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Rat-runners leave bus passengers stranded



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Published Date: 14 July 2008
BUS users have hit out at a series of road closures brought in to prevent 'rat-running' around a revamp at one of the city's busiest roundabouts.
A £1.7 million project to replace the roundabout which links Seafield Road, Portobello Road and King's Road with traffic lights got under way last month.

Council chiefs have closed off 22 roads on the approaches to the roundabout in a bid to preve
nt drivers rat-running.

But this has left residents in Craigentinny Road and Wakefield Avenue facing a 500-metre walk to the nearest bus stops on Craigentinny Avenue or Portobello Road.

Residents today said this had left many elderly people struggling to get to the bus stops and called for the roads to be reopened for buses only.

Council chiefs said they had closed so many roads following the experiences of roadworks at Milton Link last year when there was serious problems.

Julia McEwan, 49, a checkout assistant, who lives on Craigentinny Road, said: "It just seems so over the top to close off our road just in case a few drivers try and take a shortcut.

"My family and a lot of people around here rely on public transport and although we're all fairly mobile, there are plenty of people who live here who are not and are having to go quite a distance to the other bus stops.

"I don't see why they can not have kept the road open for buses but banned other traffic.

"We are endlessly encouraged to take public transport and my family spend in excess of £120 pounds per month on Ridacards so I don't see why the service should be interrupted for the sake of a few drivers."

The work at Seafield is expected to last until November and will see the roundabout turned into a junction with new traffic lights and bus lanes.

Councillor Ewan Aitken, Labour councillor for Craigentinny, said he had been contacted by a number of residents, including many elderly people, who were upset about the road closures.

He said: "In attempting to stop rat-running, the administration solution has been driven by the bad choices a few drivers take instead of beginning with the principle of what would be best for all residents.

"Who is in charge here? Those who use the bus are denied that choice because the few who abuse the option of using a car run the show. This is unfair and unjust but it is not too late too change the decision and I hope that the administration change their minds."

A council spokeswoman said: "Rat-running became a problem for residents living close to the Milton Link roadworks last year, raising concerns about safety due to a large increase in traffic volume in their streets.

"This was despite the use of advisory signs, so it was decided to temporarily close non-residential access to certain streets close to the King's Road roundabout during the work. This was done in close consultation between the council, the police and bus operators.

"We are aware that some bus users are faced with a slightly longer walk to stops because of this, but the overall feedback from residents is that they support these traffic calming methods."





The full article contains 546 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 14 July 2008 11:38 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Transport
 
1

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 14/07/2008 12:09:34
"A £1.7 million project to replace the roundabout which links Seafield Road, Portobello Road and King's Road with traffic lights got under way last month"

What a criminal waste of money. there is nothing wrong with this roundabout. Putting stupid traffic lights there will only cause congestion.
2

Grumpy,

14/07/2008 12:15:36
The restrictions on streets like Vandeleur, Kekewich and Nantwich etc are very worthwhile given that they have never been major bus routes. But Wakefield Avenue has been a bus route since I was a lad getting the No 42 bus to Portobello Pool. The idea of a bus gate is sensible - it has worked for many years at Peffermill Road / Prestonfield.

But the barriers on Portobello Road have not deterred the dedicated rat runners - they (1 black cab, 2 vans, 3 cars and 1 car with a funny yellow & blue pattern down the side with a 6 letter work beginning with "P" emblazoned on the back) just move the barricades or drive round them and move on!
3

Voice of reason,

EDINBURGH 14/07/2008 12:20:04
1 - it is an accident blackspot, caused by poor visibility . It was trumpeted as wonderful by Mr Begg years ago if I recall correctly .
4

SDRAWKCAB,

Edinburgh 14/07/2008 12:21:42
Why do they want to prevent rat running? all they are doing is creating more congestion! The road planners in this city should be lined up and shot!

There are 3 ways in which i can travel to work and i was amazed to find roadworks on all 3 at the same time!
if there was an award for creating congestion, this city would win it hands down!

EFFING COUNCIL!
5

raythebear,

bonnyrigg 14/07/2008 12:26:57
#2 you obviously dont live at peffermill, the bus gate there is abused regularly. if wakefield is opened then hundreds of cars will have a nice little alternative and cause problems while waiting to turn right
6

It's heading straight for us!,

Edinburgh 14/07/2008 12:34:35
so why not open up wakefield ave and put a no right turn up? turning right into wakefield ave wont be a problem with a box junction on it as the traffic backs up enough to allow cars to turn into it. any cars coming out of wakefield ave then have to go round the roundabout to turn right

simple solution
7

Brian the Barbarian.,

portobello 14/07/2008 12:45:40
So who is the anonymous council knob head that claims the majority of residents are in favour of this stupid, pointless excercise in buggering people about ?
8

Pond Hall,

14/07/2008 13:05:51
Cycle/Bus down this way, the temp lights at Craigetinny are causing more congestion than the actual roadworks.

Amazingly, NOT, traffic Flows Better when the lights are switched off !

No6, result of No right Turn, even more congestion on the roundabout which is down to 1 lane.

At least at these roadworks you can acutally see men working.

And Just think in ten years time, we'll go full circle again and Build Roundabouts again!
9

Mallory,

Edinburgh 14/07/2008 13:06:07
Which overpaid muppet came up with this genius plan?
He/she/it should be shown the door - and rapidly
10

Urban Guerrilla,

Edinburgh 14/07/2008 13:15:49
Why the term "rat run"? Don't we all have an equal right to use the public roads?
11

Xena - Warrior Princess,

14/07/2008 13:22:38
#10 I agree, what are we paying road tax for?
12

Scallywag,

Edinburgh 14/07/2008 13:37:02
Vehicle Excise Duty (VED) is a British excise duty, which has to be paid to acquire a vehicle licence for most types of motor vehicle. A vehicle licence is usually required if a vehicle is to be legally used on the public roads. The tax, rarely if ever known by its formal title, and most commonly known as the road tax, is not hypothecated for spending on roads, the entire proceeds contributing to central government revenues. Before 1936, and still used to this day in informal everyday use, the licence was known as the road fund licence, and the proceeds went into the Government's road fund, and used entirely for road expenditure. The tax is collected and enforced by the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA). Proof of payment comes in the form of a paper disk that must be clearly displayed on the vehicle, and gives rise to the third interchangeable common term used for the tax, tax disc.
13

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 14/07/2008 14:05:43
#3:

It ia not an "accident blackspot". It is just a normal roundabout. Granted that you have to think about what you are doing and exercise some skill and judgement. If you can't do that, you shouldn't be on the road in the first place.

There is far too much of dumbing things down and creating congestion in order to accomodate the few who don't bother thinking. The £1.7 million would be better spent on a multi-storey car park in town.
14

I love to eat Sellotape,

14/07/2008 14:07:10
A butter churn is a mechanical device used to agitate milk cream until it becomes butter. Churning the cream brings its fat globules together and causes them to clump into lumps of butter, leaving a liquid called butter milk. The physical phenomenon which occurs is called phase inversion - the inner phase and outer phase of an emulsion exchange places: oil in water emulsion (cream) becomes water in oil emulsion (butter).

Many configurations of churns were used throughout history. The end-over-end churn stands about 4 feet high and swings on a central axle. The "barrel churn" was similar but rolled on its long axis. The plunger-type is harder work than the end-over-end or barrel churn. A plunger or dasher has to be moved vigorously up and down by hand.
15

Hibernia,

14/07/2008 14:32:46
#14 what a wonderful insight into the world of butter churns. What it has to do with ratruns Im not quite sure, but a worthwhile read all the same.
16

geekpie,

14/07/2008 14:53:25
"Those who use the bus are denied that choice because the few who abuse the option of using a car run the show"

Well put. It happens all too often in selfish Britain.

Make it buses only and let's have proper fines for drivers who break rules like this. 50 quid really doesn't cut it any more.
17

raythebear,

edinburgh 14/07/2008 15:03:23
#6 a no right turn sign??? and who's going to enforce that??
18

Statsman,

Edinburgh 14/07/2008 15:12:07
Why can't the elected councillors sack the completely incompetent unelected officials? Incompetence on this scale would not be tolerated in the private sector so why should the council be any different?

The councillors need to have a purge and restore our faith in their ability to manage Edinburgh. Just now the elected councillors are largely ceremonial figureheads that have little or no effect on the running of the council. That needs to stop.
19

john z,

edinburgh 14/07/2008 15:26:42
Seen a documentary once, wehre a town planner bod explained that at many roundabouts if you replace them with traffic lights, it actually adds substantially to delays and congestion, due to the slight time gap between red and green on each sequence.

Indeed in Edinburgh, London and other cities in the UK, it is well known that by only very slightly altering the traffic light timings, you can really screw up the traffic. This is exactly what red ken did in London prior to introducing the congestion charge - a deliberate policy, which Boris Johnson (for all his faults) intends to reverse.

So in terms of causing congestion, these new lights will do what was intended - cause more congestion.

Edinburgh council have a patholigical hatred of cars, you see
20

raythebear,

bonnyrigg 14/07/2008 15:27:53
#18 you are forgetting that the incompetent unelected officials are only carrying out the policies of the elected councillors
21

john z,

edinburgh 14/07/2008 15:32:17
Number 16

Even better let's really improve things, and go back to using Donkeys and third world rickshaws - no pollution at all. Let's make it illegal for anyone to own a house, and make all property 'communal', again to save on pollution.

Let's ban outdoor lights, holidays abroad, and let's get everybody to wear exactly the same clothing, again to save on waste, and helping to prevent 'climate catastrophe'.

Those who disagree should be named and shamed as 'enemies of the state', taken away in the dead of night never to be seen again.

Communism anyone??
22

Statsman,

Edinburgh 14/07/2008 15:44:19
20 raythebear

It really doesn't work like that. It should but it doesn't.

An election has come and gone. The elected councillors in control changed. Can you tell the difference? A rubber stamp costs a lot less than the financial burden of the pretence of democracy in this city.
23

Colinmac,

14/07/2008 16:39:49
Why do petty officials insist on using the pejorative term 'rat run' when they mean an alternatve route which takes the pressure off major roads ? We all know they love congestion because they can use that to justify unwanted social engineering experiments designed to turn us all into bloody cyclists. So they create congestion wherever they can and this is a fine example.

Motorists pay a lot of money (and are about to pay an awful lot more) to use the roads and I, for one, object violently to planning officials and other sundry busybodies lecturing me on which roads I should or should not use !

Get back to your Playstations you numpties !
24

gordon aka smoker and proud,

edinburgh 14/07/2008 16:44:47
#14 sellotape?
ok got that easy enough, but how does that make cheese?
25

Don't believe the hype.,

Embra 14/07/2008 16:49:07
The toonz feked...... Face it.
26

James (1),

14/07/2008 16:51:58
We must block off these rat runs. A small child aged 3 years who is out with their grandfather walking along the road on a sunny day eating an ice cream and saying " I love you grandad!" will be crushed to death. Why? Because cars are allowed to drive on a......wait for it.... ROAD!
If work is being done on a main road you can guess how many children will be massacred. It must be thousands. It stands to reason. Just ask any bus user.
27

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14/07/2008 16:51:59
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28

mystic,

Edinburgh 14/07/2008 16:58:01
Please people... vote these incompetent b*stards out next time when you have the chance!
29

Euan,

Edinburgh 14/07/2008 17:18:06
Why shouldn't drivers be allowed to use 'rat-runs'?

If a drivers local knowledge enables he or she to negotiate their way conveniently around congested areas then it should be welcomed.

All these road closures are doing is creating more congestion, and clearly inconveniencing many people who wish to use the buses.

Yet more Bonkers Britain nonsense...



30

The Sheriff,

14/07/2008 17:37:57
Ah the in phrase...."rat run"

As has been mentioned by other posters,the roads are public highways and if you have a legal motor vehicle,road tax,insurance,mot(if required)etc,etc then you should by law have the right to use that vehicle on a public highway....of course when it suits the balloons in the cooncil to prevent you from using said highway it becomes a "rat run".

The city of Ednburgh is slowly dying because the muppets in charge are decreasing the available road space on a weekly basis.

When this super dooper project is complete will the council make these road closures permanent and if not why not....after all you never know when thousands of mechancial rats will want to use them...

FUDS>
31

Goat Boy,

14/07/2008 18:07:39
Don't worry - the £547m tram project will save us all and tackle the traffic problem in the east of the city! Money well spent!

Oops, silly me.
It doesn't go anywhere here.

32

taxihell,

leith 14/07/2008 20:32:58
I personally think edinburgh should just close to traffic this summer the amount of roadworks in the whole city is unbeliveble what ever way you go to avoid them you just drive into another set of roadworks with temporary lights that cause misery.

And i would like to meet the tube who had the good idea of putting the tempory lights on portobello rd/moira terrace they caused more traffic when you had already been at the roadworks now they are off thank god but they are still there wonder whos paying for the hire of them sitting doing nothing the taxpayer i think.
33

Drat,

Edinburgh 14/07/2008 21:23:58
Different location,same traffic balls-up. Ferry Road roadworks and where do they narrow the road? At the bus stop, conveniently stopping any traffic from moving when passengers want off and on the bus. D****heads.
34

MacHibee,

15/07/2008 10:29:54
When does driving down a road built for vehicles become rat running?
35

MacHibee,

15/07/2008 10:30:44
I love minor law breaking like rat running. It makes me feel alive inside my black heart!
36

Joe,

Livingston 15/07/2008 15:51:59
Oh dear.. Seafield Road was originally planned to go under the roundabout to join-up with the Harry Lauder/Baileyfield Road. What a boon it would be today
when joned up to the newish Portobello bypass. It seems the then objections by a Portobello Cllr - fearful of passing trade deserting Joppa Road - managed to quash the futuristic road scheme.
37

bumpkin,

15/07/2008 20:57:40
these numpties love spending your council tax on useless schemes.
i dont bother driving into edinburgh any more, i just use the local shops . you cant park, you cant drive, so whats the point?
Park and ride is ok if you dont intend to buy much.
38

Pond Hall,

16/07/2008 18:19:55
and amazingly the traffic lights at Craigentinny had been switched off early tonight, no jams.

Good point no36

They could have done the same at Milton road, remember the old asda petrol station was on the North side of milton road.

But common sense never comes into it with The Old Edinburgh Council!!

Best thing is to bike it quicker and cheaper than the car and bus !

39

rs,

.on the road 18/07/2008 21:07:24
No26 - James

even more amazing,

Question : What are Footpaths for ?

(Hint, the answers in the name)

a) Walking on
or
b) a convenient place to park your car and hinder pedestrians!

 

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