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Abundance of Scots stars a feather in Edinburgh's cap



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Published Date: 09 July 2008
SHOULD the idea sit comfortably with his tactical strategies, Edinburgh Rugby coach Andy Robinson would be able field an entire team of Scottish internationalists.
The summer signings of Chris Paterson and Jim Hamilton coupled with debut caps won on tour by Ben Cairns and Matt Mustchin helps Edinburgh offset the departure of Craig Smith and takes the number of players who have worn the dark blue jersey current
ly on the books to an impressive 17.

What's more, there is now a fully qualified candidate for each specialised position, and sooner rather than later it is expected that Edinburgh will surpass last season's best effort of ten full caps in a starting line-up.

Between now and the opening friendly against London Wasps at Murrayfield, coach Robinson and his assistant Rob Moffat have six and a half weeks to settle on a team, but what is already clear, according to skipper Ally Hogg, is that there is scope for an altogether more experienced array of talent to be put on parade.

Besides the satisfaction that came from sharing in Scotland's first full Test victory in Argentina last time out, Hogg admits the icing on the cake was the heavy Edinburgh involvement.

When the final whistle sounded on the 26-14 triumph in Buenos Aires, no fewer than 11 Edinburgh players had played their part, and, in looking back to savour the potential benefits ahead, Hogg paid tribute to the newcomers.

Next up for Scotland in November is a clash with the All Blacks, and with Mustchin having been born and brought up in New Zealand (he qualified for Scotland on residency a few days before the tour) there is an obvious extra incentive for him to remain part of the set-up. As for Cairns, the message from Hogg is that, if he can maintain his current form, there is a fair chance he can expect to confront a haka on his first appearance at home. Speaking at the launch of a partnership that will see Scottish Widows Bank make a donation to a fund encouraging more state school rugby, Hogg said: "Cairnsy stepped up to the mark, no doubt about that. As for Matt he was one of the stand-out performers overall at second row. In the first Test (which Scotland lost) Ben didn't get much ball although he defended well.

"It was great he rid himself of the 'one cap' tag immediately and if he keeps on performing the way he did throughout last season, he'll end up with a lot of Scotland appearances under his belt.

"I have no doubt Ben will feature in the Autumn matches while Matt's effort in finishing top tackler in the second Test win can't be underestimated."

The Scots in the Edinburgh ranks have little time to dwell on their international exploits, as training for the 2008-09 season started on Monday.

"Really there is not a lot of time to prepare for the opening matches when you take into account the need to work on skills and bolster fitness. Day two of pre-season saw a lot of tired bodies and the effort is being put in to ensure that we carry on where we left off in the last Magners Celtic League," says Hogg.

Then, Edinburgh signed off with a 'hat-trick' of wins, but in looking to extend that streak, much interest will undoubtedly centre on who will be next to aspire to international level.

Simon Cross has got as far as being a substitute, while namesake Geoff Cross toured in Argentina without getting the call and both could be thereabouts, while the target for the likes of Alan Macdonald, Calum MacRae and Mark Robertson will be to build on what were notable performances for the A side at the Churchill Cup.

Indeed, given a suitable run, these players could ensure Edinburgh's coaches one day send out a team full of Scotland caps plus substitutes!

Question is: How to break through into a side which the club's strongest supporters will see as having qualified for the Six Nations series as well as the Celtic League and European Cup?

The next few months of rugby are sure to provide some interesting answers.





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  • Last Updated: 09 July 2008 10:49 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Edinburgh rugby
 
1

Michelle Fifer,

Groundhog Day 09/07/2008 12:20:45
SRU Guid Auld Days Memorial Creche back open for business - under the same auld management.

Places still available. Preference given to former alumni or those with Scottish pets.
2

maroon to the core,

Falkirk 09/07/2008 12:35:45
What odds we see Paterson playing his best rugby this season?
3

jbascotinengland,

09/07/2008 13:11:56
"Question is: How to break through into a side which the club's strongest supporters will see as having qualified for the Six Nations series as well as the Celtic League and European Cup?"

Does that make sense to anyone?

Also, is it really a good thing to have so many Scottish internationalist plus those hoping to be capped in the future? Surely it limits game time and will hinder the development young players?

Any chance of a couple of extra professional sides any time soon?!
4

Venachar,

09/07/2008 13:45:04
Too many eggs in one basket, SRU should have kept up the support of London Scottish and not backed out. If and when London Scottish are promoted to the GP it will cost the SRU a lot more dosh than was put forward a few months ago.
5

Fast Phil,

09/07/2008 16:19:08
4#
Why should the SRU divert money away to a club outside Scotland? Money that would be better spent supporting graasroots and underpinning pro rugby in Scotland.
LS will never make it to the GP, first they will have to get out of Nat 3 south which they failed to do this season, then if they make it to National 2 they will an even harder job to get promotion from there and besides there are moves to reduce National1 to 12 sides and probably ring fence that league to form a Premership 2 plus the withdrawal of RFU funding to clubs at National2 & 3.
LS 's ground is not up to GP standard and their co-tenant Richmond have just been promoted to the same League next season so do you think they will be any easier.
Sorry I have little sympathy for LS they sank because of their own finacial mismanagement.
6

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09/07/2008 18:16:37
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7

Toast,

09/07/2008 18:50:03
All the current Scotland squad should be encouraged to play abroad thus gaining valuable experience outside the mikey mouse magners league and letting somebody else pick up the tab for their wages this would allow Gunners and Warriors to give young talent a chance and bring in experienced pro's from the southern hemisphere to help the youngsters develop their full potential.The current set-up is simply the SRU control freaks at their worst.
8

AlastairS,

10/07/2008 08:56:49
The 'mickey mouse' magners league has the EDF and Heineken cup champions which I presume must make the GP the 'minnie mouse' league. To promote rugby in Scotland we need both the national and the pro teams to be consistently winning. There are reasons for optimism in the latter case and with sensible selection also for the national side. If they consistently win and therefore crowds significantly increase (and hopefully TV shows some games) then we can think about increasing the number of pro teams.
9

Sidewinder,

10/07/2008 10:13:38
Toast, how can having all your young players beaten week in week out help their development?
10

J.A.,

10/07/2008 13:43:19
Toast
We have too many overpaid foreign journeymen in Scotland, why would it improve our rugby to bring in any more. Or, are you suggesting that we bring in big names which will add to that wage bill rather than reduce it.
A third pro team would absorb more of the talented youngsters , surely this the direction we should be going!
11

Paul in Oz,

Helensburgh 11/07/2008 04:06:50
Third pro team in Aberdeen starting off as a development team (a la Connacht) please!
12

Mobat,

13/07/2008 21:08:19
#10

Cmon JA name names
13

J.A.,

14/07/2008 08:43:06
#12
Watching a fair bit of club rugby you come across plenty of oversees players who have not come over here for the weather or the quality of the rugby. Look at Bigger R F C for an example.
If our pro teams have to bring in "pro's from the southern hemisphere" in place of our own home bred pro's as #7 suggests, we are either going to get like for like or be forced to pay over the odds to persuade good quality to come and play in Scotland.
14

Mobat,

14/07/2008 11:59:08
#13 well name names in the Pro sides then, are we talking about the likes of Gissing, meyer and Dave Hewitt??
or Stortoni, Parks and Mustchin or do the latter 2 not count??

15

J.A.,

14/07/2008 14:53:16
#14 Sorry, I can’t pick names from the pro teams. I don’t have the time to watch pro rugby in Scotland and don’t have a pro team in my area.
What I said was “We have too many overpaid foreign journeymen in Scotland. Why would it improve our rugby to bring in any more?”
16

Mobat,

14/07/2008 17:36:16
#14 cheers & thats fair enough. I know of the issue in "clubs" but not in too much details. All I would say is of the current crop of players any that are turning out for Edinburgh are earning their wages

 

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