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Karzai hits out at US amid claims of civilian deaths



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Published Date: 24 August 2008
AFGHAN President Hamid Karzai yesterday condemned a US-led coalition air strike his government says killed dozens of civilians, most of them women and children.
An Afghan human rights group said that at least 88 people, including 20 women, were killed in a joint operation in the west of the country.

Karzai, lamenting that his efforts to get the US and Nato to prevent civilian casualties had not been succe
ssful, said that the Afghan government would announce "necessary measures" to prevent civilian deaths. He provided no details.

Meanwhile, an Afghan school principal and a police official said Afghan army troops tried to hand out food and clothes to Afghans in Azizabad – the village in the Shindand district of Herat province where the operation took place on Thursday – but villagers started throwing stones at the soldiers, who then fired on the Afghans, wounding up to eight.

US coalition spokeswoman Rumi Nielson-Green said Thursday's operation was led by Afghan National Army commandos, with support from the coalition. Originally the coalition said the battle killed 30 militants, but Nielson-Green said five civilians – two women and three children connected to the militants – were among the dead.

Ahmad Nader Nadery, commissioner of the Afghan Independent Human Rights Commission, said one of the group's researchers visited Azizabad on Friday and found that 88 people had been killed and 25 houses had been damaged, including 15 that were destroyed.

He did not provide a breakdown of how many were civilians or militants.

The interior ministry has said that 76 civilians were killed, including 50 children under the age of 15. Karzai's office said at least 70 civilians died.

But the Afghan ministry of defence said 25 militants and five civilians were killed.

The US coalition said it would investigate the claims of civilian deaths.

"Obviously there are allegations and a disconnect here. The sooner we can get that cleared up and get it official the better off we'll all be," said US coalition spokesman First Lieutenant Nathan Perry. "We had people on the ground."

Ghulam Azrat, director of the middle school in Azizabad, said he collected 60 bodies on Friday morning after the bombing.

"We put the bodies in the main mosque," he said, pausing to collect himself in between tears. "Most of these dead bodies were children and women. It took all morning to collect them."

Azrat said villagers threw stones at Afghan soldiers who tried to give food and clothes to the villagers yesterday. He said the soldiers fired into the crowd and wounded eight people, including one child critically.

"The people were very angry," he said. "They told the soldiers, 'We don't need your food, we don't need your clothes. We want our children, we want our relatives. Can you give it to us? You cannot, so go away.'"

A spokesman for Afghan police in western Afghanistan, Rauf Ahmadi, confirmed that the demonstration took place, but said the soldiers fired into the air. He said two Afghans were wounded by the gunfire.

The differing death tolls for Thursday's airstrikes were impossible to verify because of the remote and dangerous location of the battle site.

Complicating the matter, Afghan officials have been accused of exaggerating civilian death claims for political payback, to qualify for more compensation money from the US or because of pressure from the Taliban.

The operation was launched after an intelligence report that a Taliban commander, Mullah Siddiq, was inside a compound presiding over a meeting of militants, Azimi said. Siddiq was one of those killed during the raid, Azimi said.

More than 3,400 people – mostly militants – have been killed in insurgency-related violence this year, according to figures from Western and Afghan officials.





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  • Last Updated: 24 August 2008 12:59 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: Afghanistan
 
1

Postmark-55,

China, 24/08/2008 16:15:41
After you pull the pin in Afghanistan and Iraq, then, and only then can you bitch at and about Russia being in Georgia, they are seeing how you are doing things and saying, hey, we can do that too.
2

Gere,

Scotland 24/08/2008 17:06:37
Naturally, America will claim that even the dead two year old children were combatants.

Their tiny, broken dead bodies were even found next to loaded AK 47 rifles, they simply had to have been associated with the Taliban!!!!

Why, one dead two year old looks as if he could have been a commander!

America continues to sow Dragon's Teeth, one day they will reap the harvest then they will cry out,

"why is our innocent civilian population being targeted"

They will not mention the broken, dead bodies of the unarmed women and children in Afganistan and Iraq!
3

Dragonhead,

Dalian,China 25/08/2008 01:36:10
... all Al Qaeda and it's many off-shoot 'sleepers' in UK have to do, to repay the compliments,is to plan and wait for London 2012.
In this incident, there have as usual been conflicting accounts of what happened.Now normally it would be the usual of,Coalition Forces (not American, but Afghani commandoes,oh!blind ones) saying one thing and Afghanis saying something else.In this case however,the conflicting versions from 'OFFICIAL'Afghan sources conflicts wildly with each other.
In this case the usual scapegoats are (the great satan) America.Penny to a pinch of Afghan goat sh*t if there was a faux-pas, it was caused by Afghan Commandoes calling down fire on the wrong target.Or perhaps it was the right target!A target identified by Afghans who have their own agenda (political pay back,or for more compensation).
So far the more credible evidence has been produced by the coalition forces.In the case of an unsupported airstrike it is often difficult to be sure.In this case troops on the ground identified and catalogued those killed accurately.
Remember muslim extremist terrorists have no conscience in using children as suicide bombers.Why would they not use 'fictitious' children as a weapon?
5 civilians becomes 78, 50 of them children! Notice 5 civilians killed, 2 women and 3 children connected to the militants.Chinese whispers are more potent in Afghanistan than suicide bombers.The jury is still very much out on this one.
4

Let's have the truth,

Queensland 25/08/2008 11:51:02
The US track record on "Accidental" civilian deaths is abysmal.

The US track record on "Deliberate" civilian deaths is even more abysmal.

I seem to remember someone calleed Calley who was wrapped on the knuckles for the massacre at Mai Lai.
5

Let's have the truth,

Queensland 25/08/2008 12:09:28
"A spokesman for Afghan police in western Afghanistan, Rauf Ahmadi, confirmed that the demonstration took place, but said the soldiers fired into the air. He said two Afghans were wounded by the gunfire".

Were the two wounded Afghans floating in the air at the time?
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Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 27/08/2008 04:29:44
Gere is correct I am very sad to say.

here is a story. last Thursday night a US air attack killed 90 civilians according to United Nations and 60 of the dead were children.

http://www.the-peoples-forum.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=3871

Remember, the US gave foreign aid to the Taleban government up until August of 2001. The invasion of Afghanistan was planned prior to the September 11 events. Anyone who thinks that Afghanistan the nation should be punished for the September 11 events is a fool. We don't even have evidence as to who did the September 11 events. We do know that the FBI said that there is no evidence against Osama Bin Laden for that crime. The war against Afghanistan is prosecuted on the belief that the government of Afghanistan (that the US gave money to) sheltered Osama Bin Laden.

there is no justification whatsoever for this war.

Gere is correct. It will come back at the US. The people of America are fools not to know this and to let their government do this.

Those 90 civilians did not attack America. Neither did the Taleban. Neither did Afghanistan.


 

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