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Sporting politics: 'Scots athletes have the best of both worlds'



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Published Date: 27 August 2008
SINCE Hitler snubbed Jesse Owens in 1936, American sprinters raised gloved Black Power fists in 1968, and the tit-for-tat boycotts in 1980 and 1984, politics and the Olympic games have been intertwined.
Even as far back as 1920, the decision to host the games in Antwerp was not unrelated to the fact that the city was the German headquarters in occupied Belgium throughout the First World War.

The athletes in the main just say that politics doesn'
t matter and they just want to compete, except that as Chris Hoy has discovered, with symbols of national pride, politics and politicians will never be far away.

And so at this febrile time in Scottish politics it was inevitable that the triumph of a Scottish competitor was bound to assume a wider significance. Chris Hoy's declaration that he was proud to have represented Britain and that the notion of a separate Scottish team at this time was "ridiculous" has sparked a predictable row, as has Gordon Brown's desire to see Great Britain represented at football in the 2012 London games.

The answer to the latter question is relatively easy to solve; don't have football at the Olympics. The Beautiful Game has a jamboree every two years with the World and European nations cups and the vast majority of the world's best players don't play at the Olympics anyway because the competition is restricted to under 23s. In any case the petulant behaviour of players and managers displayed week in week out in the not-so beautiful game hardly fits in with Olympic ideals.

(And while they're at it the IOC could dump tennis which also has its own showpieces – there's no clamour for golf to be included, after all.)

As for a separate Scottish team, the answer is also straightforward – if Scotland isn't an independent nation there's no need for an independent team. If nothing else, athletes are competitive people; the accolade of representing Great Britain at the Olympic Games is the pinnacle of their careers and the ability to train alongside the best sports people in the UK brings out the best in them.

In the world of rugby union, the top players proudly pull on the Scottish jersey every season yet are no less proud if they pull on a Lions shirt every four years. And for that matter, so too are players from the Republic of Ireland. So while Scottish Athletes get to represent Scotland every four years at the Commonwealth games and Great Britain at the Olympics they seem to have the best of both worlds.

Claims that more Scottish athletes would reach the top if only they had their own world class facilities cannot be proved, not if Rangers and Celtic are anything to go by. And can anyone point to a Scot who would have done better in Beijing under the Saltire?





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  • Last Updated: 27 August 2008 8:40 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: 2008 Olympics
 
1

JoeMiddleton,

Edinburgh 27/08/2008 13:11:13
As someone put it in the Scotsman letters page today today this attitude is an example of the KSI campaign. 'Keep Scotland Invisible'.

"Claims that more Scottish athletes would reach the top if only they had their own world class facilities cannot be proved..."

Yet that was Chris Hoy's original point. Investment leads to results.

"can anyone point to a Scot who would have done better in Beijing under the Saltire?"

We'll never know because a lot of our athletes who will compete at the next Commonwealth games weren't there! They were sitting at home watching Hoy on the TV.

When independence comes we will get our own team anyway but we could possibly have had it before then if our parliamentarians were all to put Scotland's interest first. The fact they can't even on an issue like this indicates why they are currently so unpopular with their fellow Scots. Labour lord George Foulkes doesn't even want to see a Saltire on the trains!

Even the EEN runs away from a British football team (because you know it's deeply unpopular) yet if you support a Scottish team at football you should logically support a Scottish team at athletics as well. Brown is wrong but at least he's consistent. He put's Britain before Scotland's interests, you do to but like to pretend you don't.
2

Tynietiger,

27/08/2008 13:47:32
Agree with Joe.
Only someone who has an inferiority complex as a result of 50 years of Labour's dead hand dependency culture could have written this editorial.

New Zealand with population of 3 milion had over 200 athletes competing at the highest level at Olympics.
Scotland had 26.

Obviously much more can be done with Sports facilities but we are still paying the price of 20 years of neglect by successive governments and the non competitive schools culture not say to the teachers strikes in 80s which prevented teachers from taking schools teams after hours.

Does the EEN not realise that the lack of world class talent is a result of the existing UK athletics and London centric political ystem.

3

Mikey,

27/08/2008 13:50:11
Let's have investment in sport in Scotland. The money will come from Westminster as they seem to have no problem in funding 'centres of excellence' in England. Or maybe this is not part of the 'union dividend?'
4

Jwil,

27/08/2008 14:00:35
How long will it take for the English to start complaining that the Scots are not providing their own sporting facilites whilst taking up places at the English ones?
5

Linda,

Edinburgh 27/08/2008 14:02:31
Tynietiger is right.
Which is better for Scottish sport 200 athletes as part of Scotland team or 26 as part of Team GB?
6

Linda,

Edinburgh 27/08/2008 14:04:37
Also meant to add it was good to see Queen of the South supporters flying the Saltire on TV last night .. at least they know which country their team represents unlike majority of Rangers and Celtic fans.
7

Talorthane,

27/08/2008 14:22:45
Oh, I bet there are a good few people cringing at the Scotsman today.

Over the last few days, the Scotsman has placed iteself at the fore of the discussion around how Chris Hoy has rejected Scottish representation at the Olympics in favour of representing Great Britain.

Now, today, Chris Hoy makes clear his unhappiness at being misrepresented by the press over this issue. (One can only imagine, living in Edinburgh, that it is the Scotsman that he has in mind.)

http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/topstories/-Chris-Hoy39s-girlfriend-Sarra.4429986.jp

In today's Scotsman of all places, buried to an extent, after a story on Hoy's girlfriend, is the headline:

"Hoy says he'd love to race for Scotland"

It goes on to say:

"OLYMPIC hero Chris Hoy today insisted he would love to race for Scotland and hear a Scottish national anthem as he stepped onto the Olympic podium."

and

"The cyclist, who scooped three gold medals at the Beijing games, said his much-quoted comment that the idea of a Scottish Olympic team was "ridiculous" had been misunderstood."

and

"The 32-year-old, who will take part in a victory parade down the Royal Mile today, said his only concern had been about the lack of facilities available to Olympic athletes in Scotland."

The cycling star, himself, says:

"I've never been more proud then when I represented Scotland at the Commonwealth Games and heard Scotland the Brave on the podium – it was one of the highlights of my career."

"If there ever was a Scottish Olympic team, obviously I'd be incredibly proud to represent Scotland, but my point is that at the moment there are no facilities for track cycling that you can train on 12 months of the year, so where would we train? It wouldn't be possible."

"But, if it ever was, of course I'd love to represent Scotland at the Olympic Games."


Perhaps there are a number of lessons here for the Scotsman.

Don't mislead or misrepresent.

If you do, you might force someone to
8

Talorthane,

27/08/2008 14:23:42
take the opposite position from what you suggested.

If they do, you look like idiots.

But at least that's where the misrepresentation would end.
9

Linda,

Edinburgh 27/08/2008 14:38:10
Scotsman editor and headline writers have a Unionist agenda to diminish Scottish government and SNP at every oppotunity
10

Argyll on line,

Inveraray 28/08/2008 08:31:09
Let's not forget the lying story in The Hootsman last Friday. Here it is;


Chris Hoy pours scorn on Alex Salmond's plan for separate Scottish Olympic team
Alex Salmond was humiliated on Monday when Scotland's greatest ever Olympian poured scorn on his proposals to break up Team GB

 

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