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Published Date: 07 July 2009
THE United States and Russia are to slash their nuclear stockpiles by up to a third as part of a move to improve relations between the former Cold War foes.
The weapons deal was agreed in principle after four hours of talks at the Kremlin between US president Barack Obama and Russia's Dmitry Medvedev. Moscow also said it would allow the US to fly troops and weapons across its territory to Afghanistan.

Mr Obama said he wanted to end the "suspicions and rivalry of the past" that had dogged relations between the superpowers.

The deal on arms reduction means the world's two largest nuclear powers – which control 90 per cent of global stockpiles between them – will begin reducing their numbers of nuclear warheads to between 1,500 and 1,675 within seven years of a new treaty being signed. Strategic delivery systems will also be cut to between 1,000 and 500.

Opponents of Britain's plans to replace Trident said it showed the need for a UK deterrent was diminishing.

But the two leaders remained deadlocked on the thorny issue of the proposed US missile defence system in Eastern Europe – what Russia sees as its own backyard. The US insists its system would be aimed not at Russia but potential rogue nuclear states such as Iran or North Korea.

Both presidents tried to put on a show of unity at a joint press conference in the gilded hall at the Kremlin.

Mr Obama hailed the agreement on nuclear stockpiles, which will mean both sides scaling down their weapons by some 1,000 each.

"We must lead by example and that's what we are doing here today," he said. "We resolve to reset US-Russian relations so that we can co-operate more effectively in areas of common interest."

On what was his first trip to Russia as president, he said both countries had been hampered in making progress in their relations by old "bureaucracies".

Mr Medvedev also welcomed the deal, saying, "We hope that, as a result of our conversations today and tomorrow… that we will close a number of difficult pages in Russian-American relations and turn a new page."

He also joked that the pair had no choice but to sit inside and hold talks, due to Moscow's unusually cold temperatures. "Even the weather favours our discourse today, as it is cold outside," he said.

In another signal of easing tensions, Russia said it would allow US troops and weapons to be flown over its airspace for missions to Afghanistan, saving the Americans potentially dangerous and expensive journeys through Pakistan.

In the aftermath of the 9/11 terrorist attacks in 2001, Russia had allowed "humanitarian" flights to transit its airspace, but it stipulated only "non-lethal" goods could be transported.

There was also an agreement on a resumption of military co-operation, suspended after last year's Russian invasion of Georgia, and the lifting of restrictions on Russia's importation of some US pork products imposed because of swine flu.

However, one outstanding issue still threatens to derail further talks and co-operation.

The Russians oppose the US's proposed missile defence shield, which is to be based in Poland and the Czech Republic.

Mr Obama yesterday tried to reassure Mr Medvedev, saying:

"There is no scenario in our perspective in which this missile defence system would provide any protection against a mighty Russian arsenal."

It is a subject likely to come up this morning when Mr Obama has breakfast with Russian prime minister Vladimir Putin, who is widely regarded as still the de facto president.

The atmosphere at those talks may be a little frostier because, ahead of his trip to Moscow, Mr Obama appeared to refer to Mr Putin as harbouring an old Cold War approach.

He said: "I think that it's important that, even as we move forward with President Medvedev, that Putin understands the old Cold War approach to US-Russian relations is outdated… Putin has one foot in the old ways of doing business and one foot in the new."

In the Kremlin yesterday, Mr Obama gave a more positive assessment of Mr Medvedev. He said: "Throughout our interactions, I found him to be straightforward, professional. He is clear about interests of the Russian people, but he is also interested in finding out what the interests of the United States are."

For his part, Mr Medvedev praised the US president for appearing to listen to Russia. He admitted the positioning of the US defence shield remained a "complicated" topic but added: "Our American partners – in contrast with what was happening in the past years – have taken a pause and are studying the situation and based on this will formulate their final position.

"So at least it is a step forward to reach a compromise on this quite difficult problem."

Analysts welcomed the nuclear arms agreement, although some cautioned that further hurdles remained.

Mark Fitzpatrick, senior fellow for non-proliferation at the International Institute for Strategic Studies, said it was important to reach agreement so a new deal could be signed before an existing strategic arms reduction treaty expired in December.

"The cuts themselves are not that significant. But it does get the ball rolling because arms control has been dead in the water for the last eight years. There's now a prospect for further cuts in the upcoming years," he said.

Kate Hudson, chairwoman of the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament, said campaigners wanted arms reduction to go further, but it was a good start.

"It's the first time that Russia has said that it agrees with the goal of global abolition, which is very significant," she said.

Fyodor Lukyanov, editor of the journal Russia in Global Affairs, said the presidents were agreeing on the easy issues, such as Afghanistan and the nuclear treaty. "On other topics like Iran and post-Soviet countries, compromises will not be enough and one side must change position, which is therefore more complicated," he said.

Masha Lipman, a political analyst at the Carnegie Moscow Centre, said allowing US troops to use Russian airspace to transport weapons to Afghanistan was perhaps the most significant development yesterday.

She said: "It is certainly progress and clearly an act of goodwill, although obviously Russia will benefit if the US operations succeed."

The nuclear weapons deal reached in Moscow put pressure on Gordon Brown to scrap plans to renew Trident.

The SNP's Westminster leader Angus Robertson said the agreement between the big powers "underlines the utter madness of UK government plans to proceed with Trident renewal".

Liberal Democrat leader Nick Clegg said it was time for Britain to play its part by ruling out a replacement for Trident.

Great powers' mission to repair their relations is good news for everyone

THE agreement between Russia and the United States to cut the number of nuclear weapons each points at the other is significant – but hardly for the reasons stated on the box.

In strategic terms, chopping those nuclear arsenals down from 2,200 to 1,675 warheads apiece means they can obliterate each other perhaps seven times over, rather than the previous ten.

The real significance is in the symbolism of the deal. After eight years of strife that began with the arrival of Vladimir Putin in Moscow and George Bush in Washington, Barack Obama and Russian president Dmitri Medvedev have agreed to start talking again.

Their task is to repair relations between Moscow and Washington, which had sunk to hostility not seen since the bad old days of the Cold War.

That hostility was stoked by the war in Chechnya, America's invasion of Iraq, US support for Ukraine's pro-democracy Orange Revolution, the bullying ways of Russian gas giant Gazprom, and America's growing influence in eastern Europe and Central Asia, which Moscow considers its "backyard."

Things bottomed out last August when Russia invaded Georgia, a US ally vital because it carries the pipelines that give America access to the oil and gas riches of Central Asia.

But the global recession has shown both nations that, in this interconnected world, a go-it-alone foreign policy is simply not feasible.

Neither man expects the other to launch a nuclear strike, nor that the new START treaty, due to be signed in December, will remove the ability to do so.

A new Start treaty promises, in fact, a new start. Joint co-operation on nuclear weapons is a signal of joint co-operation elsewhere.

Iran is the immediate focus. Having battled Islamic insurgents in Chechnya, Russia is as worried as America at the prospect of a nuclear-armed Iran. Both governments want to forestall what they fear will otherwise be a nuclear arms race in the Middle East.

For Mr Obama, Russian co-operation is vital for his foreign policy blueprint, which involves solving an interlocking series of conflicts stretching from Israel and the Palestinians through Iraq to Afghanistan.

The Kremlin simply wants some peace and quiet. It will co-operate elsewhere if the United States goes slow on installing its missile shield in eastern Europe, drops its support to bring Georgia and Ukraine into Nato, and agrees to share Central Asia's oil and gas reserves.

None of which means Mr Obama and Mr Medvedev will be friends. But the two powers who together account for 90 per cent of the world's nuclear arsenals have agreed, for the moment, to swap confrontation for negotiation. In a turbulent and uncertain world, that should be good news for everyone.

• Chris Stephen spent five years as The Scotsman's Moscow correspondent.

Read analysis of the US-Russian relationship here


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  • Last Updated: 07 July 2009 12:55 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Nuclear defence
 
1

All or nothing,

07/07/2009 00:04:36
#1

They're just throwing the old stuff away.

It is rocket science
2

Barney Thomson,

Reading 07/07/2009 00:15:21
I think Scotland should reduce their numbers of WMDs by a similar amount.
3

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 07/07/2009 00:18:07

Barack Obama, Certainly making a name for himself, as he Strides to make it a better World, for us all to live in, he has much to tackle, in other Countries that are now a nuclear threat.

4

All or nothing,

07/07/2009 00:24:46
#4

Chuck- two great "leaders". Obama and Brown. Two of a kind.

Just like Salmond and Palin
5

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 07/07/2009 00:38:44

~5.

All or nothing,

Unlike Sarah, our Brown does not lead a flamboyant lifestyle.



6

Barney Thomson,

Reading 07/07/2009 00:39:47
#4
I think Scotland is a nuclear threat
7

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 07/07/2009 00:44:21

~7.
Barney Thomson,

You would say that, living in Reading, but don't worry!, the majority of us only want a peaceful life.

:)

8

All or nothing,

07/07/2009 00:52:52
#6

Chuck- fair point. Salmond is the man who thinks crazy golf is exciting.
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 07/07/2009 00:57:08

~9.
All or nothing,

Could figure1, 'Trump', may have some 'Bunkers' under that golf course he is constructing.

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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 07/07/2009 01:00:34

Maybe I should head North?, but not to North Korea!


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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 07/07/2009 01:26:14


Learning to be 'Diplomatic' goes a Long-Way.

13

All or nothing,

07/07/2009 01:29:13
#13

Part of the problem...is it something to be learned? is it something you are "born with".

Could be a "big debate"
14

Barney Thomson,

Reading 07/07/2009 01:57:17
#8

We here in Royal Berkshire indeed want a peaceful life. That is why we live in fear of Scotlands's WMDs - give them up now!
15

The Col. of Monte Cristo,

07/07/2009 02:10:00
These babies are the essential building blocks of peace, it is crazy to dismantle them.

They should be distributed to all the unstable nations of the world...then there would be no need for all the war and threats of war, to prevent them gaining a nuclear capability.

MAD...you know it makes sense!


16

Fletty73,

Stirling 07/07/2009 02:12:50
Bush had for sale some new shiny Nukes.
Blair had cash for new Nukes.
Blair promised to buy the new Nukes.
Brown had contractual obligation to buy those Nukes.
Brown told us we needed new Nukes.
Brown has no money to pay for the Nukes.
Obama doesn't like Nukes.

To follow shortly.......
Brown cancels order for Nukes.!

17

Barney Thomson,

Reading 07/07/2009 02:23:40
#12
Obviously there was one left that nobody in their right mind would pick
18

All or nothing,

07/07/2009 02:28:54
#18

Aye Barney I was thinking that.

Did you go for Barney Rubble or the Thomsom Twins, but couldnae get either
19

Lynne,

07/07/2009 04:11:50
Hi Charles #6... what kind of flamboyant lifestyle does Sarah Palin live?
She certainly doesn't live in Hollywood... and as a Govenor of Alaska, she doesn't earn as much as other Governors of other states.
Until the elections, not one of you knew who she was!!! Flamboyant is the wrong word to use. She is more down to earth the The One" who hops on planes to hold town hall meetings to sell his Universal Health Program which will help bankrupt this country, and every time he gets on Air Force 1 he costs us over $200,000.00 in this economy.
Now, admitting they misread the numbers, and only a small mount of the this stimulus bill was spent... he is going to push for another stimulus package!!
Bankrupt America, just like California... that is his agenda... he hasn't learned a thing.


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Dave in the US,

07/07/2009 06:49:19
This meeting and this agenda have been waiting long enough. I like the idea of reducing nukes, even if they're just the redundant or obsolete ones. Acknowledging that we're beyond the cold war is something that will play well all over the world.

This is something that could not have happened in the last 30 years, and this could lead to even smarter relations in the future. Good relations is good for everyone as we hurtle toward crisies that require close cooperation. Russia represents vast power in that area, and it's better to have a big friend than a big enemy.
21

McNasty,

Edinburgh 07/07/2009 07:01:18
Finally, a President with some guts.
22

nabodican,

Newton Stewart 07/07/2009 07:19:49
#3 Barney Thomson is quite right, it is time to get rid of these Windmills of Mass Destruction.
23

All or nothing,

07/07/2009 07:25:14
#24

Barney Thomson has never been right before....
24

The Glasgow Ranger,

Edinburgh. 07/07/2009 07:36:10
What about the more pressing issues of Iran,the expansionist policies of Russia,continuity of gas supply to the West etc.etc.?
25

Shape to Shoot,

07/07/2009 07:36:22
obama attends gay pride march
26

Calum Crubag,

07/07/2009 07:37:50
So why is recession hit Britain buying more 'important' nuke weapons? Will they be useful against the Taleban? Will be a deterent against knife crime?

Time for an independent and progressive Scotland that doesn't involve itself in endless war abroad.
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Phil C,

07/07/2009 07:44:05
At last some good news. Now for Scotland to get rid of Union Jack emblazonned Tridents!!
28

Rabhairt,

Australia 07/07/2009 08:08:53
I think it is high time that Scottish Government came clean and admitted
that the Loch Ness Monster ( code name Nessie) is really a huge underwater missile base.


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07/07/2009 09:32:29
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07/07/2009 09:33:10
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Syke,

Off the West coast 07/07/2009 11:04:29
Barney Thomson,Reading

the majority of Scots, never mind the English dont want WMD in Scotland and to go one step further no nuclear power stations either, the issue of control over them lies with Westminster its a not a devolved matter if the Scots get their way WMD wont exist (in Scotland at least) you will have to argue with the English MPs who live in the fantasy world that dear old England is anything more than a "wee" country of the coast of Western Europe, "Great Britain" is no more!
32

Syke,

Off the West coast 07/07/2009 11:10:36
Rabhairt,Australia

shhh! lay off our number one tourist attraction you trying to scare off our tourists! no need to play dirty! :-)
33

voltaire's janny,

07/07/2009 12:11:36
Great Britain is the name of the big island currently home to mainland England Scotland & Wales and forming the largest part of the sovereign state "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland".

After independence for Scotland, a nation currently within said Union, there will be Scotland, and there will still be a Great Britain, but what the rump UK would call itself is unclear. England, Wales and Northern Ireland perhaps. EWNI.

More likely just England. Sorry Boyos. Sorry 6 counties. Maybe a united Ireland will resolve the latter but Wales are stuck with perfidious Albion.
34

Voldemort,

Edinburgh 07/07/2009 12:48:19
The world will never be free of nukes because of the simple fact that you can't 'un-invent' them we have to deal with that and play our part in preventing the technology from falling into the wrong hands ie a country that would 'wipe another country off the map' with them for political/religious ideals rather than defence ....
35

Mcsnagpile,

07/07/2009 13:18:01
So where are they going to put all this useless ageing toxic scrap--- triple A rated. Not in my back garden???
36

Oh Vienna,

07/07/2009 13:28:59
# 35 "...but Wales are stuck with perfidious Albion."

And you were doing SO well up until then. Albion is another name for the island of Great Britain. Therefore, just as in your point above this, Scotland and Wales (as well as England) will ALWAYS be in Albion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albion
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westview,

On one of the many islands, north of the British C 07/07/2009 16:01:58
*35* may I suggest the remnants of the U.K. be called the Former U.K. or F.U.K. for short? On the nuke issue why spend money on the Son Of Trident? Build our own cheap system instead. Delivery systems? Rubber boats and container ships? Mobile robots disguised as rocks ? Why shoud the spies have all the fun with camoflaged rocks? Give some to the military. If we spend all our cash on Son of Trident then we may end up supplying our soldiers with rocks as their personal weapon! Spend the cash on our defence ,not politicians egos.
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07/07/2009 16:31:09
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07/07/2009 18:16:17
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Wally,

By The Rivers of Babylon (USA) 07/07/2009 19:01:11
Dave in the US in #21:

You said that this is something that could not have happened 30 years ago. but it did happen 30 years ago. This is the 2'nd time the US & russia have agreed to reduce their stocks. It is like someone above said, it is likely that only the old nukes are being thrown out. They have a lifespan, if not used during that lifespan they must be thrown out or recycled at least.

an intelligence analyst named Skousen of Utah believes that this reduction occurs because a communist clique has influence over the US government. he believes it will be a 1-sided reduction. and he believes the first reduction was a 1-sided reduction also.
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Wally,

By The Rivers of Babylon (USA) 07/07/2009 20:44:28
Following up on what I said in 42: it was not 30 years ago, but near 20 years ago when this happened. In the early 1980's US president Reagan started his strategic arms reduction talks with the soviets. After soviet union dissolved negotiations continued with Russian Federation and many reductions were made in early 1990's.
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07/07/2009 20:45:20
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Rabhairt,

Cannons Creek Australia 07/07/2009 23:56:56
#34 Syke, Sorry, I will be more careful in future and I won't mention those special "cabers" that are ready to be tossed either, mums the word, Big Rabbie.
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Fitba Krazy,

08/07/2009 00:05:17
Are they trading them in for 2 grand off a new Vauxhall Corsa or a Ford Focus?
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Fitba Krazy,

08/07/2009 00:08:37
Those are actually bigger bangers than the Nuclear Missiles.
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Cabe,

17/07/2009 14:08:32
It's always Russia that takes the first step. Why aren't they a part of NATO? After all they are part of Europe.

 

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