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Published Date: 02 January 2009
THE woman given the job of promoting McDonald's has revealed the secret of the fast-food chain's success – salt and fat.
In what some might see as a slightly-too-honest appraisal of her company's products, Jill McDonald, chief marketing officer for McDonald's UK, admitted that if the firm removed unhealthy ingredients, consumers would vote with their feet and eat elsewhere.

A move towards healthier choices – including salads and more chicken – has won McDonald's some plaudits among those trying to promote better diet.

But in an interview with The Scotsman, Ms McDonald said the core market remained burgers because that was what the public wanted – along with the salt and fat which came with them.

"Although we are very clear we are a burger business – that is why primarily people come to us – our customers are more aware of the need to follow a balanced diet and we needed to move in line with what customers wanted," she said.

"But fat and salt makes food taste good. There is no point taking all the fat and salt out of your food because people won't like it and they will eat with someone else. We have to make small steps to help people improve their diet."

Ms McDonald's open admission about the staples of the McDonald's menu follows a difficult few years for the chain.

Its reputation was severely hit by the film-maker Martin Spurlock, who documented his physical decline following a strict fast-food diet in the 2004 movie Super Size Me.

Last year, Ms McDonald was named marketer of the year, due to her success in helping to bring transparency and trust to what had become an unpopular brand.

She joined McDonald's in 2006 after working for British Airways and admitted that when she visited one of its restaurants before being offered the job, she "hadn't had a great experience".

Nevertheless, she maintains she was never an enemy of the brand either, and said: "My children eat at McDonald's twice a week."

As well as changes to the menu, the company has relaunched its website to allow consumers to ask questions and find out exactly how much salt, fat and calories are contained in McDonald's products.

But many people would like to see fast-food chains cut unhealthy ingredients in their foods much further.

Fife-based nutritionist Carina Norris said the problem was that people had got used to these fatty and salty foods and liked them. She said: "Ideally, we would like people to start weaning themselves off these tastes and on to healthier options.

"But failing that, it would be great if restaurants and manufacturers did their own bit by taking salt and fat out of foods."

Ms Norris added: "The problem from a business point of view is that no-one wants to be the first one to take fat and salt out of their foods and make them less tasty. People would go somewhere else.

"But if someone like McDonald's would be willing to take this step and people adapted to healthier options, that would be very welcome."

Tam Fry, chairman of the Child Growth Foundation, said: "It is true that humans do require some level of fat, salt and sugar in their diet but not to the extent that companies such as McDonald's have been putting them in their foods.

"McDonald's have tried to improve their menu, but you have to remember that their core business is still cheap, processed food."

Vital for the human diet

SALT and fat are a vital part of the human diet. The body needs a certain amount of salt to function properly, while fat is also necessary for energy.

Nutritionist Carina Norris said evolution had driven people to develop a taste for salt and fat and seek these out.

This was particularly important during times when food was in short supply.

"The problem is that these tastes are much more accessible to us now and so the evolutionary process is working against us.

"We are also a lot less physically active than we once were," Ms Norris said.




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  • Last Updated: 01 January 2009 10:35 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Obesity
 
1

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 02/01/2009 01:35:50

Waspy100 ~1,

Your "Rant" over, now its time for mine! :)

Well I think over the years old McDonald's have made an effort, on their food's, to make more choice of the healthier options

But did anyone notice, last summer?

McDonald's Pricing went through the roof for their food!

Two Adults with two young Children, to feed would cost well over £20.00 at McDonald's!

Who can afford that!, in our economic recession?

As for th "Salt", well if you get fries, one day you think your mouth has,...

.....'Exploded into Thin Air', because of the salt content being, Soo High!

Other Days it 'ain't too bad'!

I stopped going with my DYW, albeit it was at most, twice a week!

But 'Alas'!, We Canny afford it nae more!!

2

Benjamin,

Dresden 02/01/2009 02:03:48
I don't know who Jill McDonald is trying to fool, but this was NEVER a secret. One bite of the "food" produced for customers at McDonald's would certainly have left several clues.
3

K.M.,

Virginia, U.S.A 02/01/2009 03:00:46
Just trying to expose y'all to our culture.
4

C Duncan,

02/01/2009 03:56:04
"By LYNDSAY MOSS AND ERIKKA ASKELAND "

Why can nobody at this paper write an article by themselves? "Now children, split off and work in pairs!"
5

drunken proffet,

Tassy 02/01/2009 05:36:33
Pudding and chips, pie and chips, fish and chips, all healthy Scottish fair, why do you want to eat hamburgers?
6

Ju@nkerr.,

02/01/2009 05:38:01
Charles Linskaill wrote:"I stopped going with my DYW, albeit it was at most, twice a week!

But 'Alas'!, We Canny afford it nae more!!"

Did they stop doing the toy in her happy meal?
7

Ju@nkerr.,

02/01/2009 05:38:56
Why was I banned? All I said was I wished everyone a happy new year. Pretty petty stuff from hootsmon hq.
8

Sinead,

Tanunda 02/01/2009 05:42:10
#6 Do you want chips with that??Since when did Scots have chips with everything?
9

Harry Truscot,

Greenhithe 02/01/2009 05:44:37
Welcome to Nanny State part 97 and all of it's attendant hypocrisy. Why should McDonalds have any concern about the lifestyle choices of it's customer ?
They're in the business of selling burgers and chips, not running a health service and guess what - it's up to the customer to decide wether or not to stuff it's or it's vile offspring's face full of tasty junk.

The supercilious creeping paternalism of invasive Governmence now extending to private enterprise albeit in token form, is just another example of the notion that we all need to be micro managed.

Whilst the Jeremy Kyle layer of workshy nictoine stained tracksuited wasters in society exist,(along with their all too abundant offspring), there will always be some who don't have a clue how to do much other than breath, eat and procreate, but normal civilised folk do not need to be told how to live by greasy politicians and their appeasers in pin stripe land.


10

drunken proffet,

Tassy 02/01/2009 06:08:31
#9 I suppose since we started growing spuds.
11

Pocket Dictionary,

02/01/2009 07:30:37
This Mcdonald's bashing never ceases to amaze me. McDonald's always seem to be taken in isolation, rather than seen as a part of the whole Scottish diet.

Go to a football match and see the type of food served up there - Scotch Pies; sausage rolls and hamburgers. You can certainly see the fat content as your eating those. I dread to think what the salt content is like.

Go into a chip shop and watch them add the salt to the suppers. Then have a sly smile when the customer orders the diet soft drinks to go with it! One chip shop had this strap line in their window "we only use vegetable oil for your health's sake". Some of them in my area offer kids meals complete with soft drink and toy.

Near where I work there are four shops and one van selling fried fast food from 8am - 2pm, along with the meat pastries. And all of them are on the route to the nearby high school. I see the kids walking up to school for 9am, munching away on pies and sausage rolls. Same at lunch time, with added chips.

It's not just McDonald's that are feeding our kids fast food, our over-all Scottish diet is terrible. This will get worse in 2009 because families will go for the cheaper, low meat, higher salt content foods from supermarkets.
12

fife runner,

02/01/2009 07:31:52
#10 what is normal? Do you mean obesity now the norm rather than the exception and binge drinking both at great cost to the NHS. Do you not think people still need to be informed how to live if they binge or become obese.
13

Phil C,

02/01/2009 08:09:33
I opened a healthy fast food place in September. I chucked in eco-friendly packaging, low prices, seating. While I have had some success, most folk don't even try us and continue to 'eat' from Greggs, Baguette Express and the like. The ones that have come in think our stuff is delicious.

Even with all the healthy eating promotion, many Scots seem to be be frightened by words like healthy, 100% fruit, 100% Scottish steak, vegetables, low salt, low sugar, low fat, natural, salads etc. Each to their own, but it's a bit sad, especially when you're strruggling to run a responsible healthy fast food business!
14

Mcsnagpile,

02/01/2009 08:25:57
I remember a few years ago I picked up two friends for a night out. They managed with difficulty to fit into the back seat of my car. When the Collie dog got into the front seat the car tilted. The dog has since died with a heart attack. It seems when they had stuffed themselves they then proceeded to stuff the dog. So the reason was sub-culture and some sort of comfort and not taste or hunger or salt or fat. The fast food shops should provide pokers to poke down the food and hit the dog over the head.
15

schmuck281@comcast.net,

USA 02/01/2009 08:55:47
I eat a Double Quarter Pounder every day. I like them. I like salt and put it on almost everything. I like things that have a lot of fat.

I'm 60 years old, 6ft 2 in and weigh 200 lbs.

I don't understand why people that I don't even know think they have the right to tell me what I may or may not eat? Just exactly who dies and left them in charge?

Try minding your own business for a while.
16

A Crofter,

Western Isles 02/01/2009 09:11:10
Mine's a Trumburger!

Do I get a free yellow balloon with it?
17

Andrew.,

Oxford 02/01/2009 09:21:42
#16 schmuck281

200lb at 6'2" !
(84kg at 1.88m who prefer their measurements without the British imperialism).

That's huge. 77Kg would be more like it.
18

Astaroth,

02/01/2009 09:31:05
I like the MacChicken, I find that the added ingredients such as : Eyelids, lips, nose and ears all add a certain special taste to the whole experience.

:)
19

Spoot,

Third rock pool on the left 02/01/2009 09:32:56
#16

Someone who purports to reside in the USA makes a posting to on the messageboard of a Scottish newspaper telling its readers to mind their own business.

Shurely shome mishtake?
20

Phil C,

02/01/2009 09:34:13
#19 'Eyelids, lips, nose and ears' on a chicken? I think I'll give the McChicken a miss!
21

fife runner,

02/01/2009 09:39:53
#16 you are overweight.
22

fife runner,

02/01/2009 09:40:17
just goes to show that overweight has become acceptable.
23

For Scotlands Future,

Vote for the SNP 02/01/2009 09:45:47
#1
I've been on a Cruise Ship in the Bahamas, where they serve full meals at: Breakfast, Morning Coffee, Lunch, Afternoon Coffee, Dinner and Late Night Meal, and you can believe, if you drop in on any one of them you will see the same fat @rse Americans all the time in a feeding frenzy, as though they had never seen food before.

Also agree: If you suddenly remove Salt and Fat, people will notice. Remove it over a course of a few months, no one notices it.

Afraid that Jill McDonald knows there is as much likelihood of McDonald's changing as GW Bush being asked to stay on as US President.
24

The Former Mr. Angry,

Perth 02/01/2009 10:08:51
I well remember having a bit of banter with my sons about their love of McDonalds (which they only got occasionally) and then still in joshing mode asked for their order and a "Chicken McSlurry". Having read one or two posts about the content above maybe I wasn't joking!
25

DeniseX,

02/01/2009 10:11:52
If you think that fast food is dangerous, take a look at these diet products:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=.....r_embedded
26

DeniseX,

02/01/2009 10:15:50
Sorry try this one
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Eep3PJ--Czc
27

scottishcoffindodgerno1,

Tram City 02/01/2009 10:33:58
15#you are a fat sad old man
28

scottishcoffindodgerno1,

Tram City 02/01/2009 10:39:06
sorry 15# I mean't 16#
29

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 02/01/2009 11:21:48
Every few months or so I get a hankering for a fastfood burger.

I know it is not healthy and against everything my endocrinologist recommends for my medical condition.

But it is only two or three times a year and I accompany it with fries.

Please don't inform on me in my filthy eating habits.

#20 Spoot

You are "exactly on the money". If this blowhard is from the good, ol' US of A he has some nerve but I would not put anything past many of them and they are our closest neighbours and allies (we Canadians hope).
30

UserNameTaken,

Edinburgh 02/01/2009 11:36:41
#16
Visit http://www.nhs.uk/healthprofile/Pages/BMI.aspx and you'll discover . . .

"For someone weighing 89 kg who is 187 cm tall:
You have a Body Mass Index of 25.45 . This means that you fall into the overweight range."

But for 62, I suppose that's not too bad. Drop 5lbs (or more!) and you'd be classed as healthy again - Happy New Year!
31

Spoot,

Third rock pool on the left 02/01/2009 11:49:57
#30

Wherever schmuck281 is actually from, I'm sure he's a welcome guest on message boards around the world provided he behaves himself. Let's hope he doesn't send in the Marines.
32

Gdgy,

02/01/2009 12:38:26
McDonalds admit that their main selling point for their food is fat and certain people say that this is PC gorn mad...you couldn't make it up.....
SO the truth is now PC.......
33

saneatheist,

Bixter 02/01/2009 12:58:37
Born in 1951, never had a McDonald's, or a KFC, or a Burger king.
Had a few Wimpeys in the 60s though. :-)
34

Scythia,

02/01/2009 13:48:37
In fairness to McDonald's they have cut out the very damaging hydrogenated fats (known to kill 30k people annually in UK), unlike the ethnic restuarants and supermarket ready made poison.
35

Observer,,

Glasgow 02/01/2009 14:12:10
The whole food industry is guilty of packing it's ready meals and fast food with ingredients which are designed to hook the consumer in to wanting more, not just fat and salt but sugar too. It's quite deliberate and they target children, they all do it, McDonald's just happens to be amongst the most successful.

As an adult it's up to you what you eat, but parents really have a duty of care to their kids and shouldn't feed them absolute rubbish which could lead to serious health problems later on in life.
36

Norrie G,

Edinburgh 02/01/2009 14:17:52
Jill McDonald somehow missed the sugar, the third ingredient that makes its burgers unhealthy.

And what about all the artificial chemicals that go into each burger?

Makes me wonder why the paper needed two reporters to listen to the sweet dreams of a marketing geek.
37

Ewan Oosami,

02/01/2009 14:51:42
MacDonalds? give me a fish supper any day.
#24 I've seen these Yanks on cruise ships, they've paid for aall the food they can eat and wow do they get their moneys worth. After they've made pigs of themselves at the proper meal times they then shoot up to the hamburger bar and continue the stuffing process. This is because once their insides are full they have to fill their empty brain cavities.
38

Harrower,

02/01/2009 15:07:14
I and my other half eat most of our meals at home. We fix healthy stuff so on the rare occasions we do go out we are free to eat all the salt and grease we want. Tastes great and we are both reasonably trim.
39

Pandapuss,

Delaware, USA 02/01/2009 15:09:52
Well not only is Ms. McDonald being honest but anyone ever eaing at the Golden Arches already knows the truth of her statement. A born-bred Scot I haven't liked chips since I was a wee lass (even though there is one place here does fish chips 'just like home') and I don't frequent fast food joints but rarely. When I do it's most likely McDonald's...FOR the fries. It's the salt, the fat...small doses, sure, but the other establishments pale by comparison. Listen, why blame the eateries? We've all been around long enough to know, ourselves, what is healthy eating and what isn't. We make a choice. I prefer natural and organic foods, be it meat or produce but every once in a while my CHOICE is to through caution to the wind and indulge. Big deal!
40

fair scunnered,

edinburgh 02/01/2009 15:22:35
if ronald mcdonald was a cannibal?,would all the kids be his happy meal?
41

Tired of Hypocrites,

Mount Forest 02/01/2009 15:50:34
Some have commented that McD's is in the hamburger business. Wrong! McD's is in the Money business, they just use fast food to get it. If you're in business and can't answer that question, you'll be gone quick.
#10, great comment, wish the world would stop trying to save me too. Cheers and happy new years.
42

Richard Lionheart,

02/01/2009 17:45:50
On a "lighter" note, McDonald's are a major employer in Scotland.
43

Tom Anderson,

USA 02/01/2009 17:51:12
What I find amazing here is the sniggering undertow of anti-Americanism, from the cracks about fat cruise-goers to the statements that seem to indicate that Americans have no rights to post in a Scottish "paper". Perhaps a little education from a "stupid American" is in order here. Your paper is ON-LINE with WEB FEEDS, links and pickups from around the world. It is INTENDED for a worldwide audience.

For the record, you would be amazed at how many in the UK offer their opinions and slams in our US publications, often showing how little they know about US politics or our culture. Funny how so many in other countries like to mock and belittle the US, while they wet their pants over our economy because when we stumble, they fall over. It would be funny, if it weren't so sad.
44

Van (not white) Diesel,

Amsterdam & Augsburg 02/01/2009 18:13:45
I fear Jill McDonald's job is at risk, unless she is related to your man Ronald. Surely the essential ingredients of the culinary masterpiece should be referred to as McSalt and McFat in accordance with long established corporate practice. Furthermore, there has been no mention in the article of McMince, which makes we wonder if it indeed exists in the product.
45

Van (not white) Diesel,

Amsterdam & Augsburg 02/01/2009 18:18:02
#38 Norrie G
'And what about all the artificial chemicals that go into each burger?'
Do you mean McE numbers?
46

DeniseX,

02/01/2009 18:24:40
Seems the whole world is on artificial sweeteners and we can't exist without saccharine or NutraSweet or Splenda. Some people choose them because they actually think an artificial sweetener is healthier than sugar. It is not. All artificial sweeteners are poisons
47

Harry Carnie,

British Columbia , Canada. 02/01/2009 19:57:03
There is no doubt there is nothing tastier than
fresh Macdonald fries.(or burgers)
Chemical masterpieces.

Have you ever tried to heat them up the next day? Unlike "real" fries they are bloody awful......lets you realize what poor quality they really are.
48

Beverly,

New York 02/01/2009 20:03:39
Ah, Tom in #45, pay no mind to the chattering classes.

As for the Nanny State fans: why do you want your Government to tell you what to do about what you eat? Aren't you free and thinking adults, capable of deciding for yourselves? And what do you care if people whom you clearly despise eat themselves to death? Seems to me you should be happy that they're removing themselves from the gene pool.

Parents should be capable of minding what their children eat. Ours would take us to McDonald's, but only when we were on a road trip; therefore, we would eat there perhaps twice a year. Always a treat for us kids, and no harm done.

Also, "fat and salt" are the major taste-enhancers of many a gourmet dish as well. Sheer class snobbery singles out the McDonald's chain for opprobrium.

Lastly, most Americans regard the British with a friendly eye, and would be shocked and hurt to read some of these comments from our cousins across the sea. Happy Hogmanay, to all of good will.
49

Eve,

Scotland 02/01/2009 20:05:35
#18 Andrew: If 200lb at 6'2" and 84kg at 1.88m.

Then the BMI of this person is calculated at 23.8.

A health BMI (Excluding the likes of body buliders & other athletes)is between 18.5 & 24.9 acording to the WHO.

It's a healthy weight for hight. Though if someone eats burgers every day they mey have an unhealthy % of body fat or high colerstal.

You don't have to be over weight to have an above healthy persentage of body fat.
50

Eve,

Scotland 02/01/2009 20:18:52
That poor womans children McDonalds meals twice a week.
I wonder how old they are?

I would hope that this would be the only fast food they eat a week, for the sake of their health.

Any way It can genraly be pridicted, that when these children hit mid-teens are going to start going to these sort of fast food places on their own at lunch time, weekends or eveings to eat these sort of burgers and chips as snacks rather than meals.

For the health of the young adults of the future don't feed yer weans the like of McDonalds more than once a month.

Do we really want half or more of Scotland population to be over wiegh or obse. At the moment it estment to be roughtly a third of the population.
51

Eve,

Scotland 02/01/2009 20:24:21
#54 Waspy100: Sorry I dinna ken imperal measurements.

It's just a rough indecator to weather your a healthy weight, over weight, Obse, Morbedly obse or under wieght.

The NHS and weight watchers websites have BMI caulator on their web page. They do impeal and metric.

Where as I only do metric.
52

Phillip,

02/01/2009 20:25:56
If anyone is surprised that Salt & Fat are the main ingredient's of McDonald's success, then they are an absolute idiot.

Biologically, humans did not evolve in a plentiful situation. As with many animals, we had to fatten up during the relatively plentiful Spring and Summer so that when Winter came and food was scarce, we could survive more easily. The easiest way to fatten up is to eat food with a high fat content. It is only within the past few centuries that food has become so plentiful that we never have to worry about going hungry. Unfortunately, our bodies are still programmed to crave fat. It activates our addiction centers and without thinking we begin gorging as if we must prepare for a long Winter with barely a thing to eat.

Salt has also entered our minds as something to desire because it is both necessary for our bodies proper functioning AND has the ability to preserve food for consumption during the Winter months.

McDonald's and other commercial food purveyors are not to blame for our food preferences. Biology is.

However, we humans are not slaves to our biological impulses. As rational individuals we have the ability to control our animal desires in the service of a greater good. If consumers decided to be healthy, they could easily just refuse to eat at a place like McDonald's, despite the biological temptation.
53

Spoot,

Third rock pool on the left 02/01/2009 20:38:46
#45

If you had actually read the postings to which you take exception, you would see that the objection was not to someone from the USA posting to the messageboard of a Scottish newspaper but rather to his using that posting to tell Scots to mind their own business. Paranoia rules OK?
54

Ms Doreen in the Cyber Shebeen,

02/01/2009 20:43:15
I think the American folk can calm down a bit...have a look on the streets of Britain ...we are rolling around like fat ships on a sea of grease here...but the fault does not lie just with take-away food...look to the pre-prepared pre-packaged and pre-cooked foods euphemistically called 'Convenience' packed full of preservatives and enough 'E's' to keep a rave going for a fortnight..I mean c'mon...what the féck's that doing to our bodies and systems eh?

Bring back hanging thats what I say.....
55

Churchill W.,

02/01/2009 20:54:49
Beverly # 51

I don't think that most British people despise American people as individuals. American politics, prior to the election victory of Barack Obama, were what caused the disdain for Americans in general.
Now that you have taken a new direction politically the credit crunch will probably have an effect on the US obesity problem ;-) Problem solved!
56

Tom Anderson,

USA 02/01/2009 21:20:21
#59, if you had a notion of reading comprehension, I think you would get the idea that the writer was likely talking about government in general acting as a nanny (same problem we have in the USA). Sorry, missed the part where he was telling Scottish people in particular what to do.

#61, you are probably right, but the British people get most of their news about the US from the US liberal-biased press. Citizens in the US that look at multiple news sources for balance can see our President as not without his flaws (like all of us), but also is smart, unbelievably gracious, and wants to do the best for the country. Look up whose administration has done more for Africa AIDS as one small example that you likely never even heard about in the UK.

Finally #61, I would buy that most people in the UK have no ill will towards the Americans. But when we see remarks like those cruise ship ones above--which I have yet to see one UK reader reject by the way--and when I tune into a great BBC program like "Top Gear" and hear that British host call American's imbreds, after a while, you start to pi$$ off your best friends.

Get it? Lastly, if you think Obama is the second coming, you are going to have a nice awakening within the next few months. Enjoy.
57

Kipling,

02/01/2009 21:29:23
The Americans have their own teachers in healthy living. Anyone seen the Walt Disney/Pixar film 'Wall-E'? The story, apart from its cute robot angle, is about a huge spaceship loaded with Americans who are circling around in distant space until the poisoned Earth is deemed uncontaminated. Several generations on the Yanks in their spaceship eat/drink nothing but fast foods, zoom around in dodgem-type gravity-free chairs, and have bodies that have ballooned out of all proportion such that they cannot even stand on their own legs. One of the final 'wow' sequences is of the Captain standing up unsteadily on his own legs after defeating the mutinous Auto-Pilot (which of course doesn't want human life on earth to recommence because as an automaton it will be out of a job). The message about overweight slobs is quite clear. And the final sequence is a bit of 'green' propaganda. The returnees, getting back to Earth, celebrate the relearning of old country work routines of ploughing, farming, etc, to get the Earth back to being a green, brown & blue football again. (Until it's absorbed by the sun or thrown out as a grey rock, but the film didn't get that far into the future.)
58

fair scunnered,

edinburgh 02/01/2009 22:08:25
who says the growth hormones found in junk food ie bk mcd kfc(chicken murderers),why my 10year old ddaughter has a better beard than the taliban can grow,so i will still eat them,lot easier to hold now ive grown extra fingers
59

Spoot,

Third rock pool on the left 02/01/2009 22:25:47
#62

"If you had a notion of reading comprehension ..."

"Sorry, I missed the part where ..."

Says it all, really.
60

Tony E.,

Salt Lake City 02/01/2009 22:49:44
I'm convinced worrying about the fat and salt content at McDonalds is making a mountain out of a molehill. I bet a lot of people who are themselves anti-McDonalds still eat a nutritionally poor diet whether at home or at other food establishments.

One of my friends practically has panic attacks whenever he's in an airplane that experiences turbulence. However when he is back on the ground he drives his car like a maniac without giving pause.

A girl I once dated would avoided high fructose corn syrup (a ubiquitous food sweetener in the States) but she would often out-drink most men twice her size whenever she left her apartment. That poor liver.

The same goes for anyone who over dramatic about McDonald's salt and fat content, but they however, use tobacco, drive recklessly, binge drink, get into fistfights, use hardcore drugs, break the law, have frequent unprotected sex, etc.

Often times there are individuals who "can't see the forest for the trees".
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Tom Anderson,

03/01/2009 00:13:37
Yeah, #65 "Spoot"--

#62

"If you had a notion of reading comprehension ..."

"Sorry, I missed the part where ..."

Says it all, really.

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Terribly sorry, I guess I have to dumb it down from 8th grade level to 5th. The, "Sorry I missed the part" was something called sarcasm; pointing out your foolishness in thinking you read something that wasn't there.

Keep up your replies. Anyone that didn't think you were ignorant will certainly be convinced shortly.
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TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 03/01/2009 02:22:42
#60 "Ms Doreen in the Cyber Shebeen"

If this is REALLY you from times past and some of our "engaged" argumentation, where in the heck have you been?

IF it is REALLY you and not some troll or flamer or whatever

MERRY MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR 2009!
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Jayson Walker,

Western USA 03/01/2009 11:17:17
#6 Don't tell me about healthy. Look into a "full english breakfast" or a haggis and tell me about "healthy". No, McD's is NOT health food, but it *is* improving
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Eve,

Scotland 03/01/2009 22:44:50
#72 Jayson Walker: What are you on? This is Scottish new paper (well by name if nothing else) If anyones eating a full breakfast then it's more likely to be a "full Scottish Breakfast" which interstingly enough has some nicer ingreadent like tatte scones & fruit pudding and some of the more discusing things like bake beans left out. I know a few people who eat it once aweek BUT none who eat it every day.

OH and Haggis can totaly be eaten as part of a healthy diet. In fact most people eat it with mashed trunip (neeps) mashesed potatoes (tattie)and in some ocasions I've had some mashed carrot in with the neeps.

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Hettie,

Budapest 05/01/2009 00:11:43
"I opened a healthy fast food place in September. I chucked in eco-friendly packaging, low prices, seating. While I have had some success, most folk don't even try us and continue to 'eat' from Greggs, Baguette Express and the like. The ones that have come in think our stuff is delicious."

I'm definitely not going to check out your place, sorry, because of your selling point idea. And I don't eat in any of the places you mention either. Actually there are very few places in Edinburgh I'd consider for lunch. So I just get a nice pate+salad or salami+cheese+salad sandwich from the uni shop or pastrami from Rudi's. My taste is very continental and I believe healthy enough.

Healthy eating and weight control is not just about ingredients, but about quantity. If you don't change your diet but eat smaller portions you'll lose weight. Then of course your weight will return to its genetically determined level, but I don't want to discourage anyone by linking to longitudinal studies on weight loss. Eating smaller portions mean consuming less salt and fat anyway :)

"The whole food industry is guilty of packing it's ready meals and fast food with ingredients which are designed to hook the consumer in to wanting more"

I'm gonna feel sick! The supermarket stuff tastes so bad, how can anyone get hooked on it? Although a nice Angus burger from BK.. mmmmm, I like :)
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