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Published Date: 21 September 2009
FAST food giant McDonald's has been named as Britain's most-hated brand in a new survey by marketing experts.
The American burger chain – unpopular with 46 per cent of consumers – topped a list of the least-liked brands which featured some of the country's biggest names.

Tesco was second most hated in the poll for Marketing magazine, followed by Coca-Cola and the discount fashion chain Primark.

However, the research showed some of the most well-known brands also attracted consumers in equal measure.

Tesco and Coca-Cola were also voted Britain's sixth and seventh most loved brands respectively.

Both were more loved than hated, with 66 per cent backing for Tesco and 51 per cent for Coca-Cola. McDonald's attracted 36 per cent support.

Brand experts said dislike of McDonald's derived from health concerns and its market dominance.

Charlie Robertson, of Glasgow's Red Spider brand consultancy, said: "People are worried about growing obesity and fast food, while they also dislike McDonald's for its bland Americanising of the high street."

However, he said polarised opinion over major brands – the so-called "Marmite effect" – was simply because they were so high profile. He said: "If you are big, you are going to attract more negative opinion."

Marketing said the most hated brands were typically seen as being of poor quality and value for money, unreliable, and having irritating advertising.

Primark and Nestle were singled out for their perceived poor ethical record, over sourcing and marketing in poor countries. Sky and BT were seen as providing services that consumers were more likely to have a strong opinion about when things went wrong.

The brands topping the most-loved list made popular "comfort" products – such as Cadbury for its chocolate and Heinz for soup and baked beans.

Consultants FreshMinds, who polled 1,000 people for the research, said consumers both loved and hated major brands.

Alistair Leathwood, its managing director, said: "As a nation, we're famous for our love of the underdog, so hating big brands is a national pastime. However, when it comes to the weekly shop or getting a bite to eat, consumers still spend cash on the brands they are proud to hate."

A spokeswoman for McDonald's said: "We are serving more customers than ever before, during the summer over three million people a day visited our restaurants here in the UK. We take notice of surveys but pay most attention to what our customers say to us directly."


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  • Last Updated: 20 September 2009 11:56 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: McDonald's fast food
 
1

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 21/09/2009 00:27:46

It all sounds like a lot of old 'Pugwash', we all enjoy the good old McDonald's from time to time, and think of all the history of all the people, who have had meals from all the McDonald's outlets over the UK, there must be many sweet memories and stories to tell, of the days we visited McDonald's, from lovers meeting, to family outings, business coffee, to happy meals to the delight of your loved wee tot.
How Dare they Demean McDonald's!



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Tom More,

Canada 21/09/2009 03:44:41
Bit of snobbery involved here, methinks. I've noticed too that a lot of left-wingers hate McDonald's. Look at the folk who protest the G8 meetings. Often they'll go on a rampage and attack McDonald's. As long as you take any fast food in moderation, it isn't as bad as some say. Not like deep-fried Mars bars ! I can remember driving with my children on holiday in Canada and in the States, and being so glad to see the McDonald's sign. It was somewhere where we could all go to the washroom (bathroom), and then buy ourselves some hot, familiar food. Not gourmet stuff, of course, but then my children wouldn't have looked at it if it was. None of my kids is obese, or anywhere near it.
3

Nelson Sherwood,

Lumberton 21/09/2009 03:45:28
RE: #1-How dare they demean Mc Donalds?? It's easy; they suck. I'm old enough to remember all the local Hamburger stands we used to have over here, the worst of which was immeasurably better than Mickey D's. Go eat fish and chips--it's better for you. and by the way, have a great day.
4

missing home,

la verne 21/09/2009 04:36:12
It's kind of 'pretend food', but every now and then I get a notion for it. The fries used to be the best, often it was go to In'n Out (local chain with excellent burgers)for the burgers and McDonald's for the fries.
5

Peripatetic Pensioner,

,El Mundo 21/09/2009 04:45:22
I like hamburgers but I have never and hopefully will never partake of a chain burger version, not because of taste, because as I said I have never tried one, but because of the damage those companies do to countries like Brazil and the world by their land clearences for cattle ranches in order to supply their cheap and cheerful outlets. Also the sight years ago of the a large flourescent yellow M set into one of the medieaval gates of the university city of Frieburg is forever imprinted in my mind as an example of extremely bad taste. (sorry, couldn't help it.)
6

Pocket Dictionary,

21/09/2009 04:59:39
After watching Michael Douglas in 'Falling Down' last night, I too want a burger that looks like the one in the wall photo. Complete with nice fresh crisp lettuce, not the wilted limp atuff served up.
7

For Scotlands Future,

Vote for the SNP 21/09/2009 05:00:26
"...said consumers both loved and hated major brands" Don't they mean that SOME consumers hated them and SOME consumers loved them??

I'd hate to see this lot conduct a political opinion poll.
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george toot toot,

Europe 21/09/2009 05:12:04
Old MacDonald had a farm.
He sold the good meat to butchers and the scrapings went...
I wonder where!
9

Canis Majoris,

21/09/2009 05:24:19
You do not have them in Europe or UK . But the privately owned small chain IN-N-OUT Burger here in California, leaves McDonald's in the trash bin for quality service and price. IN-N-OUT offer just 3 choices , hamburger, cheeseburger, and double-double.

The problem with IN-N-OUT is you need to pick the right time to eat there . As they are mostly long lines and waiting during lunch and dinner hours. Their food is fresh and chips are prepared on site with all the rest. 24 oz Sodas are a round a buck fifty and refills are free.. A double-double is about $3.20. All the food is cooked and served as its ordered
N-IN-OUT workers are paid a fair rate and get medical benefits etc , Unlike McDonalds who rip-off their workers with min wages and no benefits.
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Rabhairt,

Cannons Creek Australia 21/09/2009 05:51:26
What about the new MacHaggis burger with a nice Irn Bru to wash it down.
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21/09/2009 06:22:28
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21/09/2009 06:33:39
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BROONISDOOMED,

21/09/2009 06:34:27
typo ronald
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Black Sabbath,

21/09/2009 06:44:16
#13 poster #6 is just here to bash America and big business in general.

"but because of the damage those companies do to countries like Brazil and the world by their land clearences for cattle ranches in order to supply their cheap and cheerful outlets"

And what's your solution? I bet you are just one of the wafflemasters who have nothing positive to say.
16

Rabhairt,

Cannons Creek 21/09/2009 06:52:01
#14 thanks for the tip, I think I will start a hamburger shop called Mick Donalds, that will McCheese them off.
17

Graeme,

Guangzhou 21/09/2009 07:15:32
Where do you start….

Mass produced muck
Unhygienic manufacturing process. Every burger you eat is a health gamble.
Substandard labour practices
Monopolise farm production and pricing
Monopolise slaughter and packaging
Environmental disaster on farming and packaging
Disastrous health issues
I could go on and on.

Bravo McMuck.

18

It's life but not as we know it,

The Oort Clouds 21/09/2009 07:18:13
Looking at the Mr & Mrs Blobbies (and their fat kids) that dominate Scotland I don't think McDonalds needs to lose too much sleep.
19

pongo2009,

21/09/2009 07:49:49
I don't think the issue is whether McD's is good or bad but how well or badly it compares with supermarket ready meals extruded from nozzles hundreds of miles away, potentially many days previously.
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Ben Thehoose,

21/09/2009 07:55:00
It's so unpopular that it continues to make vast profits!
21

eric,

lothian 21/09/2009 08:06:27
Cant be that hated,look at all the american sized asses on our streets especially woman.
22

Phil C,

21/09/2009 08:10:57
#19

Yep, McDonalds certainly aren't bottom of the pile when it comes to sales. I'd wager that they are about top! I think they are treated a bit unfairly, just because they are an American global monster. As you say it's the Blobbies that are the problem, not McDees who are just profiteering from the gullible face packers.

These Blobbies stuff their faces with sugar, salt and fat laden sandwiches and baguettes, pastries, cakes, biscuits, crisps, pizzas, doners, countless processed foods.......A Big Mac is healthier than all of these.

There's nothing wrong with any of these fast foods, in moderation, but there's not much fruit & veg in sight. A balanced diet is the key to a healthy diet- calories, carbs, salt, fat and all.
23

Kenny A,

21/09/2009 08:35:03
McDonalds burgers taste like sawdust, the chips are fairly tasty. Wimpy the same, Burger King gave something edible from memory. Small local cafes were always the best for burgers if needing a quick bite.
24

Andrah,

Embrugh 21/09/2009 08:43:16
Those strongly against the likes of MacDonalds and Tesco are often eco-nutters and other assorted, hand-wringing lefties, wearing the fake mask of caring, kindness and concern for the earth and it's people.

In truth they despise success (particularly of the American variety), our industrial economy and the prosperity it has brought, including an increasingly wealthy and healthy population. Free trade and travel are like poison to them.

The real test is, are Tesco and Macdonald's failing, and the clear answer to that is NO, because currently at least, their customers appear to love them.

Incidentally, Tesco is only my 4th choice supermarket, and I would only be likely to visit Macs if coerced by grandchildren.
25

Boy Wonder,

21/09/2009 08:57:31
As a vegetarian ....

Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!

Am I making myself clear???
26

voltaire's janny,

21/09/2009 09:02:04
On a bitter cold day in Tianjin, China my local hosts refused point blank to work the holiday which was Chinese new year. Instead they gave us a taxi for the day and with a Canadian colleague we set off for Badaling about 4 or five hours drive away.

Now the Chinese love a banquet and nothing more than watching foreigners get legless on mao-tai (spelling?)

When I tell you we were hung over and in urgent need of visceral relief, you may care also to know that in China that often means a fetid dank hole in a corner.

Cramps and Beijing arrived at almost the same time.

And then! We saw them. The golden arches of McDonalds. Not the comfort food, not the double big mac, nor yet the lifesize Ronald statue you could photo with his arm around you - no. It was the proper commode, in a stall that locked, with paper and with less than an inch of water on the floor.

McDonalds, you will ever be associated in my very being with the best dump ever. I salute thee.

Breakfast burrito's not bad either by the way and coffee better than Starbucks/Tullys/Seattle's Finest.
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Douglas,

Bathgate 21/09/2009 09:04:11
"Love" and "Hate" in this context is, I would suggest, the vocabulary of the X Factor voter and their fellow travellers. You know, the ones who now "hate" either Peter or Katie.
Pysh!
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Steve Foley,

England 21/09/2009 09:17:52
I will only use a Macdonalds if it is pouring with rain or I need to use the loo. I do not like their food.

I feel that the reasons they are so disliked by many people is connected with their poor record as an employer = "Mac Jobs", the fact that they will not make any significant variation in the meals they serve, compare and contrast with Burgerking who use the slogan "Have it your way", and that they are perceived as far too American and part of the "Coca-colanisation" of the World. Personally I'd rather have a "Pudding Supper" any day than a "Big Mac"
29

Annlass,

Toronto 21/09/2009 09:19:03
Scotland is hardly the place where a gastronomical adventurer would chose to pitch a tent, thus McDonalds should fare well with the hungry hord.
30

Annlass,

Toronto 21/09/2009 09:21:45
#30 Correct hord to horde.
31

albanman,

21/09/2009 09:26:50
No.31: Also change "chose" to "choose", "McDonalds" to "McDonald's" (it's a possessive) - and use a semicolon instead of a comma after the word tent:)
32

T M,

LA, USA 21/09/2009 09:33:19

#25

Well said...
33

letmein,

Paisley 21/09/2009 09:36:03
Who are the marketing experts the hootsmon have found now? I dont know anyone who likes tescoshire. I know a lot of people who like Primark and an occassional visit to McDonalds is ok. As one poster said a little bit of fast food now and then is ok. Tesco are barstewards.
34

letmein,

Paisley 21/09/2009 10:01:23
I am against Tesco, not as an eco nutter but someone who now takes around 15 extra minutes to go through Paisley, due to the traffic lights put up by Tesco to direct everyone to their new store. Incidently' the new store is not going to be built. I am talking about the old StMirren football ground.
35

Jambos49,

Castle 21/09/2009 10:05:32
The thing is McDonalds is like m*sturbation, no one will admit to it, but everybody does it!! McDonalds is the cheap nasty dirty secret that everyone indulges in. You look at any of the McDonalds drive thrus in the evening and its packed out with posh 4x4 BMW's driven by dirtytanned trophy wives binging on big macs before their solitary purge /enema at beauty clincs.
36

Porry,

The Continent 21/09/2009 10:06:06
##21,22 - Spot on! And not to forget: It's the class conscious who love it most. The big appetite of the masses keeps McDoof on the high street.
37

Annlass,

Toronto 21/09/2009 10:11:29
#32albaman,21...and here am I an English major obviously working beyond my bedtime.. Thank
you but you are wrong on the comma.
38

AJ Fife,

21/09/2009 10:13:29
McDonalds might be the modern day workhouse but the milkshakes are great. It's the chicken fat used in the recipe that makes the beverage so tasty and yummy!
39

blackley,

Edinburgh 21/09/2009 10:57:07
What a load of old rubbish!
40

Jock MacSprog,

21/09/2009 11:02:01
funny how the supposed most hated brands by some self important trade mag read by about 100 people are also the most succesful and profitable brands in the world. Someone must like them....
41

SevenNine,

A shire somewhere 21/09/2009 11:36:58
Come on people, everyone knows if you want a decent burger it's got to be Burger King!
42

Orbital,

21/09/2009 11:52:30
I prefer Burger King, their burgers are tastier..but everything in moderation!

Check this out: www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IGtDPG4UfI

Some girl found a 4 year old Mconalds cheeseburger in her lunch box..and it still looks edible!
43

Truthseeker253,

Motherwell 21/09/2009 12:00:19
#13 - please attend some basic English language classes yourself before verbally chastising #6! (S)he made only a typological error in placing the 'e' before the 'a' in his/her spelling of MEDIAEVAL (from the Latin: medius = middle; aevum = ages). Your version, while nowadays acceptable, is the USA (McDonald's!!) version, in the same way as 'savory' for 'savoury', or 'organized' for 'organised'! In most, if not all, English language dicionaries, your spelling merely refers to the more etymologically correct one!
While I am here, may I ask #5 and #10 to get together? I'd like to know the truth with regard to the existence, or otherwise, of a local "In 'n Out" chain in Scotland!!
44

Ggordon,

21/09/2009 12:12:49


Don't do Big Mac's apart from pinching a few chips. BSE

Don't know if it is a urban myth, but Mrs Old MacDonald suppose to donate to Anti-War charities

Bit like, trash the world then try and make it better
45

hibeehawk,

21/09/2009 12:15:57
I refuse point blank to even consider paying for that American imperialist muck!
McDonalds drive though at Fort Kinnaird is doubly annoying. Not only is it there in the first place but in the car park outside there are always fat,ugly, inbred sub humans stuffing their dumb bloated faces with that shyt and then chucking their litter out the window of their cars even when there are litter bins right in front of them.
Nothing a flamethrower wouldnt sort out though.
46

Iain Mac,

21/09/2009 12:49:35
MuckDonalds is pretty bad. Have had one or two out of necessity in the past 20 years and it always leaves you feeling kind of sick. There's just so much salt and fat on their stuff.

Have known one or two staff - both came down with food poisoning after a while.

It IS muck.
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Jimmy Two Times,

USA 21/09/2009 12:51:07
hibee says...
"in the car park outside there are always fat,ugly, inbred sub humans stuffing their dumb bloated faces with that shyt and then chucking their litter out the window of their cars even when there are litter bins right in front of them."
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It's not up to McDonald's to instill manners in you and your countrymen. This is something your parents are supposed to do. If they provide the trash bins what more do you want? I bet the Americans who go to Scotland wouldn't eat there if they are as filthy as you describe. In the US an outlet like yours would be shut down by health officials. It definitely would not pass for 'normal' over here.
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Lianachan,

Highlabds 21/09/2009 14:02:12
I hate McDonald's too, but not for snobbish or anti-American reasons - it's quite simply that I find their burgers repulsive. I do enjoy an occasional Burger King though, far nicer. Geography makes them very occasional indeed.
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uno.who,

Livingston 21/09/2009 14:23:15
I agree with #40. This story is a load of p!sh.

"However, the research showed some of the most well-known brands also attracted consumers in equal measure."

.... so the research was POINTLESS ?

And who on earth are " Glasgow's Red Spider brand consultancy" or "Freshminds"? - not exactly household names! Can we suppose that the questions were specific to a certain WEST of Scotland City ?

51

Yank of South Texas,

San Antonio 21/09/2009 14:42:21
I don't shop at McDonald's anymore because they did nothing to aid the wee dying dinosaurs after the Chixulub impact in the Yucatan Peninsula.

Most of the plight of the modern world can be traced directly back to the capitalist neglect, disregard for social justice, and reptile-bias perpetrated by McDonald's on the date of that asteroid impact.

Were it not for the evil, burger-industrial complex, mammals would not have their artificially-enhanced pre-eminence in the natural order.

Unfortunately, in order to reduce our dependence on mammals, we are now forced to eat more lizards.

Tastes like chicken.
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uno.who,

Livingston 21/09/2009 14:50:01
#52 Isn't there a McDonalds near The Alamo ?
53

Ewan Oosami,

21/09/2009 15:06:50
BT and Sky are the most hated brands - at least MacDonalds isn't a monopoly run by greed
54

Richard Lionheart,

21/09/2009 15:17:45
Yet again we see how you can make statistics say anything you want them to say. 100% of those surveyed agreed! The highest amount since records began!

Are this company in the running to lead Douglas Alexander's campaign to get Labour re-elected?
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The Oracle Of The Higher Power,

21/09/2009 16:00:20
Anti Americanism is very much part of the lingua franca of liberal leftie Scots. If some of the material that is being published in this thread was put forth other about countries and their culture it would be quickly deleted.

Anti-American racism is accepted in Scottish society and that is reflected in the comments section of the Scotsman.

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MattyMat,

So Cal 21/09/2009 16:46:19
You gotta have the fries once a month and the double quarter pounder once every six months!!

IN-N-OUT tops every other chain!! And Carls Jr is pretty good too-- fresh and not as fattening. Wendy's is too greasy, but has good chili and baked potatoes. Burger Queen is horrid!!

I think if it wasn't for the kids and getting them a fast meal they'll like--- these restaurants couldn't survive--- IMHO.
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MattyMat,

So Cal 21/09/2009 16:47:26
Oh--- and no other chain has as tasty a fast breakfast as McD'd---
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hibeehawk,

21/09/2009 17:41:59
McDONALDS.... I'M LOATHING IT.
59

Do as you please on Sunday,

Balloch, Dunbartonshire 21/09/2009 17:43:12
MacDonalds deserves to be a hated brand. I think it's despicable the way they target children with the clown and the free toys with the Happy Meals. That clown is in my opinion the closest thing we have in the real world to Stephen King's It. The food is not healthy and the whole MacDonald's corporation represents American commercialism at its worst. By the way, I live just across the road from a MacDonalds.
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AbandonAllHope,

21/09/2009 18:14:02
Mackie D's are horrible to eat, but ridiculously cheap, its the cheapness and standardisation that makes them attractive, terrible food though, beggars cant be choosers unfortunately. There hated because of the 'i know i shouldnt be eating this, i'm lazy and uninspired, i've succumbed to the darkside of globalisation.
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MGA,

The USA 21/09/2009 18:50:22
Here is my take on Micky D's. It is not my favorite place to eat, and I don't eat there a lot. There are some items on the menu I will order and others I would not touch.

But McDonalds is consistent. You know exactly what you are going to get. I used to travel a lot and when I needed to stop for a shot of caffine, I always went to McDonalds. This was because McDonald's would throw out a pot of coffee that was more than 20 minutes old. So even if the coffee was not the best in the world, it was always fresh, no matter when or where you ordered it.

I know that McDonalds takes a lot of hits for selling unhealthy food. But McDonalds is in the business of selling food. That means that McDonald's sells what people want to buy. If everyone wanted tofu, I am sure that we'd see a McTofu sandwich.

And Cousins, I have had fish and chips from an Edinburgh chip shop that were just wonderful. But there was a lot more saturated fat in that meal than in anything on the McDonald's menu. So, let's not pretend that America has foisted unhealthy food upon an unwitting and green vegetable eating British public.

If you don't like McDonalds, eat elsewhere. But you will be hard pressed to find another resturaunt chain that can execute its game plan with the amazing consistency of McDonalds.
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Phil C,

21/09/2009 19:10:47
McDonalds is one of those polarising giants. Like Oasis, the Queen, Alex Salmond and a few select others, they top the least liked chart AND the most liked one at the same time! Folk are funny.

Though their food is sh*te apart from the chips, McDonalds are healthier than most other fast food joints and ready made offerings from supermarkets. KFC, Greggs, Subway, all the Pizza places, all the chippies and Indians, Chinese etc are awful for your health (even if they are yummy!). Hypocrissy rules! Every now and then they are fine though, and McDonalds are no different.

The main problem with Scotland's diet is that too many people are too lazy to cook or maybe it's just ignorance. It kills more people than cigarettes or bevvy! There is wonderful natural food all round us, and it's cheaper. There really is no excuse.
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Phil C,

21/09/2009 20:58:29
#64..... Another obvious polarising giant is Margaret Thatcher.
65

eeyore,

Not eating right now. 21/09/2009 21:00:32
Moan, groan, complain, complain, complain!

Some groups of people get together and go into the place where another group of people live. Sometimes they kill the other group of people because they look different. Sometimes they kill the other group of people because they think differently, or the force the other group to act like they think thier way. Sometimes they occupy the other people's land so their people can use it and all the resources. All these groups will abandon their moving into the other people's land if it becomes too expensive in their own lives and resources.

The group of people calling themselves "McDonalds Hamburgers" are not occupying the UK for any of those reasons, or any other ideological reasons - they are occupying the UK to make money pure and simple. If they don't make money, they will abandon the land and go home.

So if you don't like McDonalds, then just don't go spend money there. It's that simple.

And for those who say they prefer the old food stands - I guess you just didn't spend enough money to keep them in business. That's not McDonald's fault, it's yours.
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Brianwci,

21/09/2009 21:39:49
McDonald's is UK's most-hated brand

Thought that was Big Brother...or KFC, Burger King....or....goodness, so many to choose from!
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Calum Crubag,

21/09/2009 21:45:58
This aint a surprise. MacDonalds is shoite. It's a wonder you can call it food. No wonder so many folk get food get food poisoning from it.
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KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 21/09/2009 22:36:31
The Oracle Of The Higher Power #56

"Anti-American racism is accepted in Scottish society and that is reflected in the comments section of the Scotsman."

How can it be Racism when America is the giant Melting Pot. If you had a racial hatred of Americans you would have to hate all races, including your own.

Those that I know that seem to have a biding dislike of America, dislike you for your policies, not your race.

They dislike the hypocrisy of a state that holds it self up as pillar of democracy, human rights and justice and then proves it by being a leading executioner, torturer and imprisoning people without trial.

They dislike you because you fail to keep your own promise.
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Drum Major,

Brisbane 22/09/2009 00:14:45
McDonalds was the example used by most quality assurance trainers. You can go anywhere in the world and find the same quality Big Mac (except Israel as meat with cheese is not kosha).

During my recent visit to Scotland I was very surprised to find the fish & chip shops I visited produced the worst cooked fish and the soggiest chips I have ever had the misfortune to attempt to eat. They would go broke in less than a week in Australia. It was obviously the wrong cooking oil and not drained before being plonked in the wrapping paper. I'm sure there was nothing wrong with fish or the potatoes before they got their hands on them.

I couldn't find a Maccas fast enough.

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Douglas,

Bathgate 22/09/2009 22:56:29
I'll be in for a breakfast after dropping she who must be obeyed and her sister off at the airport at 6am tomorrow.
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Douglas,

Bathgate 23/09/2009 06:31:46
That was good. :o)
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eeyore,

Eating in a family owned Mexican restaraunt 23/09/2009 20:00:57
All you people who hate, preech peace and then foster hate.

You don't have to hate anything - just ignore it and don't participate.

The problem of course is that you want to force your feelings (dislike of McDonalds here) on everyone else by getting rid of McDonalds and taking away the choice and freedom of those who like McDonalds. Ironically, you hate mongers sure don't want to give up your own freedom of choice.
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eeyore,

Now eating in a Persian restaraunt 23/09/2009 20:08:38
#69 KampgroundHighlander

Yeah, ok. Tell you what. Since you hate the US so much, the next time the Germans threaten to cross the channel and turn you into a colony of the Greater German Empire, and the next time the Japanese slaughter or capture tens of thousands of your soldiers and take away all your Imperial holdings in the Pacific - just let the old USA know that you don't want their help. You don't need Americans to give their lives for your family, your country and your freedom.

The next time you feel like hating American, look in the mirror. Think about how many Americans have given their lives and limbs for non-Americans, and then think about how many British soldiers gave their lives to occupy and oppress ethnic people who tried to fight them off with spears against guns. Yeah, how many times in history has Britain sent out its Army and Navy to help free oppressed people around the world? Until after WW2, try never. Britain spent hundreds of year conquering helpless tribal peoples who couldn't defend themselves.

So KampgroundHighlander, why don't you try some self exploration before criticizing your betters.
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SkeptikScot,

27/09/2009 01:17:09
#1 Charles,

QUOTE: "we all enjoy the good old McDonald's from time to time"

Not true! Can't stand the vomit inducing muck.
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eeyore,

28/09/2009 19:20:43
#75 SeptikScot

Great. Then just don't eat it. See how simple the choice is? Don't like - don't buy. Like - buy.

The problem isn't McDonalds, the problem is people trying to impose their will on others and take away other's right to choose.

 

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