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Published Date: 08 November 2006
THREE men have been found guilty and jailed for life for the racially aggravated murder of Glasgow teenager Kriss Donald.
Imran Shahid, 29, was ordered to spend at least 25 years behind bars; his brother Zeeshan Shahid, 28, must serve at least 23 years; and 27-year-old Mohammed Faisal Mushtaq will spend 22 years behind bars for the abduction, assault and brutal killing
on March 15 2004.

After a 27-day trial, the jury of nine women and six men deliberated for eight hours before deciding unanimously on the fate of the accused.

Kriss Donald's mother, Angela, shouted "you bastards" at the three men as the jury delivered its verdict.

In March 2004, Donald, 15, was abducted, stabbed repeatedly and then set on fire, possibly while still alive.

The Glasgow teen was snatched from a street in Pollockshields, Glasgow, then taken on 200-mile round trip before his abductors murdered him. A cyclist found the body on the secluded Clyde walkway the morning after Donald had been kidnapped.

Dr Marjorie Black told the High Court that Donald had been stabbed 13 times, probably while restrained, as he only had one defensive wound and set on fire so that burns covered 70 per cent of his body.

The body was covered in mud, leading the pathologist to conclude that he may have rolled around in an attempt to extinguish the flames and was therefore alive when set alight. Both the stab wounds and the burns were so severe that either could have led to his death.

The Shahid brothers and Mushtaq all fled to Pakistan after the murder and although warrants were issued for their arrest it was more than a year before they were returned to Scotland to face trial.

Daanish Zahid, 22, was sentenced to life imprisonment and ordered to serve a minimum of 17 years for the murder of Donald at a previous trial, while Zahid Mohammed was sentenced to five years for giving police a false statement and after pleading guilty to the abduction only.

The murder of Donald aroused fears that racial tensions in Glasgow's multi-cultural southside would erupt onto the streets when it was revealed that the men accused of his crime were Asian. The British National Party moved to campaign in the area with BNP leader Nick Griffiths accusing the police of not doing enough to clamp down on Asian gangs in the area.

However, Donald's mother Angela at the time appealed to the community for restraint.

"It doesn't matter to my family what colour these men are. Kriss is gone because of gangs, not just in Pollockshields but in every area of our communities," she said.



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  • Last Updated: 08 November 2006 5:59 PM
  • Source: scotsman.com
  • Location: Scotland
 
1

Billy,

Germany 08/11/2006 13:59:40

Let's hope we see an appropriate sentence, ie LIFE
for these savage racist animals,however I fear the sentence will be puny to avoid "Community Tensions" .

2

john123,

glasgow 08/11/2006 14:02:26

How many were involved in this murder?

3

Peter M.,

08/11/2006 14:12:53

Every time I read of the nature of the Kriss's murder (stabbing, burning) it makes me sick. The poor guy must have had a horrible horrible end. The sentance better reflect the severity of the crime.

4

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08/11/2006 14:48:25
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Houssine,

Nanterre 08/11/2006 14:49:07

About famous Scottish gangs, you can read more about this subject in forum of www.scotland.com.

6

Zoosh,

Edinburgh 08/11/2006 15:04:31

Justice has been served, let's never forget Chris and may his death be a lesson to the "Gangs" of our national cities that this type of mindless violence will not be tolerated. "Rest in peace, wee man"

7

Zoosh,

Edinburgh 08/11/2006 15:06:32

Justice has been done. Let this be a lesson to the "gangs" of our national cities that mindless violence will not be tolerated. Let us never forget Kriss Donald, "Rest in Peace, wee man"

8

Houssine,

Nanterre 08/11/2006 15:13:44

I don't understand why my comment was removed,comment numbers 6.I read in that comment about the famous Scotich gangs ,you can read about them the lot of comment in forum of www.scotland.com.I don't see why this comment need to be will removed.I don't understand????

9

Xena - Warrior Princess,

08/11/2006 15:23:06

What was done to Kriss doesn't bear thinking about. They deserve these sentences - they were Men for god's sake and they picked on a wee laddie. I really hope Kriss's mum finds some peace as Number 5 says it really is every parent's nightmare.

10

Yellow Rose,

Houston 08/11/2006 15:24:25

Too bad they don't have the death penalty in Scotland...

11

Houssine,

Nanterre 08/11/2006 15:39:41

If you go in the forum of this site
www.scotland.com you can read more about Scottich famous street gangs in the history section of this forum you can read my writting about the origin of the Scottich and extraordinally story from the meadl east at the Old Gread Britain of king Arthur.

12

Thomas N,

Frankfurt, Germany 08/11/2006 15:40:50

#10

You're quite right there, this scum should receive fast and summary justice.

13

Archie,

08/11/2006 15:50:11

Billy in germany - You obviously dont live in the community involved, i do. Everyone is shocked and disgusted by the actions of these racist cowards who have prayed on the whole community for too long. The only sentence that would create "community tensions" would be a leniant one as EVERYONE wants these cowards locked up for a long, long time.

Poor Kriss, Rest In Peace.

14

karenw,

UK 08/11/2006 16:04:24

This was one of the most sadistic and barbaric murders to have occurred in Britain. It was also the most sadistic race murder, with an unprecedented and evil premeditation.

The press coverage nationally has been miminal. If a group of whites had planned an attack like this and executed it with such ruthless precision, the media would have been all over it for months. It seems that the murder of whites is less important than the murder of third world immigrants.

The callousness and barbarity of this attack, just like the filmed beheadings perpetrated by Iraqis, show that the Moslem world enjoys and indulges in a degree of violence more savage than anything seen in Europe before.

15

Sharyne,

Glasgow 08/11/2006 16:07:07

Words can not express the heartfelt sympathy I feel for Kriss family and friends. The way he died is worse than anything I could ever imagine.
Kriss will never be forgotten.
God bless.

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christopher,

08/11/2006 16:14:22

what a sin, a crying shame.......

but here wait a minute, some MSP goes to cowdenbeath and is attacked.... all of a sudden they are talking about curfews and the likes.

so we are talking about a young mans life and the feelings of an MSP.....

why are these measures not being taken in this area to try and stop anything like this happening again. it would seem to me, and this is not my stance on the matter, that poor kriss was not important enough, however if you are a HOLLYWOOD MSP and i mean HOLLYWOOD as there is more drama comes out of there than anywhere else, then they throw police resourse at it. maybe it is about time our other msp's experienced this for themselves rather than rely on 'reports'. i think we should lobby our msp's and ask them to spend time in these areas to get to grips with it then do something about it.

then we will see how many are really there for the community and those that are there to pay it lip service and pick up an inflated wage and expences.

god bless you son!

17

Bite-Back,

08/11/2006 16:34:52

I would like to see a public enquirey into this, I doubt we will get one, what we have had is a near media blackout of coverage of this case. As usual these people had all been charged with various crimes in the past ,all three serving prison sentences for crimes of violence! more than once I believe.

18

john/ Canada,

08/11/2006 16:47:05

Houssine.. Scotich? Maybe why your comment was removed.

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davie,

glasgow 08/11/2006 16:47:25

if ever there was an example of concerted media control, for the purposesof deceiving the public through the use of censorship - then this is it. i invite readers to ponder the massive and sustained national coverage of the anthony walker and stephen lawrence cases - with that afforded the kriss donald trial; clearly in the eyes of the media manipulaters, if you are a white victim of a sick racist crime then you simply an unacceptable embarrassment to their much promoted cause of multiculturalism. the bbc started reporting the trial on day 19 and sky started on monday

20

Norman,

08/11/2006 16:54:50

What has been interesting in this case is that the photograph used to illustrate media reports has been of the victim. The images of the accused have hardly been used, it took until last night until I saw footage of them. This struck me as being slightly strange, considering it wasn't as if they were children or anything.

I wouldn't agree with Bite-Back that there had been a media black out - it's been on the news every day!

21

keir,

08/11/2006 16:56:00

17. Davie

I am pretty sure that the Kriss Donald case has been, since day one, reporting Scotland (IE the GBC's) biggest story...

22

Gemma,

Edinburgh 08/11/2006 17:03:42

Let's just hope they won't get out on an appeal after half their sentance - this seems to be the norm for every other murder trial these days!

23

Billbris,

Ayrshire 08/11/2006 17:03:54

The horrific nature of this murder wouldn't seem out of place in a story filed from Baghdad or Bogota.
From the beginning there has been a marked difference of the coverage of this story here in Scotland (good), and in the UK as a whole (almost non-existant). BBC viewers (like myself) saw hardly a mention of it in the national news, and had to wait until the Scottish regional segment, to be kept informed. The trial and sentencing of the first two men involved in this crime was never mentioned in the national news.
This has played into the hands of those on the far right, such as the BNP, who have been able to accuse the national media of political correctness, comparing the coverage of this murder to those where the colours were reversed.
Today it seems that the BBC, and hopefully the rest of the national media, have had a change of heart, and are giving this story the coverage it deserves.
Small comfort to Kriss's family, to whom my heart goes out, but it will deprive the BNP and their ilk of the ammunition with which, so far, they have been supplied.

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Gemma,

Edinburgh 08/11/2006 17:04:31

Let's just hope they won't get out on an appeal after half their sentance - this seems to be the norm for every other murder trial these days!

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Ex-Pat Dundonian,

Aberdeen 08/11/2006 17:15:20

I have heard numerous reports of lesser but still violent racist attacks against whites through the UK - and for they majority they are hushed up.

Even for sugegsting that they are racist crimes can bring accusations that you are a racist yourself.

Def. one rule for them and one rule for the rest exists.

On the note of those 3 convicted - I sincerley hope that they are violently attacked in jail.

An eye for an eye.

26

Archie,

08/11/2006 17:20:09

How sad that some people cant even wait a few hours before using this case to score their political points.

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davie,

glasgow 08/11/2006 17:25:18

keir19 keir this is a story for all of the uk not just scotland yes it is todays biggest story 6 weeks to late

28

Mary,

Edinburgh 08/11/2006 17:29:54

I hope all three are sleeping one night int heir cells - are woken - stabbed - and then set alight.

I know what I am saying and I have no regrets about what I am saying.

They do not deserve to be alive.

Any eye for an eye.

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Houssine,

Nanterre 08/11/2006 17:30:01

Hello John from Canada,how are you John?My english is very bad and i'm sorry for that.I don't understand why the numbers 6 was removed? I'm surprised.It's a technical problem,it's possibl.
John,i'm ethnologyst and linguist,we live in the societies in mutation of if you prefer in evolution (a darwin vision of the world),i believ the man is more violent of the woman,for this reason i propose a solution for the diminution of violence in our societies,we elect president women in our countries,Hillary Clinton in U.S.A, Segolen Royal in France...i believ it's a solution for more peace ful societies.In general the man is more religious then women and i have an other theoty about the Celtics civilisation and Germanic civilisation.I believ the Scottich need an independance for many reason ,one of them i believ the Celtic poepls is more peaceful then Germanic descends (I think propably G.Bush and T.Blair is Germanic ascendance).

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Miss H,

08/11/2006 17:33:58

The story has been very well covered in Scotland. I really don't think there has been any attempt at a 'cover up' - not quite sure what those comments are about.

Perhaps it is the race angle that makes people a little nervous, as these were Asian neds picking on a white boy not the other way around. But neds are neds aren't they?

31

Alistair Stewart,

DUNDEE 08/11/2006 17:34:47

HANG THEM - ANYTHING LESS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE

32

Natasha,

Glasgow 08/11/2006 17:37:09

god rest ye kriss wee man!!! lets hope there's a clampdown on these sort of people before there's another tragedy i live in the south side and it is rife!!!

i wonder what would have happened if it was the other way round i doubt there would be as much tiptoeing around the situation.

33

keit011,

edinburgh 08/11/2006 17:44:08

the punishment never quite seems to fit the crime in any case .longer and harder sentences are needed /will these guys be deported or are they british born

34

Alistair Stewart,

DUNDEE 08/11/2006 17:45:10

I am not surprised if restrictions are in place - seems really unfair that their one set of rules for one colour and one for another.

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Alistair Stewart,

DUNDEE 08/11/2006 17:46:01

Is this new that - all stories are mdoerated now - they have not been before today.

Or is it just THIS story.

if it is just this story then it speaks volumes about the whole affair.

36

Russell,

08/11/2006 17:52:45

I hope they find a home in the general prison population, then the punishment may fit the crime . These kind of people are usually under special protection at great cost to save their lives let justice take its course

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08/11/2006 17:53:24
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08/11/2006 17:54:15
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KH,

Ayrshire 08/11/2006 17:54:50

I am so glad that it's over for poor Kriss' family. It was disgusting what those men did, and I hope they never get parole. Kriss was only 15 years old and every time I think of what those men done, it sickens me. Scotland always comes across as such a friendly nation and I am extremely proud to be scottish.

I just wonder how this would have been treated if it were white men kidnapping an asian boy???

Rest in piece Kriss, I hope his mum and family can now move on.

40

Russell,

08/11/2006 17:58:54

I hope they r released into the general prison population and not protected in isolation

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KS,

Glasgow. 08/11/2006 18:26:09

As a Muslim let me tell you that these men must never be confused with being Muslims just because they are 'Asian'. A Muslim would never commit such an inhuman act on anyone of any race or colour. The justice they will face before Allah will make their prison sentences seem like a holiday camp. In my view they should be kept in prison for all their natural life. They took a life and so they forfeit their own. As for Kriss he is to be honoured.

42

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08/11/2006 18:27:29
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karenw,

08/11/2006 18:31:08

KS#39 what about the Moslems who have filmed their beheadings of westerners and Christians in Iraq and the appalling decapitation of an Assyrian Chrsitian aged just 14 last week????

The latter boy, just 1 year younger than Kriss, was at work manning a generator when he was suddenly and brutally beheaded just because he was a Christian.If this is not Islamic violence what is it?

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Miss H,

08/11/2006 18:37:14

It is pretty sickening the number of people trying to make political capital out of this for whatever purpose.

Let's remember that Scotland is officially the most violent country in the developed world.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4257966.stm

I suggest that before we all start blaming religion or race for this murder we reflect on that fact. If there is a problem of violence in our communities - and God knows there is and this is a particularly horrific example of it - it is a problem for all of us, not just some of us.

45

JG,

Fife 08/11/2006 18:41:29

#36 Cahirman Gordon
Could it be that the reaction of some of the posters on this board today is the reason the Police played things down? (if indeed they did!)

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KH,

08/11/2006 18:42:38

These men had been is prison before for assault, if the justice system in this country was better, maybe this wouldn't have happened to Kriss. There should be harsher punishment for people who break the law. Kilmarnock Bowhouse prison is like a holiday camp, I knew someone who worked there and the prisoners get their own TV's, setanta sports, pool tables etc. How can people learn their lesson with priviledges like this. It's shocking. I only hope the men that done this get treated the way mindless thugs should. They should not be in a protected wing either, see how they feel being intimidated the way Kriss was.

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08/11/2006 18:44:40
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KH,

08/11/2006 18:47:49

it has always been Allan, what are you talking about?

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KH,

08/11/2006 18:49:29

it has always been Allan, what are you talking about?

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08/11/2006 18:54:24
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Jayne,

Houston,Texas 08/11/2006 18:59:20

I agree with Yellow rose! Too bad there is not a Death penalty in Scotland!! Sympathy to "Kriss's"Ma and family!

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Russell,

08/11/2006 19:26:22

However, the president of the Association of Chief Police Officers in Scotland (Acpos), Peter Wilson, said that the "general picture" of Scotland around the world was "not one of a violent country".


While violent crime has decreased recently in Scotland, people are still the victims of violence, especially knife crime
A Scottish Executive spokesman

He said: "I would question the compatibility of figures and the methods used in this particular survey because it must be near impossible to compare assault figures from one country to the next based on phone calls.

"We have been doing extensive research into violent crime in Scotland for some years now and these have shown that in the vast majority of cases, victims of violent crime are known to each other."

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Russell,

08/11/2006 19:27:35

miss h read the article properly

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08/11/2006 19:37:10
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davie,

08/11/2006 19:37:37

karen w well said

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08/11/2006 19:38:47
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davie,

08/11/2006 19:48:19

kid dynamite you got it mate they dont no the meaning of gansta they will get what they deserve from white man gansta
rest in peace kid

58

Bite-Back,

08/11/2006 19:49:26

Miss H , what exactly are you on about this time?
The fact is that once again you and your PC correct friends have messed up , The Strathclyde police were pro-actively investigating the Asian gangs in Glasgow, but guess what happened Miss H?

"Speaking yesterday, a police source said the operation, launched by Strathclyde's G Division, which covers Pollokshields, had been halted by senior officers. He said: "Gang culture among Asians has been causing the police concern for some time, and we did have a dedicated team looking at it, but six months ago a number of senior officers got cold feet, claiming it didn't look good to be solely investigating Asian gangs.

"The decision wasn't welcomed in the station."

And from another report in the Scotsman

"AN internal police report which warned of a rising tide of crime in Pollokshields' Asian community was shelved, by senior officers, it emerged yesterday.

The detailed report named 220 people in the area who could pose a threat to the community.

One of the names on the list was Imran Shahid.

But the 1998 dossier was sidelined by senior officers who feared being accused of racism.

The report, from an intelligence gathering exercise codenamed Operation Barber, highlighted a hard core of Asians who had become 'almost lawless' and warned the area was a powderkeg of tension.

It said: 'Unfortunately, the younger Asians have a high regard for this group and appear to be trying to emulate them.'

And it concluded: 'The crime problem within the Asian community will therefore spiral unless a pro-active criminal intelligence-based stance aimed at curbing criminal activity is adopted.'

But last night a source close to the report said such a stance was never adopted.

He added: 'It was made clear to us there was a danger of the force being accused of racism if it acted on the information contained in the investigation. Some felt that was

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Alistair Stewart,

DUNDEE 08/11/2006 19:55:30

Are we still be moderated?

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Alistair Stewart,

DUNDEE 08/11/2006 19:55:41

Aparently not :-)

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KS,

Glasgow. 08/11/2006 19:57:04

Sad to see some of the posters on this board share the same ignorant racist brainless mentality as those just locked up. Pointless posting here...so...later.

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Alistair Stewart,

DUNDEE 08/11/2006 19:58:32

well here is what I hope happens to them

1. The are in the general prison population
2. One by one they are picked off
3. They are given the same sadistic treatment
4. The die in fear

It's what they did to poor Kriss. Why should they live.

And before the howls of 'not civilised' etc etc etc - I really could not give a hoot about 'their' rights.

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KS,

Glasgow. 08/11/2006 20:07:44

...and would you apply the same treatment to those that murdered Stephen Lawrence and remain at large?

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Bite-Back,

08/11/2006 20:09:23

Miss H, this is just my opinion, but I think it is you and your sort of PC friends who have blood on your hands , you consistantly refuse to accept that! it's as if you have all been hardwired to act in the same way, grow up for all our sakes , you keep trying to defend the indefensible , now remember Miss H this line from the above report:

"One of the names on the list was Imran Shahid."

Operation Barber Miss H , some great work by the Police , shelved because of the same kind of Guff that is pervading Scotland at the present time.

I think a Public enquiry is needed to establish just how damaging this Political Correctness has gone, so why dont you give us your answer Miss H , you say there was no blackout by the media , I say there was, probably by someone from the same mold as you, I just want my country back to the way it was, we could talk, we could express our opinions, we could even fight crime!!

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Alistair Stewart,

DUNDEE 08/11/2006 20:10:42

Oh yes - give them what they gave Stephen Lawrence

All of them the one's that killed poor lil Damiola etc

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Bite-Back,

08/11/2006 20:17:34

I have no inclination towards political correctness Miss H , you are everything thats wrong with this country.

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British Patriot,

Edinburgh 08/11/2006 20:18:28

So-called 'British muslims' murdering innocent British schoolchildren.

I hope and pray that, one by one, the creatures who commited this terrible crime are found in their cells, having strung themselves up and taken their own miserable lives. I hope and pray that, until they are found in such a state, that the general prison population make their very existence a hell on earth.

So-called 'British muslims' beheading innocent British citizens.

So-called 'British muslims' blowing up innocent British people.

So-called 'British muslims' destroying all that we hold dear in our country, all that our ancestors have worked, fought, and in many instances, died for.

So-called 'British muslims' fighting against British forces and our allies.

No more!!! Enough is enough!!

We must take our country back before it really is too late.

We can make a start by initiating a mass boycott of all Asian owned businesses. It's a peaceful protest against those who seek to destroy us, against those who have proclaimed that they aim to turn our nation into the 'Islamic Republic Of The Former Great Britain'

Numerous polls have been conducted in which the vast majority of said 'British muslims' have openly applauded 9/11, have openly condoned the barbaric actions taken by their 'muslim brothers' on 7/7.

The majority of 'British muslims' have declared that they feel no allegiance to the country which feeds, clothes, houses, attempts to educate, bends over backwards to appease them etc etc.

Lets send them back to their countries of ethnic origin, irrespective of whether they were born in this country or not. They are NOT British.They never will be. Their only allegiance is to Islam.

Islam IS a wicked religion. Two British patriots are currently on trial for stating that fact.

NO MORE.

'BRITAIN FOR THE BRITISH'

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Alistair Stewart,

DUNDEE 08/11/2006 20:19:21

Roll-up Roll-up this way for the PC brigade to condemn killing of convicted murderers!!

Never mind the expense of locking up scum, never mind they have destroyed multiple lives, never mind they are unrepentant!!

Walk right this way to campaign for early release, how they need rehabilitation, pay their 'debts' to society etc etc

Spend millions on their upkeep and probably protection in jail.

OR

You could miss the 'freak show' completely, leave the PC clowns and choose sanity.

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davie,

08/11/2006 20:21:30

jeff top class

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Alistair Stewart,

DUNDEE 08/11/2006 20:27:53

Thank you - I am here everynight this week :-)

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davie,

08/11/2006 20:32:55

good man

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Alistair Stewart,

DUNDEE 08/11/2006 20:33:33

Intersting the BBC are avoiding it is a topic on 'Have Your Say' ... I wonder why hmmmmmmm????

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davie,

08/11/2006 20:35:31

the bbc are a joke they are scared to offend muslims simple as that

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Dwyer,

Canada 08/11/2006 20:40:33

If you ask me criminals should be treated in a manner in which they treated the victims. In this case, the 3 so called "gangsters" should be driven around for a bit...than stabbed mulitple times than burnt alive by the victims family...now thats Justice!!
In todays day and age justice is served by locking criminals up for being bad (as you would a child misbehaving) and this is the kicker THEY HAVE NO BILLS TO PAY!! AWW SUCH A HARD LIFE =(...yea right! If the justice system isnt changed we are all screwed! And why is it criminals are always protected? No matter where ya go this is always the case! Same old Same old......

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British Patriot,

Edinburgh 08/11/2006 20:41:11

So-called 'British muslims' murdering innocent British schoolchildren.

I hope and pray that, one by one, the creatures who commited this terrible crime are found in their cells, having strung themselves up and taken their own miserable lives. I hope and pray that, until they are found in such a state, that the general prison population make their very existence a hell on earth.

So-called 'British muslims' beheading innocent British citizens.

So-called 'British muslims' blowing up innocent British people.

So-called 'British muslims' destroying all that we hold dear in our country, all that our ancestors have worked, fought, and in many instances, died for.

So-called 'British muslims' fighting against British forces and our allies.

No more!!! Enough is enough!!

We must take our country back before it really is too late.

We can make a start by initiating a mass boycott of all Asian owned businesses. It's a peaceful protest against those who seek to destroy us, against those who have proclaimed that they aim to turn our nation into the 'Islamic Republic Of The Former Great Britain'

Numerous polls have been conducted in which the vast majority of said 'British muslims' have openly applauded 9/11, have openly condoned the barbaric actions taken by their 'muslim brothers' on 7/7.

The majority of 'British muslims' have declared that they feel no allegiance to the country which feeds, clothes, houses, attempts to educate, bends over backwards to appease them etc etc.

Lets send them back to their countries of ethnic origin, irrespective of whether they were born in this country or not. They are NOT British.They never will be. Their only allegiance is to Islam.

Islam IS a wicked religion. Two British patriots are currently on trial for stating that fact.

NO MORE.

'BRITAIN FOR THE BRITISH'

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Angela,

Lochgelly, Fife 08/11/2006 20:41:52

Apparently, the main reason that Kris was murdered was because Imran Shahid could not take the humiliation that he received when he was out the night before the abduction of Kris as some white males physically attacked him. Imran felt that he had an image to protect and a message to send out that he would be humiliated that way and he wanted his revenge. He was hell bent on getting his revenge and he purely intended to abduct any white person that he could get. It just happens that it was Kris and he was obviously in the wrong place at the wrong time.

At the end of the day, Kris was only 15 years old and he did not deserve to die in that way. It fills me with such sadness when you wonder what he must have felt and how scared he was. I also felt that way with the murder of Jamie Bulger, I remember reading newspaper articles about Jamie's murder, and I could not read anymore as I was crying from what he endured.

They say that the good die young and it must be true.

1993 - Jamie Bulger
2002 - Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman
2004 - Kris Donald
2005 - Anthony Walker

All the above people deserve to rest in peace with the lord given the circumstances in the way they left this earth, what they never had in the last moments of their life; they should receive in the afterlife.

Bless their hearts

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Alistair Stewart,

DUNDEE 08/11/2006 20:55:20

Angela - I agree with all you say above and I am sure you agree that anyone being attacked for a multitude of reasons

Race - Religion - Sexuality is simply not on ..

but ratching it up several levels to the extreme Imran Shahid did is way beyond a random attack.

They did not show much remorse according to the judge ...

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08/11/2006 21:01:56
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davie,

08/11/2006 21:03:20

the scum were giggling when they left the court one of them kicked a man from the press hang them

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British Patriot,

Edinburgh 08/11/2006 21:14:10

Political correctness obviously prevails on this forum. I have submitted a perfectly valid contribution to the thread which has NOT been posted.

Obviously the 'moderator' is applying his or her political preferences in policing submissions.

Another nail in the coffin for free speech in Blair's Britain.

Oh, and by the way, let's all hope and pray that the perpetrators who committed this most heinous crime are subjected to whatever, if any, retaliatory measures are possible whilst they serve there sentences.

Is that a moderate enough submission for you 'moderator'?

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Alistair Stewart,

DUNDEE 08/11/2006 21:14:25

Dave - where was that reported?

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O.C,

Norway 08/11/2006 21:15:24

"He was then castrated and his eyes were gouged out. Finally, he was doused in petrol, set on fire and allowed to burn to death."
.. it is cases like this that draws the youth towards far-right movements..

what human beings are capable of doing this?

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davie,

08/11/2006 21:15:59

news bbc

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it has always been allan,

08/11/2006 21:22:35

My name has been allan since I was born, my mother came from Perth, now I am told to take another name by your moderator, and I am telling him the name is the same as it always has been, and always will be, so get stuffed.

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08/11/2006 21:26:45
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Alistair Stewart,

DUNDEE 08/11/2006 21:37:17

Just seen the STV news and those 3 lowlife sub-humans smiling and jeering as they were led into the van.

I really hope they are tortured before they die.

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Euan,

Edinburgh 08/11/2006 21:47:51

They will get what's coming to them in jail, they won't be smiling tonight I can tell you.

I only hope the Kriss' Mother, family and friends can now start re-building their lives knowing these barbarians are now behind bars.

I just hope the sentences that have been issued are seen out in full and that some ridiculous appeal process doesn't reduce them.

Rot, you MURDERING SCUM.

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08/11/2006 21:52:16
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08/11/2006 21:52:46
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08/11/2006 21:53:37
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davie,

08/11/2006 21:55:09

who

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davie,

08/11/2006 21:55:34

who justyne

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British Patriot,

Edinburgh 08/11/2006 22:01:40

Your refusal to post my 2 submissions this evening shows only that there exists some sort of 'whitelist' within your organisation.

In today's politically correct Britain is it still ok to use the term 'blacklist'?

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08/11/2006 22:03:50
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08/11/2006 22:05:15
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davie,

08/11/2006 22:06:35

yes o.c but these people like to die they are marters sad

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08/11/2006 22:12:14
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08/11/2006 22:16:36
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Dwyer,

Canada 08/11/2006 22:17:49

My sincerest condolences to Kriss's family..xoxo

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davie,

glasgow 08/11/2006 22:22:07

i work in glasgow were he lived and they are scared to say anythin to the muslimsthe police they get away with murder

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davie,

glasgow 08/11/2006 22:26:21

hey when these scum bags went back to pakistan they told the police and goverment when they tried to bring them back to glasgow that kris was raping muslim girls in glasgow i wathched a tv programe

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walter,

08/11/2006 22:38:29

The truth is the coverage of this case was not reported outside Scotland.
I recall a conversation at work when the news was covering the funeral of Anthony Walker, I mentioned this case and I was basically accused of lying as if such a thing had happened then it would have been all over the news.
Even now there are people in England posting on newspaper comment pages wondering why they have not heard of this case before.

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davie,

glasgow 08/11/2006 22:39:51

human rights mate uk is good for all these people 7 menfrom afganistan hijacked a plane it came to uk they got 3-4 years got out and claimed asylum what a joke now because of human rights we cant send them home because they are in fear of there lives they get free house free health care money off state every week

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davie,

glasgow 08/11/2006 22:43:04

they dont like offending muslims the uk is a joke when they were caught the police found lots of credit card

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Nita,

08/11/2006 23:46:44

Why don't the people themselves take to the streets and pelt out justice to the Muslim gangs?

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dugi,

dubai 08/11/2006 23:54:10

Can some person[preferably an in the know lawyer , explain why -

in scotland people get LIFE in prison sentences ,at
an age below say 30 years and this is a 25 year sentence .
Does LIFE not mean the rest of your life ? and why do people get out of jail early anyway .Because they do what they are told to do in the prison .

Not start a fire or smash the place up .
Oh .Thank you so much -youve been good this year so Ill take 6 months off the sentence .Tell your mates thats the way it works .

Meanwhile do you need a flat screen to free up more space .Sorry about the sqaulid stae , you dont deserve it so just appeal to human rights down the road .They sure will up the star rating .

Not cynical -but like so many folk who live outwith your crazy country now ,Im still amazed by the British law .

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Edward,

09/11/2006 02:17:08

any ideas which prison these scum have been sent to?

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uuk20,

china 09/11/2006 02:31:02

i will never understand how the western countries have abandoned DEATH penlty............................

such a shame for the poeple being killed deliberately...

anyway,if some terrorist killed thousands innocent people in the UK,

will he still live comfortablly in his owm isolated room and pray for his anlla?

while the family of the victims suffer long and long...

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Edward,

09/11/2006 02:39:43

#86 Where did you hear/see about what happened to poor Kriss Donald, you mentioned his eyes were gouged?

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Angela,

Lochgelly, Fife 09/11/2006 09:33:42

#71 Jeff

I understand what you said. It was a random attack in the sense that it was random on Kris but not random in the sense that it would have happened to someone else. Imran Shahid intended to get someone so, yes, it was premeditated. I think that he has a history of carrying out premeditated crime from what you hear on the TV.

I also agree that any crime committed against someone because of a different skin colour, religion, or sexuality is not on. I believe that we are all on the way to hell for the way that we respond to each other and with the way things are going, I would seriously not have children as I don't think that it is correct bringing a child up in this world. Some may say that this is stupid but if they say that you should be a responsible adult for your children, I think that responsibility begins with you and if you do not want to bring a child up in an environment that is acting as a responsible adult.

Imran Shahid has committed crime with serious consequences before, he had attacked another male before Kris who he left brain damaged. The thought was that when Imran was hit the night before the abduction of Kris that this was payback for what he done to that person.

I never heard that Kris had his eyes gouged out. What I heard on the report last night was that he was stabbed 13 times and set on fire.

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Angela,

Lochgelly, Fife 09/11/2006 09:49:36

Forgot to add this to my last comment.

I can believe that those three murderers showed no remorse for what they done as I seen them on television after their sentences were issued. I wonder what Imran's brother felt that he had to smile about? I hope that he gets that smile wiped off his face.

We should bring back hanging. You have that hanging over people (no pun intended) and it might make them think about their actions.

Kris's mum was right to shout out to the three of them "You bastards" after sentence was passed as that is what they are. They have been judged once in the court system and they will be judged again but by a far higher power.

I hope those boys have a nice 22, 23 and 25 years in prison. This is the minimum that they must serve and I sincerely hope that they do not get out before that.

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anonymous,

Glasgow 09/11/2006 23:09:29

I knew the brothers around 10 years ago when they were just minnows in their pond known as 'the Shields Boys', a large group of around 30 Pakistani boys (aged approx 15-34) who lived in Pollokshields. These are the same animals who, in their droves, arrived in transit vans at Shawlands Academy to indiscriminately attack white youths using base ball bats. That onslaught was because a white prefect gave a punishment exercise to a Pakistani youth. The issue is bigger than these three animals jailed for the killing of Kriss Donald. That Pakistani gang have been terrorising the south side of Glasgow for too long. They did things to me that I still will not bring myself to discuss. Several of the animals who I had the misfortune of knowing thrived on picking unfair fights and hurting innocents. Because I was fearful I just tried to bury my unwelcomed acquaintance with them instead of informing the police. I must somehow stand up. The people of Pollokshields also need to stand up because I dont believe the story ends with these three animals. These Shields Boys, older now, still exist.

The gang is not asian, it is Pakistani.

The Shields Boys attacked other Pakistani groups in Glasgow, not just white people, but they always had a gripe with residents of McCulloch Street. That was common knowlegde.

There is a connection between Angela Baillie and Imran Shahid is there not?

To Kriss’ mother: I have so much respect for the way you managed yourself throughout the trial. God bless you. I pray these animals feel the emotions I want them to feel. I am sorry when I suffered I was silent (even though it was not these individuals who hurt me), I was a coward.

To Kriss’ friend: You could not have stopped what happened that day but you tried. Kriss knows. Stop. Dont allow them to ruin your life. Use what you feel to do something positive. Please.

Kriss will always be in our hearts. x

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anonymous,

Glasgow 09/11/2006 23:20:26

Euan from Edinburgh - re: message 80, I concur.

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Doc,

Glasgow 10/11/2006 10:23:18

I have a heavy heart & have cried many tears for Kriss, who I never even knew. What that poor boy went through is sickening. Life in prison is too good for those barbaric animals!
I pray his mother & family find away to find peace with this hell.

Rest in preace Kriss you are forever in my prayers
xx

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Dizzymare66,

10/11/2006 12:02:24

All our children live in this society white racial hatred has been swept under the carpet. At 15 years old Kriss was not fully developed how could a boy that age combat his attackers my point being they are cowards. Why were these ppl here??? Why are our xmas lights called winter lights incase of offending these ppl. They would not make such concessions for us in their country. I am appalled at this attack and it has been on my mind since the report.

I admire krisses mother and family for their dignity and strength in this matter and i hope with all my heart they find a way through this. My thoughts are with them. The remorsless attitude oif the attackers must be hard to deal with and the brutality kirss suffered is incomprehencable. I genuinely hope they can rebuild their lives in a way that finds them some comfort in this life. I feel angry and sickened by what these ppl did to Kriss

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davie,

10/11/2006 17:51:48

edward they are in barlinne soon to shots

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Hovis,

bangkok 13/11/2006 08:16:13

why is there so many posts being removed. in any other story this is not the case. another example of the situation we are living in. if these animals had been white neds on a pakistani guy do youthink there would be so many removed posts??????
im certain there would be plenty people condeming these 'racist animals' 'nazis' etc.because these animals are of pakistani origin we have to treat them with kid gloves so as not to offend, so as not to cause unrest in the community and all the normal s**t that comes with it.

as a youg white male from scotland i wonder how long it will be before i have no right to comment on any issue which may offend women, gays or ethnic minorities. in a country which has been built on free speech and the ability to debate sensitive subjects i find it saddening.

my younger brother is 17 and i still see him as a kid. i hope these animals get everything they deserve inside. however i doubt that will be the case.i bet they are given the special treatment inside to avoid any 'further racial tension'
i dont.

this is not THE reason but part of what is dividing this country.

if we dont address this issue soon, there is going to be an even larger divide than there is already.

for the record i am not a racist or sexist as some people might like to think after the way i have writte this post, but i am angry with the situation at home. i have been living outside scotland for over 1 year and the thought of coming home to this pc madness that we live in is not agood one.

rest in peace kriss donald

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davie,

glasgow 14/11/2006 15:46:39

why dont we just round all of the muslims up put them on a boat and send them home we have stopped calling christmas xmas it is now winterville and we have stopped putting xmas stamps with jesus on them out out uk is going mad with p.c everything we do offends these muslims our health service is full


 

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