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Published Date: 03 July 2009
FIRST-class train travel by Scottish Government ministers trebled last year – but most of the journeys were made by transport minister Stewart Stevenson.
Today opposition MSPs called on other ministers to follow his example.

Details released under freedom of information legislation showed ministers made a total of just 57 first-class rail journeys in 2007-8. In 2008-9 that soared to 172.

However
, Mr Stevenson's rail trips accounted for more than 60 per cent of the total – 37 out of 57 – in 2007-8.

Last year, he made 127 of the 172 trips recorded – almost three-quarters of the total.

The majority appeared to be journeys between the Capital and Linlithgow, where he has his second home, or between Edinburgh or Linlithgow and his constituency in the north-east of Scotland.

Mr Stevenson could have used government limousines for these journeys, but chose to let the train take the strain.

Finance secretary John Swinney is shown as making only one trip in 2007-8 – but it was the most expensive of them all – £323 to travel between Edinburgh and London. In 2008-9, he is recorded making four first-class rail journeys – and again he tops the ticket price table with a £373 Edinburgh-London trip.

First Minister Alex Salmond made no first-class train journeys in 2007-8, but travelled twice by train last year – once from Edinburgh to Inverurie and once from London to Edinburgh.

The bill for ministers' first-class rail tickets rose from around £2,500 in 2007-8 to more than £6,500 in 2008-9. In addition, several ministers used "flexi-pass" discount tickets at unspecified cost to travel between Edinburgh and Glasgow.

Officials said ministers sometimes also travelled standard class, but details were not available.

Lothians Labour MSP George Foulkes said: "I don't mind them going first-class because they need to work on the train and it can sometimes be difficult in standard class.

"But when you think of climate change, ministers ought to be taking a lead, setting an example and going by train as often as possible.

"Stewart Stevenson has shown the way. If he can do it, why can't all the others?

"If elected representatives don't use trains as much as possible, why should we expect other people to do it?"

The code governing ministers' behaviour urges them to be cost conscious about travel. It says: "Ministers should be satisfied that their travel arrangements could be defended in public.

"In using official cars and travelling by rail or air, ministers must always make efficient and cost-effective travel arrangements."

A government spokesman said: "Ministers are entitled to transport to and from their home to discharge their ministerial duties, whether by car or public transport.

"The Scottish Government encourages cost-effective and sustainable travel for business purposes. Ministers have taken a lead by reducing the number of ministerial car journeys undertaken."





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  • Last Updated: 03 July 2009 10:12 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Mallory,

Edinburgh 03/07/2009 12:01:25
Why first class? Why not a book in advance like the rest of us?
2

alfonsa pedrosa,

embra 03/07/2009 12:04:32
If they were first class ministers,yes,but they aint so its the guards van for them.
3

TankEngine,

Uphall 03/07/2009 12:09:34
Why do politicians think they are so special and need to travel First Class? There should be a law that states they should travel in the cheapest class as possible!
4

steve 1511,

aberdeen 03/07/2009 12:10:00
george foulkes this gibbering eejit is one of the most prolific expense claimer in britians political parties
5

fresian,

03/07/2009 12:10:13
Today opposition MSPs called on other ministers to follow his example.

So exactly how many Labour Ministers used public transport when they were in office??

6

DRZ400,

03/07/2009 12:36:18
With some of the claims you would think that they had purchased the train and not just took one journey.
These people have got ideas above themselves and forget they are paid for by us. Bet they dont all travel first class when they cant slip a claim in for it!
7

married to a teacher,

Edinburgh 03/07/2009 12:54:31
God forbid the transport minister should have to experience how travel is for the majority of the populas!
8

PaulB,

Edinburgh 03/07/2009 13:31:36
How utterly predictable that the tedious rentagob George Foulkes has to get his tuppenceworth in the News yet again - lets have a full rundown of M'lord's expenses both here and at Westminster - he must be raking it in. Still, a man's a man for a' that......
9

Eve,

Scotland 03/07/2009 14:20:45
#1 Mallory: You book trains in advance?
Was unware most people booket their tickets in advance.

I've never booked a train seat/ticket in advance.

I always get the same day return if it's after 9:30am and your no coming back between 3:00pm & 6:00pm or it's the weekend, then it's cheaper.
10

Marian,

03/07/2009 15:08:43
Quote from Ian Dale's blog on 12 May 2009:-

"Following the noble Lord Foulkes's fulminations earlier about expenses and salaries, I was very grateful to the reader who sent in the following factual information about his own remuneration.

House of Lords: claimed £54,441 in allowances for 94 days attendance (£579/day)

Earns £36,000 as a Parliamentary Consultant to Eversheds LLP for 36 days work (£1000/day)

Claimed £3061.17 in allowances from the Scottish Parliament between April 2008 and March 2009

Salary for a Member of the Scottish Parliament £56,671.

So he trousers £110,000 in salary from the taxpayer, more than a government minister. And what's more I am sure that Mr Speaker surely can't approve of his almost hourly visits to the Sky News studios giving his views to the media rather than Parliament.... "

He has also been accused by the Scottish Government of wasting public and government time money by asking a large number of parliamentary questions, including how much money the Scottish Government has spent on spacehoppers, and how many times Scottish ministers have met with Scottish musician Sandi Thom. These questions reportedly cost the Government nearly £100,000 to answer.

Foulkes is often described by the media as "ultra loyal" to the Labour Party and he attacked media presenters, saying they were all paid "to come on TV and sneer at democracy and undermine democracy, the vast majority of MPs are being undermined by you" during the 2009 expenses controversy.

He appears to be yet another New Labour politician who has no scruples or morals and has lost touch with reality.
11

Liz,

Edinburgh 03/07/2009 15:09:47
#9
You need to get yourself onto one of the train companies websites. If you know when you are going to travel you may find some bargain tickets - even their cheap day returns can be beaten if you can book well enough in advance.

12

Eve,

Scotland 03/07/2009 15:38:51
#11 Liz: NOT lucky enough to live near a Train Station and have to relay on buses to get me near the station so impossible to know the time for train.

Normally there earlier than planned to, so I frequently get the 15min earlier one than I planned to, most times. You cannae do that if you've booked a time.

Though it's something to bare in mind if I move somewhere that is nearer a train stations. I suppose even a 15min bus ride away would make the time easier to judge.
13

Eve,

Scotland 03/07/2009 15:40:32
Sorry I met to say "thank you" at the end of post #12.

Thanks Liz. sorry I forgot.
14

Andrew,

03/07/2009 17:42:37
For "First Class" read "Business Class" on Scotrail! Unfortunately this usually means an extension of the office for most 'business users' who "occupy" a whole table for 4, constantly using their mobile phones and/or "clicketty-clacketting" (railway pun intended) on their laptops, being both vocally AND VISUALLY disruptive/intrusive AND DOWNRIGHT ANNOYING at times to other 'first class'(eg bona-fide FULL FARE and/or senior and or disabled)passengers - NOT ON EXPENSE ACCOUNTS!!
It's not the "FIRST" time that I've asked such an inconsiderate person to 'tone it down' and respect the
rights of his/her fellow passengers!
15

Andrew,

03/07/2009 17:52:08
PS 7
"Maried to a teecher"
Get him/hur to get U 2 spel propurlee :-
"POPULACE"!!
16

BROONISDOOMED,

PITS OF HELL 03/07/2009 19:20:51
#10 heres another of the lord and his merry ways
Consider Alex Massie’s latest snippet in The Spectator and see if it reminds you of a huge fat fcuker, who lies constantly, is a total pain in the ar-se and who costs the British taxpayer hundreds of thousands of pounds each year:

*Made, if mermory serves, in Eamonn Doran’s nightclub in Dublin, circa 1996. This was an evening that culminated with the discovery of George Foulkes slumped unconscious in the cloakroom. In fact, the noble lord (as he is now) had made a kind of nest for himself, using punters’ jackets to cushion his comfortably-sized frame and, once awoken, needed a pair of helpers to guide him back to his hotel. Mr Foulkes had been addressing the Dubin University Soccer Appreciation Society and refreshments had been served. Before retiring to the cloakroom he had been in fine voice, belting out the Hearts song while lurching across the dance floor to the bemusement and, it must be said, amusement of all present. Unlike some of the society’s guests, however, Mr Foulkes did not sleep with any of the members.

There is no truth in the rumour that he had a homosexual relationship with the soon to be former Speaker of the House and that was why he was popping up and down on every TV channel in the country the other week.
17

Sgian Achlais,

03/07/2009 19:49:32
13Eve, Scotland 03/07/2009 15:40:32
Sorry I met to say "thank you" at the end of post #12.

Thanks Liz. sorry I forgot.

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Most of the train company websites use the system web "Engine" to provide booking service so it does not really matter which one you use are your entry point. The secret to success is spending a good few minutes checking different days and times. I have not checked the prices in last few months since the change of tickets and cannot comment on how it operates now.

My partner often travels first class from Inverness to Newcastle by booking two single tickets 4 weeks in advance at a cost of £13 south and £23 north.

If you wait until the week before then the cost is £89 return standard.

If you can be flexible on your days of travel and miss out Friday, Weekend and Monday mornings the cost is dramatically reduced.
18

Sgian Achlais,

03/07/2009 20:00:31
Why does this paper constantly print statements from Lord Haw Haw. He is probably the most disgraced member of the Labour party in Scotland and that is a hard competition to win against some exceptionally gifted numpties.

Fair enough the occasional rambling of the deranged expenses fiddler but surely not multiple times per day.

I am astonished that Scottish Nationalism make the Unionists CRINGE but they lap up the ramblings nonsense of Lord Haw Haw as if the messiah himself had spoken.

Then again I never understood Brit Nat Unionists in the first place.

Seems just a different way of stating you are a weak and pathetic subservient uncle Tam waiting for the Master to tell them what they can and cannot do.

Maybe some people have no personal nor national pride.
19

Ian down under,

Musselburgh 03/07/2009 22:22:31
Please get it right politicians do not WORK. They go to meetings, junkets and receptions. Not by any stretch of the imagination could this be called work.
People making things, selling things, repairing things, repairing people, designing things all work. MPs and MSPs 'decide' for us and someone else does the work.
#14 This reminds me of a train journey between Crewe and London about 20 years ago, just as cell phones were coming in big time and were the size of a brick. I was travelling with a workmate to a London and we did the honest thing and ate breakfast and rad the paper and had a snooze. The bloke opposite jabbered away in his cellphone to his 'secretary' and coleagues and even dictated a letter over his phone. When he got up to go to the toilet my mate said 'He's not speaking to anybody, it's all for show'. I was amazed how he knew that until he pointed to his watch which clearly showed 5.45 am. As he said who is in the office taking calls at that time in the morning?

 

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