. It now appears that, with the 'Report unsuitable' button having been pressed, my post is eventually automatically removed. Try it yourself: write an innocuous post and press the 'Report unsuitable' button and see what happens.
man-o-field
Thursday, February 16, 2012 at 08:09 PMAnd for a bit of further interest....Methane production in dry and lactating Holstein cows...Journal of Dairy Science 75..8..pp2165-2175 AUG 1992..(J B Holter & A J Young)......for starters - many more. Lots of litres CH4!
Ron Greer
Thursday, February 16, 2012 at 08:00 PMSlioch---I raised no complaints about your moderated post at 10, but your strop has not impressed the moderator. Did you see the recent article about landowners getting a 250% increase in rental for turbines? How is this going to help deal with land monopoly?
Ron Greer
Thursday, February 16, 2012 at 06:11 PMSlioch----are you saying that land reform is impossible without windfarms?
Ron Greer
Thursday, February 16, 2012 at 04:50 PM11 Man-o Field. ---Slioch is referring to me. Scotland's contribution to world anthropogenic CO2 is tiny to point of irrelevance. Other posters have quoted figures of 0.2%, or less, with about 0.05% due to our electricity production, therefore even a total cessation of CO2 from Scotland would make no difference to world temperature. The cost of this to our economy would however not be iirelevant and indeed might be disastrous. Any inspection of the NETA website is highly edifying in terms of the actual output from wind farms as opposed to installed capacity.
Ron Greer
Thursday, February 16, 2012 at 04:37 PM10 Slioch I do not oppose wind turbines on the basis of their landscape impacts, but on their uselessness in producing worthwhile amounts of electricity on a dependable, predictable basis in a coulntry whose CO2 outputs have no effect on climate change. They are of course very good at making money for the land monopoly interests that prevent the social and ecological regeneration of the Highlands. If you can prove to me that the amount of CO2 that windfarms save in Scotland will have a direct, measurable effect on world temperature, I will think again, but in the meantime I pursue the land reform agenda I was on long before the first turbine cursed this country.
man-o-field
Thursday, February 16, 2012 at 01:50 PMSlioch...I agree with you on the topics of inappropriate subsidies for industrial wind farms and environmental destruction, etc. But who specifically are you quoting when it is said that we should do nothing as there is 'little that we can do in Scotland to reduce CO2 emissions'? As you are aware 'We' are already researching methods of CO2 capture and storage. Let us hope this will be further enabled and not governmentally sabotaged. The panic to cover Scotland in windfarms, which gloomily fail to generate, under anticyclonic conditions, is of course the half-baked idea that this will affect GW... (aka climate change.) The CO2 emissions of our 'dirty' electrical energy generation plant, coal and gas, will hopefully be hugely diminished using, in particular, the above technology.. Even at present and assuming that the CO2 theory of global warming is essentially correct, emissions equate to an increase in temperature of only a few thousandths of one degree(C) over a period of around one hundred years. I hope that SNH and others may be diverted from and cured of their wind turbine mania. The planned turbine over proliferation, cooked up without adequate thought, will be damaging for Scotland.
Slioch.
Thursday, February 16, 2012 at 11:15 AMComment removed by moderator
Ron Greer
Thursday, February 16, 2012 at 10:47 AM7 The point is that more people and a greater woodland area are not mutually exclusive. The whole package of upland management needs to be looked at. An inkling of the possible can be found in western Norway and New England, though the situation there is not perfect by far.
Ron Greer
Thursday, February 16, 2012 at 10:43 AM6 Slioch--- I don't think you and I will agree on the functional capacity of windfarms, but on the points you raise in respect of woodland restoration, wetland restoration and the vested interests of the land monopoly, you have my full support.
Back To The Future
Thursday, February 16, 2012 at 10:40 AM6 Slioch. How many more trees do you actually want now that Scotland resembles and arboreal desert with foreign species. We need PEOPLE in the Highlands not subsidised poor quality timber fit only for paper mills. Oh yes, almost forgot to add, Donald Trump is spot on with windfarms whatever you might think of his golf course. Scots have been building golf courses among sand dunes for hundreds of years so why is it unthinkable for one of our strongest allies to do so? There are already 14,000 abandoned turbines in America. Turn off the cash and they quickly grind to a halt.
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