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Bored pupils escaping the teacher's rap with hip hop



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Published Date: 16 August 2008
EDUCATION bosses have come up a with a bizarre way to stop bored and disruptive teenage girls from dropping out of school – hip hop classes.
Pupils on the verge of leaving or being thrown out of school will be taught bounces, body ripples and butt spins to the music of Kanye West and 50 Cent in a bid to spark their enthusiasm in learning.

Educational experts believe the pilot project
will re-engage troubled youngsters who have been playing truant or behaving badly.

If successful, the project, developed jointly by dance charity Showcase the Street and Angus College, could be rolled out across the rest of Scotland.

Fergus Storrier, a community policeman and chair of the lottery funded group, yesterday said the classes were not a "soft option" and warned girls would not be allowed to slack off.

"We want the course to act as a vehicle to re-engage them, but we will be setting ground rules," he said.

"We don't want to simply take them out of school and that is all they do. There will be a clear understanding that this is an add-on, conditional on carrying out their normal school work."

The 60-hour scheme teaching basic moves has been accredited by the college to provide six Scottish Credit and Qualifications Framework credit points. A Higher is worth 24 credits.

Initially, 15 youngsters from Arbroath will enrol.

Iverene Bromfield, curriculum manager for communication, arts and social sciences at Angus College, said it would teach the girls useful skills. She added: "This qualification will be of use anywhere where people are trying to enthuse and inspire youngsters. It will promote a can-do attitude and give them a sense of achievement on which to build."

However, critics insisted disruptive and bad behaviour should not be rewarded.

Elizabeth Smith, Conservative schools spokeswoman, said: "It is up to individual headteachers if they think it would be appropriate for some pupils. It may be that some pupils will respond, but I would be sceptical.

"It is very much our policy that pupils who are persistently disruptive should be removed from class until they learn to behave and that is popular with teachers and parents alike."

However, teachers refused to knock the scheme. Jim Docherty, depute general secretary of the Scottish Secondary Teachers' Association, said: "There have been various initiatives of this type and while it is maybe a bit unusual it may have a function.

"The SSTA has no objection to anything that retains contact between children and the education system."

There are an estimated 35,000 teenagers in Scotland who choose to claim benefits rather than study or work.

A study by Westminster's education department in 2002 calculated each such youngster cost the country £45,000 in benefits.





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  • Last Updated: 15 August 2008 9:56 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Teaching
 
1

Beth Boyle,

NY 16/08/2008 03:06:12
Hip Hop is garbage and I am ashamed it has been exported from here to Scotland. It is the music of street gangs and anti-social thugs!
2

Mark Renton,

Edinburgh 16/08/2008 04:42:47
I'll second that. Utter garbage.
3

fife runner,

16/08/2008 06:10:04
agree. also, if they wnat to drop out let them. Big mistake making kids stay on until 16 and will be even bigger one if age raised to 18.
4

Boy Wonder,

16/08/2008 06:35:29
#1 - #3. Old fuddie-duddies!

Hip-hop isn't for you anyway! The kids love it and that's what matters! And if we can get them interested in other things through the medium of Hip-Hop ... or anything they have the least bit interest in ... it's worth the energy to get them involved in something useful to them ... and ultimately society!

Personally, I like it. My back has suffered, but it remembers floor spins to the dying fly and pogoing like mad a few too many years ago!! :D
5

Beth Boyle,

16/08/2008 07:35:38
#4 Fuddie duddie I am not. I just think listening or dancing to music that is so anti-women and anti social is disgusting. Nuff said.
6

musicmadmama1,

16/08/2008 09:03:49
*3 The plan to raise the compulsory education age to 18 is going ahead in England and Wales but not in Scotland. If Labour had remained in power here then Scotland would have been raising the age as although Education is a devolved issue Joke McC had already said he would do what Westminster said. This idea was rejected by the SNP led Scottish Gvt - here in Scotland it is to remain at 16.
7

musicmadmama1,

16/08/2008 09:21:25
*5 Not all hip hop is anti women etc. Although much of the hip hop heard on radio and TV is mainstream and too much like pop pap to me, there are some awesome alternative hip hop artists whose focus is on important issues. Saul Williams the poet and alternative hip hop artist is a vocal critic of the war in Iraq, the war on Terrorism and has written some incredible lyrics and poetry. Came across him when he was support for Nine Inch Nails and have seen him live twice since then plus attended his poetry reading at the Fringe a few years ago..extremely nice, friendly and interesting man -I have rarely been so inspired or moved by anyone so much, same goes for my kids. My 16yo recently introduced me to the work of Sage Francis and again I am finding his work challenging and interesting.
8

musicmadmama1,

16/08/2008 09:23:32
*4 Boy Wonder - have been wondering if are you going to the Learning Without Limits Conference?
9

AMM,

Perth 16/08/2008 09:46:47
Excuse me, but this idea will not encourage kids to go back into school not one bit. It'll just encourage them to stay out of school, not to mention that not all children like hip-hop.
10

Dougie, Edinburgh,

16/08/2008 09:48:57
If the purpose of school has become the spreading of black American ghetto culture, these children are surely better off dropping out.
11

Douglas,

Bathgate 16/08/2008 10:26:05
Looks like it's not just the fish they're smoking in Arbroath. :o)
12

Mcsnagpile,

16/08/2008 12:19:30
Hip Hop was invented in the States to get the kids out of the Trailer for a while.
13

Logie Almond,

16/08/2008 12:47:41
Pathetic. Just how low can the once-proud Scottish education system sink?
14

the earthtracer,

Angus 16/08/2008 13:11:20
I find the remarks of #1-3 and #9-13 extremely bigoted and biased. I wonder how many of these people have looked at the "Showcase the Street" web-site at: http://www.showcasethestreet.co.uk/index.htm ?

Given the sad state of the school system these days, there will always be children who simply do not fit and efforts to engage them are to be applauded.

Hip Hop is energetic, stimulating and fun. It has had a very bad press, because the media always sensationalise and pick on the worst aspects of everything. In fact, it has saved lives by taking kids out of violence and into creative art-forms. Some of the beliefs can be found on the site of "The Universal Zulu Nation" - and are, imo, a lot more positive than much that is found in Scotland or the UK today. See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hip_hop

We might prefer that Scottish children should be taught the Highland Fling and the Sword Dance. However, that is not the point and I do wish that comfortably off middle-class armchair commentators would think - and even do a little research - before sounding off.
15

nolimits,

Kamloops, BC 16/08/2008 15:41:58
If kids are bored or feel that they are not being taken seriously, they will drop out or play hooky. My two eldest sons were on the verge of quitting school, until a smart, attentive guidance councilor figured out how to channel their energy. He put them in a work placement program, in a logging show. They were in camp 6 weeks, and out for one week. The camp foreman made sure that all schoolwork was done, as well as the labor for 12 hrs/day. To make a long story short, one son is now a Professional Forester, and the other is a woodlands manager. So, all of you that are still stuck in the Industrial Age Education syllabus, times have changed, move with them.
16

Dougie - Edinburgh,

Edinburgh 16/08/2008 17:56:22
14 the earthtracer
Can you please firstly explain why you use "comfortably off" as a form of disparagement? The implication is that you consider the opinions of the financially incompetent to be more valuable? Likewise, "middle-class", the only implication I can see here is that to you, "working-class" is more genuine. Of course, in modern Scotland, the term "working-class" is mainly used as a form of inverse snobbery, a self identification for people who are quite materialistic, shallow and aspiring to increase social status that they're better described of as middle class. Perhaps you're one of them?

It's ironic that you throw around words like bigoted and biased because a categorisation of others as "comfortably off middle-class armchair commentators" is by far the most bigoted post in this thread.

Although you acknowledge "the sad state of the school system these days" it's the very kind of self-righteous pompous rubbish you espouse which is in large part responsible.
17

Dougie - Edinburgh,

Edinburgh 16/08/2008 17:56:50
14 the earthtracer
Hip hop may be energetic, stimulating and fun, I’m sure plenty of other black American ghetto cultural expressions are equally energetic, stimulating and fun, for example crack cocaine dealing, drive by shooting, promiscuity and running from the police. That doesn’t mean schools in Scotland should be encouraging any of them.
18

keystone,

Wisconsin USA 16/08/2008 18:52:14
There are more Black males between the ages of 18 and 24 years in PRISONS in America, than there are males of that age in Collages. One need have no doubt that almost every one of them was well schooled in the art of HIP HOP dancing, and the hip hop dancing helped prepare them for a life on crime, and a life spent in different prisons. Only a totally out of touch with reality person, as so many academics are, would think for an instant that teaching hip hop in tax payer funded schools had the least bit of value in preparing anyone for the challanges of being successful in life. But if an individual considers a prison cell a worthy goal in life, then by all means, they should take all of the hip hop courses they can fit in. And when they go away to do their time, hopefully they will take their out of touch with reality, aka, brain dead teacher with them.
19

Beth Boyle,

NY 17/08/2008 03:26:43
Teaching anything that is associated with ganster culture in schools in ill advised I think. It certainly will not keep students in school and who wants to walk around Scotland seeing hip hop dancing? Worse who wants to hear that dreadful music? Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek!
20

Dance,

Dundee 20/08/2008 18:35:37
Dear oh dear, so if someone comes from a black american ghetto they are a dealer, or are involved in drive by shootings, thought we were better in Scotland than still having those thoughts but guess those people are still out there eh!, plenty of areas of Scotland who already suffer from that from of drug taking and violence! Hip Hop is actually a mix of dance styles, it is a hugely popular dance style, and young people enjoy it for the style of dance, not the music. Perhaps some people on here haven't quite grasped why this course was created? It is here to try and engage with a small amount of young people who may not fit in totally with school, it isn't stand alone but sits alongside other subjects as well. So what is better to use a credible dance form, or let them drop out? I know what I think the better option would be for sure. Dance is a Higher subject at school already, it sits alongside PE as a subject so what is wrong with having a dance style which is carefully structured also sitting there on a vocational level? The Space, Scotland's Comtemporary Dance School who produce world class dancers have a started course with elements of Hip Hop there in, it allows young people to come into the college and try dance as a career, many have gone on to grace some great stages in the world. The sad thing here is that times move on but some people don't, to say Hip Hop is about guns and violence is rubbish, what is being tried here is a dance style, a style that has been introduced by a charity, thats an organisation run by people in their own time, a charity who I believe already keep 1000 kids a week off the streets. Life is all about innovation and change, sometimes those who criticise find that easier to do!! As for Hip Hop music being dreadful, it's origins came from the same areas as Jazz and all that cultured stuff, but that's okay isn't it. I for one applaud the innovation and if it's puts some kids on a positive route then good for them. Again I'm pretty ap

 

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