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Lack of funding set to end Auschwitz trips



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Published Date: 02 August 2008
ONLY two Scottish councils have confirmed they will fund pupil visits to Auschwitz this year and none can promise to pay for the trips after the money runs out in 2009.
An investigation by The Scotsman has revealed that while English pupils will continue to benefit from a scheme to send two children from every secondary school in the UK to visit the site of the concentration camp in Poland, Scottish youngsters will
miss out.

Treasury funding originally made the trips possible in an attempt to ensure younger generations never allow the horrors of the past to be repeated.

But when the funding runs out next year, only the English education department has confirmed additional money. Most of Scotland's 32 local authorities have said it will be up to individual schools to decide whether to pay for the trips and headteachers have already warned squeezed budgets mean they cannot afford it.

The Scottish Government has said funding must come from within the concordat deal with councils. However, cash-strapped councils say they cannot afford the trips.

Teachers have already threatened to strike because of cuts to educational resources and headteachers say they need greater funding to introduce the new curriculum as their priority.

Glasgow City Council and Clackmannanshire Council were the only local authorities to confirm they had directly funded places on two planned trips organised later this month by the Holocaust Education Trust. Other authorities said payment would have to come out of a school's individual budget.

Labour MSP Ken McIntosh, who has campaigned in favour of the trips, described the move as hugely disappointing. He said: "The trips organised for November will likely be the last. The subsidy of £200 per person can make a huge difference between someone going or not going."

A Scottish Government spokesperson said: "This government has provided record funding and freed up local authority budgets so that they have the freedom to consider the contribution that study opportunities such as visits to Auschwitz might contribute to meeting agreed national outcomes, and make them available to pupils."





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  • Last Updated: 01 August 2008 9:43 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Lillig,

02/08/2008 00:31:33
Having studied some aspects of the Second World War in detail, including the concentration camps, I cannot understand why this sending of our young to Auschwitz is considered necessary.

Countless books, photographs - and films / documenaries - exist which more graphically retell what happened to real people. The former camps meanwhile are peopled only by ghosts.

"Treasury funding originally made the trips possible in an attempt to ensure younger generations never allow the horrors of the past to be repeated".

What does this mean exactly? Since the Second World War, the world has been full of such horrors. Cambodia, Yugoslavia (?). Rhodesia, to name only a few. And prior to the World War II, the history of humanity has been punctuated by such horrors; the extermination of the Incas, the Spanish Inquisition, the horrors inflicted by the Roman Empire - and every Empire.

This holocaust was clearly not the first, not the last, not the only one. I am personally sick of hearing that we should never forget lest history repeats such horrors. Looking at my brief list above, it seems that we are only interested in what happens to certain groups of people, not the rest of humanity. For example - what about the Palestinians?

Clearly life is complicated and human nature is not as benign and caring as we would like it to be. And me - I abhor what happened to the Jews, the gypsies, the mentally disabled and the homosexuals during WWII.

But sending our children to Auschwitz to hear only one story is not going to change things - or is it?
2

Guga II,

Rockall 02/08/2008 02:46:00
#1 Lillig.

I couldn't agree more. What a total waste of taxpayers money.
3

james 1st,

hamilton nz 02/08/2008 03:18:29
i cant understand this british fascination with the holocaust, were not many of the victims jewish rather than british, subsequently were not a large number of young british, including scottish, servicemen murdered by jewish terrorists palestine. why all this sympathy for studying the holocaust, teach youngsters about the murder of young british servicemen instead
4

W Smith,

Middle East 02/08/2008 05:11:25
Typical SNP views on the jews and Israel being expressed here.

Salmond would rather sympathise with the Palestinians who supported Hitler, Saddam Hussein and Idi Amin.

Salmond is supporting muslim 'education' in Scotland and has gvien taxpayers money to Islamfest.

Salmond has appointed Osama Saeed of the Muslim Brotherhood to look at ways to get rid of Trident.

Salmond's political friends were demonstrating outside NATO headquarters in Belgium recently chanting "Liberty for Palestine".

SALMOND HAS MADE IT PRETTY CLEAR WHICH SIDE HE IS ON.

HE DOESN'T SUPPORT OUR SCOTTISH SOLIDIERS IN AFGHANISTAN BUT DEMONSTRATES PUBLICLY WITH THE COMMUNISTS AND JIHADISTS AT STOP THE WAR COALITION RALLIES.

THIS HAS BEEN NOTED.
5

W Smith,

Middle East 02/08/2008 05:23:27
According to one British Army officer, British muslims are fighting with the Teliban against NATO forces in Afghanistan.

Salmond would have us believe there is possibility that any of them can be from Scotland as they are more 'patriotic' than the muslims in England.

Where did clown Salmond get that wacko theory from then?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/2485750/British-Muslims-fighting-with-Taliban-in-Afghanistan.html
6

james 1st,

hamilton 02/08/2008 07:07:14
#4 i support the snp and ou will note from my comments that i object to sympathy being extended to israel as a result of the holocaust. israel was founded on the murder of young british servicemen not by palestinian terrorists , but by jewish terrorists
7

james 1st,

hamilton 02/08/2008 07:07:15
#4 i support the snp and ou will note from my comments that i object to sympathy being extended to israel as a result of the holocaust. israel was founded on the murder of young british servicemen not by palestinian terrorists , but by jewish terrorists
8

gus1940,

Edinburgh 02/08/2008 08:54:57
How about setting up a fund to send the likes of Blair, Reid, Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Wolfowitz and McCain on a trip round the World War 1 Battlefields.

It might open their eyes a bit about the wars they are so keen on and the millions they send to their deaths.

I have visited the battlefields twice and it is a very moving and thought provoking experience.

It might be an idea if all politicians, in particular those who advocate military action, were sent on such trikps before they were allowed to take office.
9

Pilrig.,

Livingston 02/08/2008 10:43:35
8 - how about getting a fund to send them to join Karadzic in the Hague ?
10

Neil,

Glasgow 02/08/2008 12:19:00
The question of funding pupils to visit the Jasenovic camp in Croatia never even hits the political radar. There Jews & Gypsies were murdered but mainly Serbs. The political reasons why, during the cold war, the 24 million Soviets & 2 million Serbs murdered by the Nazis were airbrushed out of the history is obvious. The Jews thereby got elected as exclusive victims of genocide. I submit that if our media & education system had not conspired to engage in the censorship of the vast majority of Nazi genocide there is no possible way that the British people, who are basicly decent, would ever have supported our wars to assist(ex-)Nazis publicly committed to more genocide or accepted the racist demonisation of Milosevic & Karadzic.

I note the Scotsman is not allowing comments here on the short article about Karadzic daring to say that demonisation by the media will make a serious trial impossible.
11

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02/08/2008 15:16:13
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Richardinho,

02/08/2008 19:11:21
No disrespect to anyone who died in the holocaust, but it really has little to do with us. There are a lot more important things we should be spending our money on.
13

James Donald,

Newbridge 02/08/2008 23:48:37
#10 Neil,Glasgow - "the 24 million Soviets & 2 million Serbs murdered by the Nazis were airbrushed out of the history is obvious" - Why do you persist in stating this obvious falsehood? The Soviets and Serbs killed in WW2 were not all "murdered" and even those that were murdered were not all murdered by the Nazis. Most of the Soviets killed in WW2 died in action, often dying unnecessarily because of the incompetance or callous contempt of their own commanders. Some died because of Nazi atrocities, others died fighting Ukrainian, Estonian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Polish, and other non-Soviet partisans. Yet more died fighting the Finns, Bulgarians, Romanians, Hungarians, Italians and Japanese. Some died as POWs in German camps and in Soviet Gulags because they had allowed themselves to be captured. Others, such as the Cossacks and Vlassov soldiers were executed by the Soviets themselves or died in action. The same story is true of the Serbs; some died in action in what was virtually a civil war, some were victims of atrocities perpetrated by the Germans, Ustashi, Chetniks and Partizans.
"24 million Soviets & 2 million Serbs murdered by the Nazis" is an utter nonsense as are most of your posts.
14

James Donald,

Newbridge 02/08/2008 23:52:01
If there is a shortfall in the funding, perhaps the State of Israel, the Board of Deputies of British Jews, the World Jewish Congress or some of the many holocaust foundations could make up this shortfall.
15

Lobeydoser,

04/08/2008 01:10:31
From some of the comments anyone would think that there had been no British citizens incarcerated in Auschwitz.

Some of the bloggers here might have qualified for Auschwitz - probably on the payroll!
16

Dave from Barra ©,

Western Isles 04/08/2008 11:05:27
Wouldn't it make more sense if the pupils were sent to the Original Concentration Camps in South Africa (Boer War) that us, the Brits invented?
17

Bend Over,

06/08/2008 20:58:11
Why no trips to the Gulags at taxpayers expense ? Oh thats right, the Commies killed 10 times as many as Hitler but they were our allies so thats OK.
18

Climate change is a fraud,

07/08/2008 16:29:24
No matter. We'll all get to see the death camps soon. Don't believe me?

Half-a-million plastic coffins in the middle of Georgia (close to Center for Disease Control).

Video of site
http://www.infowars.com/?p=3462

Coffin manufacturer
http://www.polyguardvaults.com/index.cfm?ID=9

FEMA Camp Footage (Concentrations Camps in USA)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P-hvPJPTi4

EU concentration camps?
The garrulous Rocco Buttiglione – commissioner-designate for justice, freedom and security, has teamed up with Otto Schilly, the German federal minister of the interior, to recommend "reception camps" in north Africa to "filter" immigrants from the South of the continent on their way to EU countries.

Sounding suspiciously like concentration camps, there is more than a little historical resonance in the fact that they are being championed by a German and an Italian politician in what may well come to be dubbed "the final solution" to the immigration problem.


Concentration Camps Await EU Dissidents
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=8134



Crackdown on dissent in the EU and death penalty for dissidents (In German. Ed.):
http://globalfire.tv/nj/07de/politik/eu_bolschewismus.htm

 

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