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Published Date: 25 September 2008
PASSENGERS on board Go flight 1002 may have felt a little uneasy had they noticed their plane had flown 15 miles past its destination. That would most likely have turned to blind panic had they known that behind the cockpit door, both their pilots were fast asleep.
The mid-morning aviation nightmare happened at 21,000ft over Hawaii, when air traffic controllers found themselves unable to contact the flight crew for more than 17 frantic minutes.

They finally roused the dozing pair, after making nearly a dozen calls, as the plane headed over the Pacific Ocean on autopilot, away from its intended destination of Hilo.

The Bombardier jet, carrying 40 passengers on what should have been a 45-minute flight from Honolulu, then turned around and landed safely.

The United States' Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has suspended the pilots for the "careless and reckless operation of an aircraft".

They had already been sacked by the Hawaiian Go airline, but it is not known whether they have moved to another carrier.

Captain Scott Oltman, 54, who was also cited for failing to maintain radio communications, had his licence suspended for 60 days.

He has been diagnosed with a severe obstructive sleep apnea, which causes people to stop breathing repeatedly, preventing a restful night of sleep.

First Officer Dillon Shepley, 24, was suspended for 45 days.

The FAA said no action was taken against Go because it did nothing wrong and had provided the pilots with a 15-hour break before their shift, nearly double the minimum required.

The US National Transportation Safety Board has determined the two pilots unintentionally fell asleep on the flight on 13 February. However, it remains unclear why they both dozed off. No problems were found when the aircraft's pressurisation system and carbon monoxide levels were examined. In recordings, an air traffic controller is heard repeatedly trying to contact the pilots and talking to the crew of another Go flight in hopes of reaching Flight 1002. "I'm worried he might be in an emergency situation," he is heard saying.

The safety board has urged the FAA and airlines to monitor pilot fatigue more closely.

It said the pilots had been on duty for four and a half hours that morning, and "were on the third day of a trip schedule that involved repeated early start times and demanding sequences of numerous short flight segments".

The British Air Line Pilots Association said it was not aware of any other incident in which both pilots had unintentionally fallen asleep.

It said there was a requirement for two pilots on aircraft with more than about six seats.

Many airlines' operating procedures include cabin crew regularly visiting the flight deck to bring refreshments and ensure the pilots are OK.

Go, an inter-island carrier run by Arizona-based Mesa Air Group, declined to comment on the suspensions.

FACT BOX

AIRCRAFT passengers may be reassured there are pilots up front, but for much of the time they do not fly the plane.

Flight crew habitually switch on the autopilot when reaching 2,000ft, after take-off, and take back manual control only when the aircraft has descended to that level before landing. At major airports, such as Heathrow, many planes land automatically during poor visibility, using an "auto land" system which has been around since the 1960s.

However, passenger aircraft do not take off automatically because of the high cost of the equipment required.

David Reynolds, flight safety officer for the pilots' union Balpa, said: "It is far better for computers to fly the aircraft while pilots focus on monitoring the controls."


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  • Last Updated: 25 September 2008 9:51 AM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Scullion,

Canada 25/09/2008 01:40:39
It is said that the new Airbus 380 should be flown by a pilot and a dog-the dog is there to bite the pilot should he decide to touch anything.
I'll be the 25 year first officer is thinking, "I wish I could use that sleep apnea excuse."
2

Stewart_in_Oz,

Alexandra Hills 25/09/2008 03:53:00
This is the incidence that is reported. It makes one wonder what does go on. Then there have been incidents of gradual depressurisation when everybody goes anoxic and the autopilot keeps flying until it runs out of fuel. This happened either last year or the year before when a smaller passenger plane in North Queensland kept going and even other planes sent up to try and effect a rescue could do no good. It crashed eventually.
3

Tatties ower the side,

Johannesburg 25/09/2008 05:00:08
#2 SOZ

Yes, just like the flight from Cyprus to Athens a few years ago.
4

Rabhairt,

Cannons Creek Australia 25/09/2008 06:24:54
Looks like they will have to fit alarm clocks to aircraft, the old 1950's ones that would wake the dead.
5

Roamin' Allanski,

Blanefield - Scotland 25/09/2008 06:55:43
#4 Fantastic that made me laugh ....

6

Ticher10,

25/09/2008 07:04:31
why not have computers monitor the computer flying the air bus as the pilots would only get bored and fall asleep anyway.the pilots could stay at the ground control center where they could manage the systems. and that is where hungry barking dogs should be kept.
7

Ticher10,

25/09/2008 07:09:32
okay, maybe if they,d had a couple of naked go go girls on their laps this would never have happenned.
8

Boy Wonder,

25/09/2008 07:28:52
Suddenly I don't want to fly anymore!!!
9

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 25/09/2008 07:58:46
Ryanair would probably charge extra for this flight. Perhaps it'll take on these pilots?
10

D2,

25/09/2008 08:04:38
What a strange little fact box-
Lets have more details on this auto land facility that only exists at Heathrow but has been there since the 60's. At Heathrow as with all other airports poor visibility regularly delays landings as well as take-offs. Not to mention planes diverting to other airports.
flight crew might well switch on auto pilot but not very often at 2,000 ft (try 20,000 ft). even when the system is on someone has to monitor it.
As for the nonsense about automated take off- nothing to do with cost, much more to do with safety.
As the pilots rep said -they monitor the controls while the computer flies the plan -but they are also tained and ready to deal with any problems.
11

Jacqueline Hyde ,

On the shelf 25/09/2008 08:31:53
"The US National Transportation Safety Board has determined the two pilots unintentionally fell asleep on the flight"

Is it OK if they fall asleep intentionally?
12

FISHWICK,

berwick upon tweed 25/09/2008 08:38:34
"Many airlines' operating procedures include cabin crew regularly visiting the flight deck to bring refreshments and ensure the pilots are OK." - BUT THE THOUGHT POLICE IN THIS COUNTRY ARE NOW CHARGING DRIVERS FOR TAKING REFRESHMENTS AT THE WHEEL. IT'S THE BEST WAY TO STAY ALERT! KICK BROWN AND HIS BRAINLESS, CHAUFFEUR-DRIVEN CREW OUT!
13

Duncan in Edinburgh,

25/09/2008 09:14:00
#12 Wow! How much are the police charging?
14

Hey,

25/09/2008 09:14:23
#12

"BUT THE THOUGHT POLICE IN THIS COUNTRY ARE NOW CHARGING DRIVERS FOR TAKING REFRESHMENTS AT THE WHEEL. IT'S THE BEST WAY TO STAY ALERT! KICK BROWN AND HIS BRAINLESS, CHAUFFEUR-DRIVEN CREW OUT!"

Are you really that stupid? You honestly think its okay to 'take refreshments' while you are driving? I really hope I never come across you on the road if thats your attitude.

The best way to stay alert while driving is NOT to take refreshments while still driving - stop the car and then take refreshments or rest for a while. If you are really tired stop the car and sleep.

No wonder so many people still die in car crashes when there are people like you driving.
15

Nellie,

Liverpool 25/09/2008 09:21:20
#12 Charging drivers for taking refreshments at the wheel: Do you mean prosecuting them because they eat their sandwiches or take a swig of water while they are driving? In such a case, too right they should be "charged", without 'due care and attention' at the very least.

(You can't be in proper control of a vehicle if you are fiddling about with a bar of chocolate, sandwich, drink or an apple in one had and the steering wheel in the other; two hands on the wheel all the time except when you change gear, and no lifting of cups or bottles across the line of sight, either - anything else is unsafe to other road users or passengers. Personally, also I'd ban driving when a driver has a severe head cold and especially flu because their reactive response times are as slow as if they'd consumed alcohol over the legal limit.)
16

Nellie,

Liverpool 25/09/2008 09:23:22
#12 PS The best way to stay alert at the wheel is to park the car and some rest, may be a walk or drink some tea/coffee - the key is take some rest, even some sleep.
17

BigG the man who knows,

25/09/2008 09:27:00
"The British Air Line Pilots Association said it was not aware of any other incident in which both pilots had unintentionally fallen asleep."

Soooo, are they aware if incidents where ONE pilot had unintentionally fallen asleep, or worse an incidnet where BOTH had fallen asleep INTENTIONALLY! We need to know!! ;-))
18

John south of Soutra,

25/09/2008 09:34:21
Nellie - I take that you don't have a car, would you also ban bus and train drivers for working when they have a cold
19

Duncan in Edinburgh,

25/09/2008 09:48:43
#18 If someone is incapacitated they shouldn't be operating heavy machinery of any sort. Bus and train companies, not to mention reputable road haulage companies, have policies covering this and will not send out a driver who has head cold or flu symptoms. It would be an unnecessary risk to the public.

Car drivers tend to be the bigger problem because they operate independently and will often drive when it is not appropriate to do so.
20

AJ Fife,

25/09/2008 10:17:29
What's the point in having an automatic pilot, if you canny catch some shut eye after a 15 hour drink and drugs binge!

21

BenNevis,

Walchwil, Switzerland 25/09/2008 10:44:51
Warm greetings to Edinburgh and Scotland
Well, I own a private pilots licence and I would not take off with even a "simple" cold. Let alone accepting responsability for passengers.
The suspended licenses are just an initial step towards an investigation and if it is to blame the pilots they should never fly again. However, it is highly unlikely that both pilots fall asleep and it should be considered that there was a plot behind it. No joke.
Whether we move on our feet, drive a car, or fly a plane: We should think about the possible consequences more sincerely.
Thanks Jaqueline(#11) for your hilarious comment :-)
22

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25/09/2008 11:28:03
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23

Lianachan,

HIghlands 25/09/2008 12:48:11
#10

"Autoland" is not just available at Heathrow - it's all over the place. Although wikipedia is for idiots, and by idiots, it has a (badly written) page that can give you an overview if you're interested:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autoland
24

Brad,

Glasgow 25/09/2008 12:53:12
#23, you is bad man
25

NotAgain...surely!!!!,

25/09/2008 13:27:05
two hands on the wheel all the time except when you change gear, and no lifting of cups or bottles across the line of sight, either

Nellie Shut Up!!

What about sneezing? Shall we ban that too? 3 points on your licence for sneezing at the wheel?
26

mike - across the pond,

hey nellie 25/09/2008 14:29:50
just some fodder for your cannon

Fiddling with your cell phone slows reaction time 35%
drinking alcohol.... 22%
smoking marijuana.... 11%

driving while ill... I dont know...
27

mike - across the pond,

bigG.... 25/09/2008 14:31:04
it is not uncommon for flight crew to sleep on long flights...

BOTH... not so good...
28

mike - across the pond,

scullion 25/09/2008 14:38:46
careful reading of the article....

the 747 can take off and land without any pilot intervention...

747 could do this in 1970...

welcome to the 70's EADS.... lol

which leads me to ask THIS question... WHY dont we automate ALL aircraft, remove any pilot intervention... the only time a pilot could intervene would be if the plane lost contact with the ground... no more hijackings... if a flight encountered a "situation" in the air, the pilot would be instructed to hit the "big red button".... the plane calculates the fuel necessary to land at the closest airport, adds 10% for good measure and dumps the rest of the fuel... and changes course for that landing strip.... game over for the hijackers...
29

Nellie,

Liverpool 25/09/2008 16:37:13
#18 - Yup I have a car (two actually) and I'm an "advanced driver", with police enhanced tuition. And yes, I would ban bus drivers from driving if they have a bad cold or the flu.
#19 - well said!
#26 - Sneezing? If you're sneezing you can't be in control of the vehicle, AND your vision of the road and anyone on it is impaired when you sneeze, you shouldn't be driving. Full stop. So, yes - I would stuff points on someone's license just as I support the same for anyone driving under the influence of booze and drugs, illicit or prescription.
Try driving with one hand only on the wheel in your basic driving test - you'd fail because a) it contravenes the Highway Code and b) it's unsafe. The "advanced" (ROSPA and IAM) tests also insist you cannot control a vehicle unless you steer with both hands on the wheel. If you change gear with one hand it should be done in a moment and the hand used for it, smack bang back on the wheel again as soon as the move is done. Goodness me, it's common sense!
I recommend you get some serious advanced driving lessons - of course, if you think you're good enough already, let's see if you're good enough to pass the IAM, or harder ROSPA tests.
#27 Mike, reaction time after alcohol varies depending on amount consumed, of course. Heavy head colds and flu reduce reaction times such they are comparable for an illgal level of alcohol consumption.
30

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta CA for more WAR VOTE McCain 25/09/2008 17:43:21
Dudes.

These airbus and Boeing jets are programed and designed to fly on auto pilot safely.

So the pilots fell asleep in flight.

BIG DEAL , they woke up and landed the aircraft safety.

They were not flying a Cessna 150 prop machine. Which i fly for fun .
Now in that bird U cannot fall asleep or U crash and burn.

GC .
31

yoric,

25/09/2008 21:16:13
Take away the pilots, most crashes are pilot error, let the computer fly the plane, far safer.

 

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