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Role change for Lib Dem in Alexander threat



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Published Date: 02 September 2008
AN MSP who threatened to resign from the standards committee if the decision to suspend Wendy Alexander, the former Scottish Labour leader, was not upheld has been removed from the committee by the Liberal Democrats.
But Tavish Scott, the new leader of the Scottish Lib Dems, insists his decision to change the representation on the committee had nothing to do with the Glasgow Lib Dem MSP Hugh O'Donnell's comments over the weekend. Before the recess, Mr O'Donnel
l voted with the committee's SNP members to suspend Ms Alexander for a day for failing to declare donations to her leadership campaign.

His vote backed up the SNP claim that the decision was not partisan. Over the weekend, he made it clear he would resign if MSPs failed to rubber-stamp the committee's recommendation.

It is expected the decision to suspend Ms Alexander will be reversed, which would be the first time a recommendation by the standards committee had been overturned. Mr O'Donnell was unavailable for comment.

An SNP spokesman said: "This is clearly a reaction to Hugh O'Donnell's threat to resign and will have been a surprise to him after making his position on the upcoming vote crystal clear." However, a Lib Dem spokesman said: "This was part of a reshuffle and had nothing to do with his comments. Almost all committee memberships have changed."

Mr O'Donnell has been appointed as an education spokesman and put on the equal opportunities committee. He has been replaced on the standards committee by Mike Rumbles, the new chief whip, who shares Mr O'Donnell's view on the issue.





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  • Last Updated: 01 September 2008 10:54 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Liberal Democrats
 
1

An Beal Bacht,

02/09/2008 00:12:24
Tavish cozying up to labour?
2

subrosa,

02/09/2008 00:47:09
# 1

You bet! He's nowhere else to go has he?
3

ptdoug,

02/09/2008 00:50:28
"AN MSP who threatened to resign from the standards committee if the decision to suspend Wendy Alexander, the former Scottish Labour leader, was not upheld has been removed from the committee by the Liberal Democrats."

Tell you all you need to know about the ILLIBERAL-UNDEMOCRATS.

What a total waste of space they have now become...
4

Edward,

02/09/2008 01:29:11
'Mr O'Donnell ... has been replaced on the standards committee by Mike Rumbles, the new chief whip, who shares Mr O'Donnell's view on the issue'
I wonder if Mike Rumbles will resign then if Alexander is not suspended? Or does he have less principles?
5

a proud doonhamer,

Dumfries 02/09/2008 01:57:05
Rumbles should not only resign... he should leave the party.. and join one that merits his commitment to Scotland.
6

Teamdroid,

02/09/2008 07:27:53
There would be a great irony if the Committee decision was overturned. It would mean than Wendy had resigned because of a suspension that never happened, which was imposed in the first place for breaking a law over an election that never happened...
7

glassbenmhor,

02/09/2008 07:45:16
What a flying disgrace, Tavish Scott just another westmonster suit as the tired old pompous git he replaced.
Ach---no need for tempers I suppose,
the whole union gang of them will be but a footnote in history in just a short while.
8

Randomly Blocked Poster, ,

02/09/2008 08:10:22
All criminals should be given the right to hold a vote amongst their mates to determine whether or not to accept their punishment. That would keep the prison population down. Kenny might just adopt that idea especially if Labour come up with it ahead of him.
9

Doh,

02/09/2008 08:39:52
#3

More spin from the Snazis.

What about a referendum on Swinney's second home in Morningside? - Paid for by the taxpayer. Oh sorry cant mention that he is not a unionist he is a Snazi.
10

Alan B,

02/09/2008 09:52:28
#Doh

What with your ridiculous "Snazi" comments. Thought you were above that sort of thing.
11

Alan B,

02/09/2008 09:55:36
Cannot understand Scott. Dealing with msps who break the rules should not be a party political game.

The lib dems in the past gained much of their credibility from being above the behaviour of labour and the tories bickering. But changing the make up of a committe so to please the party that have broken the rules stinks.
12

The Former Mr. Angry,

Perth 02/09/2008 10:28:37
Got to ask yourself why should a Parliamentary Standards Committee consist of the very members it is supposed to supervise on that subject? Clearly in this case there are too many shenanigans going on in the background with the goal of "exonerating" Wendy or some such drivel, not that she could trusted to run a whelk stall and all of us know it. Why such a delay in taking this decision or was that the goal all along that she could squirm out of the "sentence" due to the time delay in awarding it?

Scott has immediately shown poor judgement in this matter and leaves himself open to accusations of trying to inveigle himself back into Labour's camp.
13

Doh,

02/09/2008 10:30:57
#10 Alan

I have decided to use silly names for the SNP when I read silly comments by juvenile SNP contributors. Simple as that - no other implications implied.

Erudite contributors such as yourself have nothing to fear from my new campaign of silly name calling.
14

European Scot,

02/09/2008 11:04:22
13 Doh

" I have decided to use silly names for the SNP when I read silly comments by juvenile SNP contributors."

What is difficult to accept, is that a name connected with (S)Nazi is considered by you to be just 'silly.'
The Nazis could never be described as, or be associated with, the word 'silly'.
Others might replace your 'silly' with the word offensive.
15

Doh,

02/09/2008 11:45:48
#14

You make a good point, I will use Snazzies in future.

Although Snits is also good if you have another
suggestion I will happily use that.

I take it you are a ScotNed yourself?
16

European Scot,

02/09/2008 12:21:59
15 Doh

Well as God was good enough to bless me with some brains, it's only natural that I would be an SNP supporter !
'Snassy' might be a bit better, but the 'nazzi' section of 'snazzies' is still too close for comfort.
It's not you having a go at the SNP that I object to, you are perfectly entitled to do so, it's making light of something that was actually so fundamentally evil.
The Nazis should always be remembered for what they were, and not turned into a source of light hearted banter, they were never funny.
As for being a ScotNed, well I would happily admit to the first bit, but can honestly state I was never the second, I was a good lad !
However you are free to make your own assessment on that one.
I'll put that down to being your own 'Liberal' interpretation !
17

Alan B,

02/09/2008 12:24:25
#Doh

While I understand where you are coming from as there are alot of daft comments. It does not help if the sensible posters stoop to the level of others. This forum can be an interesting for a political debate and also let us learn from other posters.

If the whole thing become "liebour", "snazi" etc it just becomes pointless.

I realise it is irritating though.
18

Richard Taylor,

Aberdeen 02/09/2008 12:53:03
#Doh:

DOH!
19

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02/09/2008 12:56:06
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20

Jock Politicaljunkie,

Glasgow 02/09/2008 13:00:55

Re-Namecalling, (severall posters)

Agree this can get in the way but alas probably can't be stopped given the number of wind up merchants/trolls on the boards.

Maybe if the SNP are referred to as nothing worse that "Gnats" and if in return the unionists are referred to as nothing worse than "onionists" this could become some sort of Standard Terminology.

I appreciate that the above idea may appear slightly harder on the Gnats, but speaking as a Gnat, I must say I am proud to be a Gnat, and don't mind the tag at all. (Suits the underdog mentality?)

Both tags have the benefit of being fairly harmless and mildly amusing. What say you all?


21

Jock Politicaljunkie,

Glasgow 02/09/2008 13:09:04


Getting back to the story:

I think this is an incredibly badly judged move by Tavish. It has opened him to his first (and so soon at that) accusation of incompetence.

In trying to cover up a potential moment of embarrassment to allegedly appease his former NuLabour pals, Tavish looks either weak or toadying. The very sacking is now a topic of debate as will the eventual vote in Parliament REGARDLESS of which way it goes.

Furthermore, SHOULD Rumbles also resign in protest at the unionist block overturning the one day suspension, he will suddenly find it all being discussed again and his leadership will have been holed below the waterline before he has really got started.

If that should happen (and it is highly likely to) the Illiberal Undemocrats will continue to wither and will soon be closer in support to the country's 5th party, the Greens, than the 3rd party, the Tories, whom they are trying to catch.

Mmmmm, wonder what the Green Party membership is currently standing at? Anyone know?



22

European Scot,

02/09/2008 13:40:09
19 Doh

I have no problem with posters extracting the proverbial, but the Nazis, and variations of Natz, etc. I'm suggesting is not exactly funny.
Some posters, and I'm not including you here, try to use word association to suggest that a democratic party, is somehow connected with the National Socialist Workers Party of Adolf Hitler, by virtue of the fact that the word National is a part of SNP.
A ludicrous idea to anyone with any sense, but one that is pushed by people who may not possess too much of that quality themselves.
It has been suggested by 'Jock oliticaljunkie' that 'Gnats' is a reasonable tag, that seems fair enough to me.
23

Doh,

02/09/2008 14:31:33

#22
Dont mention the war.
24

Christina, Aberdeen,

02/09/2008 15:44:13
Here, under leave of Brutus and the rest, (For Brutus is an honourable man; So are they all; all honourable men)....
25

Christina, Aberdeen,

02/09/2008 15:44:58
For Brutus read Tavish...
26

Col. Blimp­IV*,

02/09/2008 18:30:57
#20
Jock Politicaljunkie,
Glasgow

If it is OK to refer to the SNP as "Gnats", presumably it will be all right to call the LD's "Eariewhigs", the Tories "Dung Beetles" and Labour a bunch of "Bloodsucking Leaches".

I'm not sure that much progress is being made here.

As for the guy who started it all...He is a G'nad.

27

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 02/09/2008 23:20:41
#23 doh

I sense that you are trying to retract your ill-advised comments through humour. The bad news is that you are now tarnished forever by your bigoted comments.

 

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