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Published Date: 17 January 2009
DEEP in an archive, more than two dozen letters written by Mary, Queen of Scots, lie largely unseen for centuries.


Many are written in a secret code as Mary fought to preserve and protect the Catholic faith in Scotland after the 1560 Reformation which saw the country break with Rome.

But soon the letters, which in recent years have only been seen by a select group of historians, will be available to view on-line.

Visitors to the Scottish Catholic Archives website will be able to examine the letters, which also contain details of Mary's power struggle with her Protestant cousin, Queen Elizabeth, who was on the throne in England. The struggle eventually led to Mary's execution in 1587.

Most of the documents are diplomatic letters exchanged between Mary and Archbishop Beaton, who became her ambassador to France.

He was her "eyes and ears" in Paris after her return to Scotland on the death of her first husband, Francis.

The letters, written in French and often penned by her staff but signed by Mary, also express her concerns over the growing political turmoil in Scotland in the wake of the Reformation, which led to the celebration of Mass being declared illegal.

The letters are part of a treasure trove of 250,000 items on the origins and history of the Catholic Church in Scotland.

Andrew Nicoll, keeper of the huge collection of the Scottish Catholic Archives, has spent the past six years transferring handwritten records from 180 binders into a vast electronic library which should be ready by mid-summer.

The archive, based in Edinburgh since 1958, contains the largest body of material relating to the Catholic Church anywhere in the UK and one of the most comprehensive outside the Vatican.

Viewers will be able to browse through records of everything from the historic archives of individual churches around Scotland to collections devoted to landmark occasions such as Pope John Paul II's visit in the early 1980s.

The archive includes detailed accounts of how the Catholic cause in Scotland was kept alive in the wake of the Reformation and how the modern church was shaped in the 19th century after full civil rights for Catholics were restored in 1829.

The records also contain accounts of how young Scots travelled across Europe in the 19th century to train for the priesthood; some of the earliest written records of Australia; and insights into the lives of 18th-century Scots who had migrated to Nova Scotia in Canada.

Extensive files are also held on the writer Oscar Wilde; the many mysterious sightings of the Loch Ness Monster; how anti-Catholic riots flared in Edinburgh's normally peaceful Morningside suburb less than 80 years ago; and the story of how a priest helped get Hibernian Football Club off the ground.

Mr Nicoll said: "Much of the current collection was brought here by Father William James Anderson, the first keeper of the collection, down from Blairs Seminary, in Aberdeenshire.

"The idea at the time was to make it easier for researchers and historians and bring the collection close to others held by the National Archives and National Library in Edinburgh.

"By the summer, there should be details online of everything that's held in the collection – from the 12th century right up to the start of the 20th century."

Hidden gems to be unveiled from ancient collection

HIGHLIGHTS from the Scottish Catholic Archives:

• Official documents relating to the origins of Hibernian Football Club. It was formed in 1875 by the Catholic Young Men's Society attached to St Patrick's Church in the Cowgate. Some of the club's members had approached the priest Father Edward Hannan with the idea of setting up a team, initially based at the YMCA hall in nearby St Mary's Street.

• An official archive devoted to Pope John Paul's celebrated visit to Scotland in 1982. It lasted barely 36 hours, but included a Mass in Glasgow's Bellahouston Park attended by some 300,000 people, a youth festival at Murrayfield Stadium, in Edinburgh, and an historic meeting with the moderator of the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland.

• Records dating back to 1742 of Fort Augustus, the famous abbey on the banks of Loch Ness, showing how the monks were gripped by the early days of "Nessie Fever". They were so intrigued by the riddle of the Loch Ness Monster in the 1920s that they kept their own archive of newspaper cuttings charting sightings of the "creature".

• The story of John Ogilvie, the 16th-century martyr who was tortured and hanged in Glasgow, but became Scotland's only saint in 1976 after a long campaign to have him canonised.

In 1967, John Fagan, a Glasgow docker, was dying from terminal cancer and his family and parish priest prayed to Ogilvie. The cancer later disappeared in a manner that could not be explained by the medical establishment.

• Documents detailing the notorious anti-Catholic riots in Edinburgh's Morningside area in June 1935. Buses carrying Catholics were stoned and jeered by a crowd of up to 10,000 during a demonstration against a Roman Catholic Religious Congress. It had been organised by the Protestant Action Society and led by John Cormack, a city councillor.

• More than two dozen letters written by Mary Queen of Scots, Scotland's last Catholic Queen, some in her own hand and some in a secret cipher.

Originally held by the Scots College, in Paris, until the French Revolution in 1790 when the college and other institutions associated with the papacy were suppressed and threatened with destruction.


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  • Last Updated: 17 January 2009 12:02 AM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Mary Queen of Scots
 
1

Rufus-T-Firefly,

16/01/2009 23:24:46
#1 When are her bones coming back?

It has gone all quiet.....................
2

Westfield Bairns,

falkirk 17/01/2009 00:38:06
I think it is great that there are so many historical records from over such a long period. I'm not a Catholic, however such records really show what a rich history Scotland has.
3

Observer,,

Glasgow 17/01/2009 00:42:27
4 I agree with you, being able to view these documents on line will be fascinating.
4

SkeptikScot,

17/01/2009 00:48:27
Mary Queen of Scots, good band of the early nineties.
5

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17/01/2009 01:09:01
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Newton_Invented_Gravity,

17/01/2009 01:14:01
Fascinating stuff. Pity about the miserable comments from the usual suspects who just seem to hate everything about Scotland.
7

Dark Lochnagar,

Symington 17/01/2009 02:42:40
They're looking for something for their new school project. Sorry being an unaspirational traitor is not a career move.
8

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17/01/2009 04:15:00
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SkeptikScot,

17/01/2009 05:23:44
I don't know why they bother with comments, it just means a lot of bickering, often off-topic.

#10 Why is there a long essay on recent Scottish finances on here? Surely this should have been posted somewhere else?
10

For Scotlands Future,

Vote for the SNP 17/01/2009 05:50:37
#1
.....and the rest of us put Scotland First!!
11

donald,

glasgow 17/01/2009 07:54:31
The Church of Scotland, particularly the Hyndland parishin ,were shocked at the anti Catholic riots organised by the Rev MacCormack,in Edinburgh and organised relief.
12

Mikey,

17/01/2009 09:22:41
Rufus the racist and his apologists think that we're as stupid as they are! Then again, most unionistas are like that - little people with little brains.

Not content with rubbishing the present, they also seek to rubbish our history. Rufus and all his alter egos, sm753 and all the other low brow unionistas are simply racists, pure and simple.
13

W Smith,

Middle East 17/01/2009 09:42:49
Any mention in the Scottish Catholic archive of Robert Mugabe (Roman Catholic) who visited Edinburgh University and received an honorary degree for all that he's .... eh.. um.. 'achieved' for his fellow man?

If not, why not?

BTW
I'D LIKE TO SEE HIM CANONISED - PREFERABLY STRAPPED TO MONS MEG!
14

carrottop,

Dumfries 17/01/2009 09:52:28
Why were a 'select' band of historians given access to the Mary letters, its our history not theirs.
15

Buspass,

Edinburgh 17/01/2009 09:54:47
So when is the 'Act of Settlement' going to be repealed?
16

albanman,

Edinburgh 17/01/2009 10:24:04
No. 16 WSmith. I see your anti-Catholicism is coming out again. Mugabe may have been educated in a Catholic school, but he certainly abandoned the moral principles he was surely taught by the Jesuits and Marist Brothers. As for Catholicism, Mugabe has actively persecuted Catholic Church leaders (and others, it must be added) in Zimbabwe. He is no friend of Catholic Christianity.

Amusing little play on the term canonisation, but Mons Meg hasn't functioned in some time.
17

Ugly George,

Edinburgh 17/01/2009 10:50:09
10 longdirk macBeth
The press ignored Niall aspen's analysis for the same reason that the current SNP government do. Nobody takes it seriously. It is so full of glaring inaccuracies that it is clearly an attempt in deliberate distortion or an analysis based on no understanding of taxation/revenue issues.

To give you just one example. It assumes that all the duty paid on whisky sold in the UK is paid by Scotland. This is quite clearly not the case. The duty is paid by the consumer wherever he/she is. The whisky companies merely collect it and pass it on to the govt. Using Aspen's analysis we would have to assume that the income tax you pay is not paid by you but by your tax inspector. Similarly, using his analysis, one would have to assume that the VAT you pay on a DVD bought from Tesco is paid by Tesco and not by you.

This is just one (of many) distortions in his analysis. That is why (as I said) even the SNP govt do not use his methods and now issue GERS (with some slight alterations) in the same way as before.
18

Thistledhu,

17/01/2009 10:52:55
Intresting Archive's I often wonder if Queen Mary of Scots was here today what she would make of the "progress" we have made since her sad demise.
19

Thistledhu,

17/01/2009 10:54:58
W Smith; Bigotry and bigots is liveing proof that man is descended from Apes
20

Mr. Lachie Todd,

Edinburgh 17/01/2009 11:05:22
We all conveniently forget that prior to the Reformation every professed member of today's innumerable Protestant churches were ALL Roman Catholics!

What makes the religious argument even more ridiculous is that every single Protestant bigot has a Catholic forefather?

Since the Reformation, hundreds of Protestant churches have also been reformed into myriad offshoots and sub-divisions!

Every time one group disagreed with another, and believed in a different version of the same faith, they simply broke away and decided to form the true church! Where will it ever end?
21

Pilrig,

Livingston 17/01/2009 11:52:07
13 - 'rev maccormack' you mean the semi-literate bigoted buffoon John Cormack, and his sponsors a bunch of daft auld Embra wimmin with mair money than sense
22

Pilrig,

Livingston 17/01/2009 11:55:05
16 the very same e-ba-gum who was shoehorned into power by the Maggie Thatcher government.
23

W Smith,

Middle East 17/01/2009 12:26:36
#25 Pilrig

What are you havering about now?

Whats Maggie Thatcher got to do with Mugabe?

NB
Protestant denominations are, by nature, devolved or de-centralised in terms of how they are governed.

The medieval Vatican was anti-devolution.

The irony is that its the Nationalists who don't get it!
24

Niall,

Cairnbulg Aberdeenshire 17/01/2009 12:56:54
#14 sm753, 17/01/2009 08:59:34
10
Mr Aslen's "analysis" is guff.

He doesn't even get Scotland's geographic share of North Sea revenue right, despite claiming to have read the research by Kemp and Stephen on the subject.

Is this the best you can do? Professor Kemp gives the North Sea allocation at 97.1% I used the figure of 95% to be on the conservative side. If my work is "GUFF" then why has HM Treadury sent me a letter confirming the figures are accurate? Your old pal AM2 tried to discredit my paper and was ignominiously shot down in flames. Can you do any better than make snide remarks?

'S mise le meas
Niall Aslen.
25

Jmhzx,

brighton 17/01/2009 13:02:26
Rubbish!!!!!!!

St John Ogilvie is not Scotland's only saint. Scotsman, you really need to up your game. You're letting yourself down and you're letting Scotland down.

It's a shame.
26

Niall,

Cairnbulg Aberdeenshire 17/01/2009 13:08:19
#20 Ugly George, Edinburgh 17/01/2009 10:50:09
10 longdirk macBeth
The press ignored Niall aspen's analysis for the same reason that the current SNP government do. Nobody takes it seriously. It is so full of glaring inaccuracies that it is clearly an attempt in deliberate distortion or an analysis based on no understanding of taxation/revenue issues.

To give you just one example. It assumes that all the duty paid on whisky sold in the UK is paid by Scotland. This is quite clearly not the case. The duty is paid by the consumer wherever he/she is. The whisky companies merely collect it and pass it on to the govt. Using Aspen's analysis we would have to assume that the income tax you pay is not paid by you but by your tax inspector. Similarly, using his analysis, one would have to assume that the VAT you pay on a DVD bought from Tesco is paid by Tesco and not by you.

This is just one (of many) distortions in his analysis. That is why (as I said) even the SNP govt do not use his methods and now issue GERS (with some slight alterations) in the same way as before.

I think you should read my paper again and then gain some understanding how HM Revenue and Customs collect the Duty on Whisky. Whisky is kept in 'Duty Free Bond' until it is mature enough to be sold. No duty is payable on exports to customers from overseas. However Duty is payable on consignments to the home market as soon as the consignment leaves the Bond store. That duty is then usually paid by the distiller to the treasury on a monthly basis.

Perhaps the reason why the SNP do not use it is because I wrote the paper for the Scottish Enterprise Party who are working for an Independent Scotland outside the EU. However they have used snippets from the paper on occasions without acknowledging their source.

'S Mise le meas
Niall Aslen.
27

Niall,

Cairnbulg Aberdeenshire 17/01/2009 13:38:32
#30 sm753, 17/01/2009 13:24:57
27

Mr Aslen

"Is this the best you can do? Professor Kemp gives the North Sea allocation at 97.1%"

If I sounded short with you, it's because you've been given the right answer already.

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Topics/Economy/17858/ScotShareNorthSeaRevenue

This is the actual Kemp and Stephen paper.

p.34

"The Scottish share of tax revenues was found to be in the range 82% - 87% in the period 2000 – 2007. From 2007 onwards the share becomes higher, generally being in the 88% - 90% range."

NOT 95% or 97%.

The North Sea produces gas as well as oil, and it's taxed too, remember?

You are obfuscating again. My figures are based on Professor Kemps GEOGRAPHICAL AREA because insufficient information was available to extract the true figures from. I used 95% of the geographical area to be on the safe side. I also notice that professor Kemp does not take into account the Crown Estates wayleave rights and licences which I have done. From the purely Oil Tax revenue point of view his 2007 figure is near to the ball park figure without the Crown estates etc.

'S mise le meas
Niall Aslen.
28

Niall,

Cairnbulg Aberdeenshire 17/01/2009 13:45:08
#31 sm753, 17/01/2009 13:26:58
29

"I wrote the paper for the Scottish Enterprise Party who are working for an Independent Scotland outside the EU. "

How many members has the SEP got now?

Did the Electoral Commission let them off the fine for not filing any accounts?

Why don't you write to them yourself? I am not a member so I would not know what the present state of play is. Personally as a free thinker I do not believe in the concept of political parties as they suppress true democracy which is why I refuse to be a member of any political party. However I believe that Independence is the best way forward for Scotland. Face it, this union is finished, its holding Scotland back from achieving her true potential and its time it was decently dead and buried.

'S Mise le meas
Niall Aslen
29

Niall,

Cairnbulg Aberdeenshire 17/01/2009 13:55:25
#33. SM753

No its not me who's obfuscating. Go back to the Kemp Stephens report and look at Chart 2. To Quote "In Chart 2 the estimated share of Total production from the Scottish sector is shown. It is seen to be over 94% in the historic period and in the 95% - 97% range for the future period to 2013."

I think my figure of 95% was pretty close to the mark. By the way, one should not read too much into what is "A HYPOTHETICAL PAPER" as its title says "Hypothetical Scottish Shares of Revenues and Expenditures from the UK Continental Shelf 2000 – 2013"

'S Mise le meas
Niall Aslen
30

Mr. Lachie Todd,

Edinburgh 17/01/2009 14:00:03
Henry Ford was probably correct when he stated:
"History is(more or less)bunk!"
31

Libertarian!,

17/01/2009 14:01:32
Distortions of the truth? The greatest distortions of the FACTS and so - called TRUTH throughout regulated history teaching in 'ordinary schools' has been under
strict control by religous bigots and fanatics who have been allowed by the establishment to poison and brainwash the minds of children who never had the faintest conception about religion whatsoever.
The sooner this obnoxious divisive element is removed from all schools, the sooner we may live in a better and sane society.
Should parents who wish their children to receive such education - which I am not opposed to - why not take them to whatever church or, religious persuasion they so desire.
32

Rufus-T-Firefly,

17/01/2009 15:44:06
15 Mikey,17/01/2009 09:22:41
Rufus the racist and his apologists think that we're as stupid as they are! Then again, most unionistas are like that - little people with little brains.

Not content with rubbishing the present, they also seek to rubbish our history. Rufus and all his alter egos, sm753 and all the other low brow unionistas are simply racists, pure and simple.
==================================================

HAHAHAHA

Moron Mikey spouts drivel again.
33

Pilrig,

Livingston 17/01/2009 17:07:32
26 you brought up Mugabe in the first place - I pointed oot he had the backing of the Thatcher government.

As a Prod and a CoS Prod at that I don't think I need lessons aboot constitution of the Kirk.

34

Churchill W.,

17/01/2009 17:58:01
Mr. Lachie Todd # 23

Brilliant!!!
35

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17/01/2009 19:04:14
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36

Ugly George,

17/01/2009 19:59:52
29 niall
You have admitted yourself the fault in your analysis when you state "No duty is payable on exports to customers from overseas". So if Scotland were a separate country it would not gain any duty on whisky sold elsewhere in the UK yet you include the duty on whisky sold elsewhere in the UK as duty paid by Scotland.

You have discredited your own analysis and it is quite staggering that you are either unaware of this or are merely digging yourself deeper into the hole. We can now see why nobody takes your analysis seriously.

Your calculations on corporation tax are equally erroneous as you seem to be unaware that corporation tax is paid where a business operates not where its head office is.
37

Ugly George,

edinburgh 17/01/2009 20:14:53
29 niall
PS
You have also not replied to the comparison I made with Tesco. Distillers pay duty on whisky to the govt and recoup it from the consumer so it is manifestly obvious that it is the consumer who pays the duty. Similarly Tesco pay the VAT on purchases they obtain from the consumer to the govt.

While the mechanics of the processes are different the principle is evidently the same - the consumer pays the tax and the company pass it on to the govt. So please answer the point I made. When you buy a DVD from Tesco are you claiming that the VAT is a payment from Tesco to to govt and not the consumer. This would have to be the case for your analysis to make sense.
38

JFD HIBEE,

san francisco 17/01/2009 23:44:59
I REMEMBER JOHN CORMACK SPOUTING HIS HATRED AT THE FOOT OF THE MOUND.I HOPE THAT HIS VIEWS ARE READ AND POSSIBLY PRINTED IN THE PAPERS. IT WAS NOT THAT LONG AGO.
39

COLINTON.MAINS,

Oakville Ontario 18/01/2009 00:00:32
who.was.JOHN.OGILVIE.please.thank.you
40

response,

Syd 18/01/2009 00:51:25
John Knox was a good man, long may he be remembered.
Och I.
41

Astarte,

Giffnock 18/01/2009 01:30:45
Interesting to read so many comments on a topic of which the writers know little or nought.
42

e-sterka,

18/01/2009 01:38:23
OK, I am going to start to read.
I am sorry I took a nap :-)
43

e-sterka,

18/01/2009 01:46:09
I am sorry I forgot... Good morning!
44

Pilrig,

Livingston 18/01/2009 11:06:57
48 - The Glasgow Herald once printed a letter from Cormack - and the sub-ed left in uncorrected all the numerous spelling errors and flawed punctuation !
Still, the Orange brethern revere the memory of of him.
45

Niall,

Cairnbulg Aberdeenshire 18/01/2009 12:31:15
#45 Ugly George, 17/01/2009 19:59:52
29 niall
You have admitted yourself the fault in your analysis when you state "No duty is payable on exports to customers from overseas". So if Scotland were a separate country it would not gain any duty on whisky sold elsewhere in the UK yet you include the duty on whisky sold elsewhere in the UK as duty paid by Scotland.

You have discredited your own analysis and it is quite staggering that you are either unaware of this or are merely digging yourself deeper into the hole. We can now see why nobody takes your analysis seriously.

Your calculations on corporation tax are equally erroneous as you seem to be unaware that corporation tax is paid where a business operates not where its head office is.

Discredited my analysis. Not at all these are the ACTUAL CASH RECEIPTS received by the treasury. My paper has absolutely nothing to do with an Independent Scotland but reflects the reality of how the revenues were raised. Now regarding Corporation tax, there was a deliberate effort made to downplay the actual receipts, the figure was so ridiculously low £2.42 Billions. The Royal Bank alone remitted £2.38 Billions alone to the treasury. I checked the Top 500 Scottish companies and found they had remitted at least £5.55 Billions to the treasury. I checked on the company accounts lodged at Companies house to confirm this figure. Remember these are actual receipts recieved by the treasury and not the seriously flawed provisional pre budget report on which GERS was based.

'S Mise le meas
Niall Aslen.

 

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