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Hearts war memorial to return to Haymarket



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Published Date: 08 October 2008
THE Hearts war memorial will return to Haymarket within a metre of its current location, city leaders pledged today.
The monument will be put into storage later this year to allow tram works at Haymarket junction but fears that it will not return to its historic home have been quashed.

As the Evening News previously revealed, a temporary stone will be laid in
nearby Atholl Crescent to act as a memorial until 2011, when the clock will be returned to a spot near its current location.

The news was today welcomed by Hearts and by monument campaigners, who revealed they have applied to Historic Scotland to have the memorial upgraded from its C-listed status.

A report by tram firm TIE, which recommended moving the monument permanently to Atholl Crescent, last week led senior SNP councillors to say the memorial was definitely staying at Haymarket. However, the city's transport leader Phil Wheeler then told the News a decision had not been taken.

City leader Jenny Dawe and deputy leader Steve Cardownie have now issued a statement confirming the memorial will be "permanently sited at Haymarket following completion of the tram works".

Jack Alexander, of the Friends of the Heart of Midlothian War Memorial campaign, gave the news a cautious welcome.

He said: "The clarification is good news but we will carry on with our campaign, we need to get the Historic Scotland listing improved, it is something which probably should have been done 30 years ago.

"We're not terribly happy with the two-year absence. The only people who want to have a two-year consultation are the officials who propose moving it to Atholl Crescent."

There doesn't appear to be a need for the consultation period in that the settled will of the people of Edinburgh is that they would like the memorial back at Haymarket.

"This whole business of Atholl Crescent as a temporary site is something they've decided and presented to everybody. The football club didn't ask for that, neither did supporters. Atholl Crescent is by no means certain. It may well be that, during the course of the two-year period, there could be another site for the war memorial.

Haymarket junction is 200 yards wide. It shouldn't be difficult, unless you have an agenda to remove it altogether."

The memorial was built by the Gorgie club in 1922 to remember the team's footballers who had signed up to fight in the First World War.

Although this year's annual memorial service will go ahead as normal, the 86-year-old monument will have to be relocated from Haymarket junction to accommodate the tram line.

Councillor Cardownie said: "It was important to allay the fears of both Hearts supporters and the wider public.

"The memorial was always to return to Haymarket, the best place to be seen to remind people of the sacrifice of these brave men, particularly on Remembrance Sunday.

"It will return to Haymarket, and to a stone's throw away from where it is currently located."

Hearts were the first team to enlist in the Great War when the whole side joined up. In total, 30 players served in the Army, and they were followed by other Scottish teams, including Hibs.

A Hearts spokesman said: "The Heart of Midlothian Football Club war memorial is every bit as important as Tynecastle Stadium itself.

"There is one home and one home only for the war memorial and there should be an immediate reinstatement of the memorial to Haymarket on conclusion of the tram works."





The full article contains 594 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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1

Happy Hibee,

08/10/2008 12:09:36
Glad to see it will be back in Haymarket and the men who served will be remembered on the 11th, as they should be.

I do however doubt there was ever any real intention to move it on a permanent basis (even tie are not that stupid) but for the Councillors to say that they stopped such a move, will get them some credit, where none is really due.
2

CBJambo,

08/10/2008 12:37:40
#1
Well said!

3

Tukhachevsky,

08/10/2008 12:40:02
I wouldn't be surprised #1.

If there was no intention why the talk of consultation?

Well done Jack and everyone else involved with the petition and in raising public awareness.
4

GOA-JAMBO,

Back Hame 08/10/2008 12:50:13
#1 Yes well said indeed,, best result we have had in a long time !
5

Voice of the mysterons,

Mars 08/10/2008 12:54:15
If there was a decision made it was the correct one. What are the odds now on LLLord FFFoulkes taking credit for it in next weeek's EN column?
6

Jams,

Edinburgh 08/10/2008 12:57:38
Good news indeed but forgive my cynicism - can we have it in writing please?
7

Howard Moon,

08/10/2008 12:58:01
Agreed. I suspected this was the plan, although you would have thought poor old Cllr Wheeler might have been able to take the credit for it. I bet he's giving Cardownie daggers in the honesty canteen today, for blowing his big moment.
8

H185,

gorgie 08/10/2008 13:00:08
Well done to all involved, Im sure all your hard work came as a timely reminder to the council that there are some things in this great city of ours that they cant mess with. Roll on the derby and after we can all remember the great war on the 11th together.
9

East at Easter,

Edinburgh 08/10/2008 13:13:11
Edinburgh needs a better James Connolly memorial. More than the little plaque in the Cowgate. The man was a HERO. And a son of Edinburgh.
10

Ecto,

08/10/2008 13:17:44
#9 you can shove your James Connoly memorial where the sun don't shine just what we need another symbol of hatred and division in the city, clown! Better off with a Billy Connoly memorial!!
11

scorchio,

West of the Pecos 08/10/2008 13:26:08
#9 What a complete plank you are.
We are discussing the War Memorial to some of Edinburgh's finest young people,not some anti UK terrorist.
12

hibbywul,

08/10/2008 13:26:47
Good news al round. The memorial belongs at Haymarket.

Shame #9 brought in some west coast bigotry to this otherwise well constructed discussion.
13

o.a.p. jambo,

on the back straight 08/10/2008 13:28:25
Delighted to see that the contribution made by the players of H.M.F.C. in the 1st World war trancends the rivalry between Edinburgh's top clubs. It should also be remembered that players from Falkirk and Raith Rovers also gave up their careers and fought alongside the Hearts players in McRae's Battalion.
Whilst some of the volunteers made the ultimate contribution, at least one team from the west decided that they would rather win the League title.
14

viewfromgorgie,

Edinburgh 08/10/2008 13:31:22
#9. Why should Edinburgh remember a man that would not even admit to the fact that he was born there?



Or are you talking about a different James Connolly than the one that listed his place of birth as "County Monaghan" in the 1901 and 1911 censuses???
15

Yonthing!,

08/10/2008 13:37:18
Sorry #1, but TIE are that stupid to try and move it permanently.

And good luck to everyone who wants to Remember on the 11th - can't see them stopping the trams they way they stop the traffic now. And it's going to be fun this year with all the road works too.

p.s. I'm commenting on TIE and the Council. I too am happy the monument will come back.

16

Top Floor,

08/10/2008 13:50:50

Absolutely the right outcome. Most credit should probably go to those who highlighted the secret TIE report and then campaigned for this result.

Remember, Councillors Cardownie, Buchanan, Aldridge, Wheeler and Dawe have all publicly contradicted each other on this over the past two weeks.

Clearly they don't know what they're doing but at least common sense has prevailed.

17

senza nome,

08/10/2008 14:58:48
#9.It isn't really the forum to discuss a Connolly memorial but it's interesting to see the bile that spews out at the mention of his name.#10: You obviously don't know much about him otherwise you would know that he spent his whole life trying to unite the working class, regardless of religion, as a trade union organiser.His wife was a Protestant, so can hardly be accused of sectarianism.He totally opposed the First World War, seeing it as a pointless war of the capitalist classes which led to the deaths millions of working class men.Which is sadly why the war memorial was built.
18

PaulB,

Edinburgh 08/10/2008 16:27:04
#9 - how dare you compare a terrorist to the lives of young men who died protecting this country - you are a disgrace!
19

Zugspitze,

08/10/2008 16:59:10
It's not the place to discuss this but number 14 is right. This is about men who volunteered and died to serve their country and countrymen. Whether you believe that the war was just or not (like number 17 mentions) it is still a memorial for brave men of Edinburgh.
Make a memorial in County Monaghan for James Connelly, the so-called hero, I'm sure they would appreciate it more!
20

The Judge,

08/10/2008 18:29:28
I'll believe it when I see it. TIE obviously haven't written it into the contract, so we'll have to hope the councillors are true to their word.

21

Julian.,

edinburgh 09/10/2008 01:22:07
Judge,

Wasn't it you that said last week something along the lines of, mark my words, this memorial will not return to Haymarket?
22

The Judge,

09/10/2008 08:16:45
If it returns to Haymarket all well and good but #21 I still don't believe it will return.

TIE don't have the money to reinstate it, so the money will have to come from somewhere else in the budget which is as tight as a g-string.

In 3 or 4 years the council could turn round and say "after consultation we've decided to keep it where it is" and there is not a thing we could do about it.
23

James Donald,

Newbridge 09/10/2008 08:26:45
#9 East at Easter - "Edinburgh needs a better James Connolly memorial" - You pay for it then. Marxist revolutionary "class warriors" and those who hero-worship them are not welcome in Edinburgh.
24

gordon aka smoker and proud,

somewhere in embra 09/10/2008 09:58:21
so if they are puting it back wheres it gonna be for people to look at? in someones back garden?
25

Skip McClendon,

09/10/2008 11:22:31
This one will have to be watched closely. Much as I would love to think that TIE will pay attention to the will of the people and put the memorial back in its rightful place, their past record of arrogance and ignoring all reasonable input from the public doesn't exactly fill me with great confidence. They are already tearing apart the city to hammer their square tramline peg into a round hole, so I'm sure they wouldn't think twice about relocating the memorial from Haymarket to the back of beyond.
26

leith keely,

edinburgh 09/10/2008 12:27:34
#11 you say edinburgh should erect a suitable memorial to an irish terrorist who was hung for treason in the same breath as the heroic hearts players who gave their lives for THIS country, how dare you insult their memory my comparing them to a self confessed traitor and enemy of great britain, he was no better than osama bin laden at his worst, iv noted some of your postings sunshine and i na nutshell yea slavering guffbag with the mental outlook of retarded dungbeetle, thats you plain and simple.
27

leith keely,

edinburgh 09/10/2008 12:31:08
sorry, my posting was directed at#9.

 

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